Sunday Blue Law

[shorthairsrus]

Stores would make more money closed. I think the whole day should be closed.

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Take a kid fishing. We wonder why society is the way it is one big rat race

 

[dean nelson]

claim? ha ha ha

who gets 911’d... and then just a short time later allows Obama and company to bring a hornets nest of them into MN and ND?

fat lazy passive people, that’s who

Obama brought them in now did he! Yeah I don't fucking think so is was the good little bible thumpers you seem to want us to be like who brought them here. So you can take the Lutheran Social Services and tell us how loss of religion is causing this well simultaneously completely ignoring the fact that it's religions people that brought these troublemakers here in the first place!

 

[Sum1]

We are all f’d the way it is. Anyone see the Joe Rogan/Alex Jones podcast from this week? Our government is all smoke and mirrors. We know nothing of what is going on behind closed doors and what is happening on a global scale. We know only what they want us to know which is very little. I used to think Alex Jones was a kook until Elon Musk has pretty much said the exact same thing. The right and left are in kahoots, Trump is a bump in the road for them. Whether you believe it or not the world is run by evil. And before they were trying to keep it behind closed doors and we’re slowly opening those doors, that’s changing though those doors are being swung open at a much faster pace. They’re not even trying to hide it any longer. If you want to get freaked out look into the CERN collider in Switzerland. There is some crazy sh#t happening in the world right now. Not sure what any of this has to do with blue laws. Lol

 

[Kurtr]

Stores would make more money closed. I think the whole day should be closed.

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Take a kid fishing. We wonder why society is the way it is one big rat race

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That is an actual good reason and explanation to have the stores closed. Because a old book says so is not

 

[PrairieGhost]

Dean it isn't all churches. It's the ultra liberal churches, and Obama. Look at the churches with women pastors, churches that accept gay pastors, churches that have turned their back on the Bible. I belonged to The ELCA for 38 years, but today they are more of a cult than a church. They push hard for immigration, legal or illegal. It's very different from one church to another.

 

[Kurtr]

It’s all churches they want to make a buck... money worshipers where have I heard that before

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-program-resettle-refugees-40-percent-muslim/

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A big problem is churches are non profits they need to be taxed

 

[guywhofishes]

Obama brought them in now did he! Yeah I don't fucking think so is was the good little bible thumpers you seem to want us to be like who brought them here. So you can take the Lutheran Social Services and tell us how loss of religion is causing this well simultaneously completely ignoring the fact that it's religions people that brought these troublemakers here in the first place!

wake the hell up

you think the words Lutheran and Catholic in their names makes them represent the faithful or what’s best for our country/community?

look at PG’s and kurtr’s posts

you think LSS brought them in? you goofball, they just profited from it, the feds make the decisions and LSS et al simply do their bidding

 

[Fly Carpin]

We are all f’d the way it is. Anyone see the Joe Rogan/Alex Jones podcast from this week? Our government is all smoke and mirrors. We know nothing of what is going on behind closed doors and what is happening on a global scale. We know only what they want us to know which is very little. I used to think Alex Jones was a kook until Elon Musk has pretty much said the exact same thing. The right and left are in kahoots, Trump is a bump in the road for them. Whether you believe it or not the world is run by evil. And before they were trying to keep it behind closed doors and we’re slowly opening those doors, that’s changing though those doors are being swung open at a much faster pace. They’re not even trying to hide it any longer. If you want to get freaked out look into the CERN collider in Switzerland. There is some crazy sh#t happening in the world right now. Not sure what any of this has to do with blue laws. Lol

Absolutely right. Alex Jones is a kook. And Joe Rogan has never not believed a conspiracy theory. Give me 20 minutes and I could convince that dumdum he’s the ghost of his Great Aunt Ethel

 

[ORCUS DEMENS]

I try to stay away from discussions about which reigion is right. You do realize stores are already open on the Christian day of Sabbath. Saturday is the original day of the Christian Sabbath.

 

[KDM]

If you guys want to give up these "blue laws" based on NOT wanting religion involved in anything had better throw out Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, and all the other (religious holy days) ie Holidays and everything that goes with them. The time off, the bonuses, the programs, and everything else. If you don't, to claim a religious standing for blue laws is hypocritical! You can't cherry pick. If you want to throw out religion from govt, then throw it ALL out.

 

[Kurtr]

Seems you forgot hunting and any other activities that don’t involve sitting around the fire place reading the bible

 

[Obi-Wan]

If you guys want to give up these "blue laws" based on NOT wanting religion involved in anything had better throw out Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, and all the other (religious holy days) ie Holidays and everything that goes with them. The time off, the bonuses, the programs, and everything else. If you don't, to claim a religious standing for blue laws is hypocritical! You can't cherry pick. If you want to throw out religion from govt, then throw it ALL out.

This will never happen because the same ones that want the stores open Sundays will not be willing to give up their PAID holidays as a trade off.

 

[KDM]

This will never happen because the same ones that want the stores open Sundays will not be willing to give up their PAID holidays as a trade off.

EXACTLY!!! However, there can't be a trade off if using religious exclusion from govt. as a basis for your position. Either you want religion out of govt. or you don't. Someone can't proclaim they want religion out of govt. and yet want these religious holy days (holidays) to be observed. To do so is being hypocritical.

 

[shorthairsrus]

supply us cheap labor is 100% immigration --- and our govt, churches and business are all in it together as one big force. Democrats a labor party - ha biggest joke ever.

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I just seen the last 18 years of both my kids ---- my job took 5 months away. But with that said the schools activities (not learning portion), weekend-night jobs, sports, church activities took away a good majority of the time. Rarely were we able to sit down at the table and have a meal together once they were 7th grade. I realize that all of this is self inflicted --- but the mentality is to squeeze another activity in a slot. End result its all a blur -- Now that they are college age - i never see em. Yes they still come back and hunt and fish - but the time is so limited. We are wondering why less kids are interested the outdoors. Go figure.

Is it really worth changing a blue law rule --- to what open it up so Johnny's dad can go get a gun for little johhny on a sunday; while little johnny works his part time sunday job. Little Johnny barely gets to use the gun because he is working when his dad is off on a sunday. Net result johnny's dad had time off when he was little and its Johnny's dads dream that never gets filled because he wanted the freedom to buy something on a sunday.

 

[KDM]

It's actually quite simple to explain blue laws without using religion at all. Blue laws are commercial statutes created by the state to favor 501c3 corporations ie. churches for revenue generation purposes. The actual purpose for these state statutes (blue laws) is to prevent competition from other corporations (businesses) on a specific day to favor churches. If churches can get other businesses closed on sundays by getting blue laws in place, the churches and only the churches, will be open to collect revenue, ie offerings. It's simple corporate maneuvering to maximize profits by minimizing competition. Nothing more, nothing less. Each church, (501c3 corporation) is created by the state under state statutes. Each church applying for non profit status must obey these statutes before they get 501c3 status. As such, each church is regulated by the state under state statutes and evaluated periodically for legitimacy by state statutes. Each and every church must comply with all state corporate statute requirements to maintain their "Church" ie non profit designation. Which begs the question: How is it possible to separate churches (501c3 corporations) from the states that created, regulates, and legitimizes them??

 

[shorthairsrus]

My church majority of the collections are direct deposits --- they actually technically collect the funds during the week out of ones bank account and the amount is based on a annual pledge; just like any club or dues. I think the luterans do the same thing.

 

[KDM]

My church majority of the collections are direct deposits --- they actually technically collect the funds during the week out of ones bank account and the amount is based on a annual pledge; just like any club or dues. I think the luterans do the same thing.

Yep. Which sounds, looks, and behaves just like any other corporation. Doesn't it??

 

[PrairieGhost]

Corporation work towards a profit. We voluntarily give to church which is non profit. We have a benevolence fund that gives money to needy people. Taxing the church would be like taxing March of Dimes, The American Heart Association, or any other non profit. Gov has no right to tax what I give.

 

[Retired Educator]

Earlier I commented about Blue Laws and being married to a nurse who has worked a lot of Sundays' in our 40+ years of marriage. Her job has nothing to do with religion, nor does my belief that Sunday opening would sometimes be a convenience for me. Her working on Sundays has not prevented us from having a good family life. You determine how much time is spent with your family, not some business being closed on Sunday. Our kids were involved in a lot of school activities. We made it a point of eating supper together every night that they did not have a game or wrestling match. Sometimes being together as a family does not mean that all the family member are together. Everyone will occasionally have a conflict. Number 1 is quality time as opposed to quantity. Family time might be everybody at a game or match, or concert, or science fair. If every one takes an interest in what each member of the family is doing, that is quality time. A Blue Law has nothing to do with that.

Somehow we got off on a tangent in this conversation about immigration. For me it's a problem, just not a problem related to a Blue Law.

 

[Rut2much]

Leave it be, don't conform ND.