Surcharge on unvaccinated

[RPNLPS]

That's all bullshit. This is about forced compliance and that's it. There are many at risk behaviors that don't get singled out for higher premiums. Obesity is probably the greatest health risk to individuals. Are they charging people extra to be fat. Should everyone have to take random drug or alcohol tests to avoid higher insurance premiums? Healthy people always have to pay for the unhealthy and there is no guarantee the vaccine keeps you healthy. This whole covid pandemic has been one great big fucking lie and it's continuing today and for the most part people are just letting it continue.

Look at bob harper healthiest sob around on tv! had a heart attack! I’ve done every drug and drink under the sun and am perfectly healthy at 46 so they say! But I do have issues but really don’t care either way I’m going to die some day prove me to think otherwise!! You can do what you want but you will never play God!!! Just saying.
Point is- leave everyone alone we don’t care to have you tell us what to do or care to have you make us what you want to do. Because if you want that you won’t survive a week with me just saying!
Fish on

 

[shorthairsrus]

That's the issue with this clotjab is that it doesn't actually produce antibodies like a normal vaccine does, which is the reason why those who received the clot jab have a higher count of the the virus then those who never received the clot jab. Hence the reason why those who are unvaccinated who get the virus and spreading it to the vaccinated people who can become severely sick since their immune system is already compromised by the clotjab. No it does not work the way a normal vaccine works by producing antibodies and that's the reason why it should not be called a vaccine but a gene therapy and its the reason why people will need to take the clot jab again as a booster. I very much feel bad for those who felt like they had no other option when in reality there was other options that those who were in charge felt were not in the best interest of making billions of dollars and help stealing an election from the greatest president ever.

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Lunker your so full of shit -- have you even closed to being exposed

Talk the talk but you dont walk the walk.


All these covid threads need to be put under politics - because that is all they are. Back and forth bullshit.

 

[Mr. Stevenson]

 

[49994]

Until they acknowledge the benefit of natural antibodies, I won’t believe anything said.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0210827-kbyqgjpsyvc5rfzq6k4tdfejga-story.html

this should be all over the media, plus a pretty good reason for any healthcare worker/anybody to not need a vaccine.
although there are some on here that have tried to tell us the vaccine will provide better immunity then natural immunity.

 

[SupressYourself]

ND Sportsman is correct, risky behavior leads to higher insurance premiums. While some only point to the low mortality rate of the virus, the long term effects require a lot of medical care. That costs insurance companies lots of money, which is paid for by company health plans and ultimately, people like you and me.

Just like all the mask bullshit, this sounds plausible on the surface, but completely falls apart once you apply any real logic to it.
Risky behavior? You mean like being fat, or the possibility of getting pregnant? Those two things alone cost employers and insurance companies billions each year.
I'm all for vax requirements... just as soon as we have weight / BMI requirements, and women of child bearing age start paying a surcharge.

That's all bullshit. This is about forced compliance and that's it. There are many at risk behaviors that don't get singled out for higher premiums. Obesity is probably the greatest health risk to individuals. Are they charging people extra to be fat. Should everyone have to take random drug or alcohol tests to avoid higher insurance premiums? Healthy people always have to pay for the unhealthy and there is no guarantee the vaccine keeps you healthy. This whole covid pandemic has been one great big fucking lie and it's continuing today and for the most part people are just letting it continue.

Nailed it.

 

[PrairieGhost]

That's true the healthy pay for the u healthy. If there was a surcharge for the past 50 years I sure would have a nice addition to my savings. I dont smoke, but the law suits against tobacco was a test run to see what they could force society into. This covid bs is the last test before forced socialism.
A little off topic, but still gov control: 28 million in private funds has been raised to rescue Christians from Aphganistan, but the Biden administration will not let them go in. Maybe Mexico has airlines that would like 28 million. The money keeps rolling in.

I think our last Christian hating Muslim and chief has his fingers in this whole thing.

 

[espringers]

i could hardly give two fucks about this discussion at this point. but, from the article lunker posted:

[FONT=&quot]Researchers also emphasized that a COVID survivor’s protective shield wanes over time and noted those who were previously ill and then later received a single shot of the Pfizer vaccine were better protected against reinfection than those who previously had the virus, but did not get the jab.[/FONT]

 

[agriffith]

I've elected to become vaccinated & that's my right. However, this is article shows power is getting way out of hand and it's complete crap.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...-until-she-gets-a-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AANU548

 

[Obi-Wan]

Just like all the mask bullshit, this sounds plausible on the surface, but completely falls apart once you apply any real logic to it.
Risky behavior? You mean like being fat, or the possibility of getting pregnant? Those two things alone cost employers and insurance companies billions each year.
I'm all for vax requirements... just as soon as we have weight / BMI requirements, and women of child bearing age start paying a surcharge.





Nailed it.

Don't forget about the surcharge for alcohol consumption = risky behavior or the surcharge for owning a firearm = risky behavior. This is just another rung in the liberal control agenda ladder.

 

[NDSportsman]

I've elected to become vaccinated & that's my right. However, this is article shows power is getting way out of hand and it's complete crap.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...-until-she-gets-a-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AANU548

That judge should be immediately removed from his duty.

 

[espringers]

That judge should be immediately removed from his duty.

i agree. but, something seems fishy with this story. albeit, there are probably plenty of incompetent judges in this world.

 

[eyexer]

I've elected to become vaccinated & that's my right. However, this is article shows power is getting way out of hand and it's complete crap.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...-until-she-gets-a-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AANU548

But we need legal cases like this to get to the Supreme Court so we can get this shit settled once and for all

 

[lunkerslayer]

lol espringers where did you get your information from the cdc unless you got the study from say an article from Israel for an example your point is a big meh:;:lame

 

[lunkerslayer]

I've elected to become vaccinated & that's my right. However, this is article shows power is getting way out of hand and it's complete crap.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...-until-she-gets-a-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AANU548

I won't get the jab because if my arm falls off because of blood clot or I get a whole bunch of mini clusters of strokes I can't sue anyone for malpractice.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...al-treat-covid-patient-ivermectin/5648583001/

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Peer pressure is a motherfucker isn't it

 

[Lou63]

I am not a doctor or researcher. I do have a brain and I am an avid reader.

I believe that the vaccinated pose a larger threat to society than the unvaccinated.

The vaccinated do get covid and usually do NOT show symptoms or have really mild symptoms. They do not get tested because they feel a little or or no symptoms to cause them to be tested therefore they are spreaders.

The unvaccinated usually do show symptoms and get tested then quarantined. After recovering studies I have seen are showing that one that has had covid has 6 to 8 times better immunity than a vaccinated person.

Also I have more reading/research to do but mother nature has a way of things both good and bad surviving.

My thoughts are that the so called vaccines do not provide full immunity and therefore the virus is able to survive and mutate in a kind of an end around the vaccine sort of like the antibiotic resistant bacteria have mutated by misuse of antibiotics.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I am not a doctor or researcher. I do have a brain and I am an avid reader.

I believe that the vaccinated pose a larger threat to society than the unvaccinated.

The vaccinated do get covid and usually do NOT show symptoms or have really mild symptoms. They do not get tested because they feel a little or or no symptoms to cause them to be tested therefore they are spreaders.

The unvaccinated usually do show symptoms and get tested then quarantined. After recovering studies I have seen are showing that one that has had covid has 6 to 8 times better immunity than a vaccinated person.

Also I have more reading/research to do but mother nature has a way of things both good and bad surviving.

My thoughts are that the so called vaccines do not provide full immunity and therefore the virus is able to survive and mutate in a kind of an end around the vaccine sort of like the antibiotic resistant bacteria have mutated by misuse of antibiotics.

You should read up on the leaky vaccine theory
Recovery rate is still above 99.9 percent for healthy people even if those who get the virus most recover with little side effects. That can't be said for those who get sick even if the are fully vaccinated



https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...ovid-hospitalizations-and-deaths-disappeared/


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html

 

[espringers]

lol espringers where did you get your information from the cdc unless you got the study from say an article from Israel for an example your point is a big meh:;:lame

My mistake. 49994 posted it. But, it was in fact a study from Isreal. Its starts from the premise that immunity from having covid is better. But,, having it plus the shot is betterer. U obviously didn't read it.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Dude I post so many articles you need to be a little more specific about which article, yes you are correct in your analogy about needing a booster shot, if you have taken the clot shot. So espringers,do you know what the clot shot does exactly to help you fight the wuhan flu virus? A hint it does not produce antibodies the way a normal vaccine works which is the reason why you need to get the booster to protects you from other variants of the wuhan strain.
It is quite amazing though how they were able to produce this gene therapy so fast and why it will have abnormal side effects to other wise healthy people for decades to come. All part of the great reset people have talked about for years. If you don't know what the clot shot actually does maybe Dr Allen can tell us what exactly it does to help lessen the severity of the wuhan virus in people with autoimmune deficiencies.

 

[Mr. Stevenson]

My mistake. 49994 posted it. But, it was in fact a study from Isreal. Its starts from the premise that immunity from having covid is better. But,, having it plus the shot is betterer. U obviously didn't read it.

SEE gODDAMNIT?!! (in general--not specific individual)

That's real information instead of Democom/Fuckchi bullshit which could convince the hesitant. Still much work to be done concerning preconditions and side effects. A relate of mine has lupus. He's taking HCL. In the early days of this garbage it was discovered lupus patients weren't being affected hence the dosing of HCL. He seems always on the verge of arthritis and his elderly parents are disabled by gout when they look at a tomato. He works in the Virginia "education" system and stressed about his future ability to provide household income.

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The fucktard also votes Democom and refuses to put 2+2 together at this time. I believe it's called "cognitive dissonance".

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I hope Trump's ego will allow for a rational stance about "HIS" vaccines.

 

[Mr. Stevenson]

https://youtu.be/g-72k7h8WYI