They just cant help themselves

[PrairieGhost]

Montana rancher gets 6 months in prison for creating hybrid sheep for captive hunting​

Julia Gomez and Jonathan Limehouse, USA TODAY
Tue, October 1, 2024 at 11:39 AM CDT
5 min read

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A Montana rancher has been sentenced to six months in prison after cloning a "near threatened" sheep from Asia and then selling its offspring to shooting preserves, according to court documents.
Arthur “Jack” Schubarth, 81, will spend six months in federal prison, with a three-year supervised release, and pay a $20,000 fine and a $4,000 community service payment for cloning the Marco Polo sheep from Kyrgyzstan.
Schubarth was sentenced Monday for committing two felonies, conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act and substantively violating the Lacey Act, according to the Justice Department. The Lacey Act is a law that bans the trafficking of illegally taken wildlife, fish and plants.

 

[Jiffy]

My question, as always with these people, is who the hell who pay to shoot something like that to begin with?

Wow.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

How did he think this would play out? If he is smart enough to clone an animal that apparently you can't transport alive into the states then what made him think that this would be ok. I will say that its interesting but there has to be a better way towards conservation than this. Yes I understand that the intent was to put them into high fence operations and not into the wild.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Montana rancher gets 6 months in prison for creating hybrid sheep for captive hunting​

Julia Gomez and Jonathan Limehouse, USA TODAY
Tue, October 1, 2024 at 11:39 AM CDT
5 min read

4.6k

A Montana rancher has been sentenced to six months in prison after cloning a "near threatened" sheep from Asia and then selling its offspring to shooting preserves, according to court documents.
Arthur “Jack” Schubarth, 81, will spend six months in federal prison, with a three-year supervised release, and pay a $20,000 fine and a $4,000 community service payment for cloning the Marco Polo sheep from Kyrgyzstan.
Schubarth was sentenced Monday for committing two felonies, conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act and substantively violating the Lacey Act, according to the Justice Department. The Lacey Act is a law that bans the trafficking of illegally taken wildlife, fish and plants.

was the sheep taken illegally in Kyrgyzstan ?

(4) Nothing in this subsection shall restrict the importation of dead natural-history specimens for museums or for scientific collections

Looks to me this guy was playing in the gray area

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18-section42&num=0&edition=prelim

https://www.fws.gov/law/lacey-act

 

[Fritz the Cat]

was the sheep taken illegally in Kyrgyzstan ?

No

 

[Obi-Wan]

My question, as always with these people, is who the hell who pay to shoot something like that to begin with?

Wow.

There is high fence hunting because thousands of people are willing to pay for it. How many african hunts are high fence hunts ?

 

[Jiffy]

I know.

Couldn’t care less about Africa.

At all.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I know.

Couldn’t care less about Africa.

At all.

same type of people who go on African hunts hunt high fence areas in the US. I know a guy who went on an African hunt and after that the " outfitter" from Africa came here to shoot a fenced Buffalo.

 

[Jiffy]

That’s nice.

 

[johnr]

They are fucking sheep, who gives a rats ass, God will make more, or something even gooder.

 

[SDMF]

was the sheep taken illegally in Kyrgyzstan ?

(4) Nothing in this subsection shall restrict the importation of dead natural-history specimens for museums or for scientific collections

Looks to me this guy was playing in the gray area

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18-section42&num=0&edition=prelim

https://www.fws.gov/law/lacey-act

Not being a geneticist, nor well steeped in animal husbandry, I suspect that the embryos he implanted into his females were deemed technically "alive" and therefore not "dead" natural history specimens.

 

[rodcontrol]

http://www.whiteelkranch.com/live-sales.html

 

[snow2]

How did he think this would play out? If he is smart enough to clone an animal that apparently you can't transport alive into the states then what made him think that this would be ok. I will say that its interesting but there has to be a better way towards conservation than this. Yes I understand that the intent was to put them into high fence operations and not into the wild.

Greed,all about $$

 

[Obi-Wan]

Not being a geneticist, nor well steeped in animal husbandry, I suspect that the embryos he implanted into his females were deemed technically "alive" and therefore not "dead" natural history specimens.

He did not bring embryos back or import embryos to be implanted he brought back genetic material which he had cloned.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I doubt he cloned anything. My guess is he brought back a refrigerated straw of semen.
The problem begins when they escape like the elk/red stage fiasco in Idahoe.

 

[espringers]

holy sheep shit batman! that's quite an operation!

 

[guywhofishes]

They are fucking sheep.

When in Montana….

 

[lunkerslayer]

Does anyone even eat mutton or is a big horn just for the trophy and the notoriety

 

[Kurtr]

Does anyone even eat mutton or is a big horn just for the trophy and the notoriety

Guys i know that have ate it said its pretty good.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Guys i know that have ate it said its pretty good.

Those guys probably ate the balls to