So how were they rigging these things to blow? We're they strapping M80's on them or something since they don't seem bright enough to try and make anything complicated!
Well this is going to get interesting
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I wonder if Chase plans on running for office again...
http://www.inforum.com/news/4210213-iron-eyes-among-protesters-arrested-confrontation
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Definitely like seeing the standing rock police getting involved.
News says Iron Eyes got himself picked up with 75 others yesterday. I wonder if law enforcement is finally going to prevent re-entry to the camp so they can clear it out. With the tribe now joining law enforcement in asking everyone to leave and the Corps approving the pipeline, I don't see how they can let people back in.
Finally over??
Finally over??
Talking with people with first hand knowledge they said the tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife there yesterday
US veterans group says Dakota Access pipeline 'will not get completed. Not on our watch'
Tom DiChristopher | @tdichristopher 20 Hours Ago
Veterans march with activists near Backwater Bridge just outside of the Oceti Sakowin camp during a snow fall as "water protectors" continue to demonstrate against plans to pass the Dakota Access pipeline adjacent to the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, near Cannon Ball, North Dakota.
Lucas Jackson | Reuters
Veterans march with activists near Backwater Bridge just outside of the Oceti Sakowin camp during a snow fall as "water protectors" continue to demonstrate against plans to pass the Dakota Access pipeline adjacent to the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, near Cannon Ball, North Dakota.
A group of U.S. military veterans has vowed to block completion of the hotly disputed Dakota Access pipeline, despite the secretary of the Army giving the project the green light.
"We are committed to the people of Standing Rock, we are committed to nonviolence, and we will do everything within our power to ensure that the environment and human life are respected. That pipeline will not get completed. Not on our watch," said Anthony Diggs, a spokesman for Veterans Stand.
Diggs added that the group hopes to raise enough funds "to have a larger, solid boots-on-the-ground presence."
The secretary of the Army instructed the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to grant Energy Transfer Partners the easement it needs to complete the final stretch of its $3.7 billion pipeline, Sen. John Hoeven and Rep. Kevin Cramer, both of North Dakota, said Tuesday. President Donald Trump last week signed executive actions to advance construction for Dakota Access and another disputed pipeline.
Dakota Access pipeline route, source: Energy Transfer Partners
Veterans Stand has raised $37,000 since launching a GoFundMe campaign last week. Part of that money will go to "basic transport of supplies and personnel," Diggs told CNBC.
The Standing Rock Sioux tribe also on Tuesday vowed to mount a legal challenge claiming the Corps lacks the statutory authority to stop an environment review and issue the easement.
The tribe opposes construction, saying the pipeline passes beneath a source for its drinking water and construction would disrupt sacred land. Their campaign has drawn thousands of protesters to camps near Cannon Ball, North Dakota, in recent months.
To abandon the study "would amount to a wholly unexplained and arbitrary change based on the president's personal views and, potentially, personal investments," the tribe said in a statement.
Trump's financial disclosures show he owned shares of Energy Transfer Partners, the company building the Dakota Access pipeline. Staffers for Trump say he has sold that investment, but that has not yet been confirmed by any further financial disclosures.
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President Donald Trump holds up a signed executive order to advance construction of the Keystone XL pipeline at the White House in Washington January 24, 2017.
It's difficult to argue that the secretary of the Army lacks the authority to grant the easement, said Bruce Huber, an associate professor of law at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in environmental law.
However, any halt to the environmental study will face a high burden proof, he said. That's because the Army's assistant secretary for civil works is on the record as saying other routes should be explored and an environmental study is the best way to do that.
In December, the Corps denied the easement and said the best path forward would be to consider alternative routes for the project by conducting an environmental review with public input and analysis.
"That's an unclear bit of law there, whether the process can simply be terminated," Huber said. "You can bet your bottom dollar it will be litigated."
The Standing Rock Sioux also took issue with Republican lawmakers who claimed the easement had already been granted. The headline on Cramer's statement on Tuesday read, "Approved — Dakota Access Pipeline receives federal easement."
The Indigenous Environmental Network raised concerns that attempts to force through approval would stoke tension at protest camps, where activists have already clashed with law enforcement.
"Instead of following proper legal procedure and completing the Environmental Impact Study, the Army has chosen to escalate an already tense situation, go against their own processes and potentially put people in harm's way," the network said in a statement.
In his statement, Hoeven said various agencies are working to bring in more "federal law enforcement resources to support state and local law enforcement."
The latest flare-up occurred last month when the Morton County Sheriff's Department used foam rubber bullets, pepper spray and smoke canisters to disperse protesters. The activists attempted to enter private property and threw projectiles at authorities, the department said.
A department spokesperson said there are still about 300 people at three camps on or near the Standing Rock reservation.
Last week, Veterans Stand announced plans to support the protesters camped out in North Dakota. Those efforts include a plan to quickly mobilize thousands of U.S. military veterans to return to Standing Rock after about 4,000 traveled there in December.
The presence of veterans among protesters potentially sets up a public relations challenge for the Trump team.
Efforts by activists to boost their presence could be hampered by forecasts for flooding in the region. Numbers have already dwindled due to harsh winter weather.
Tom DiChristopher | @tdichristopher 20 Hours Ago
Veterans march with activists near Backwater Bridge just outside of the Oceti Sakowin camp during a snow fall as "water protectors" continue to demonstrate against plans to pass the Dakota Access pipeline adjacent to the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, near Cannon Ball, North Dakota.
Lucas Jackson | Reuters
Veterans march with activists near Backwater Bridge just outside of the Oceti Sakowin camp during a snow fall as "water protectors" continue to demonstrate against plans to pass the Dakota Access pipeline adjacent to the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, near Cannon Ball, North Dakota.
A group of U.S. military veterans has vowed to block completion of the hotly disputed Dakota Access pipeline, despite the secretary of the Army giving the project the green light.
"We are committed to the people of Standing Rock, we are committed to nonviolence, and we will do everything within our power to ensure that the environment and human life are respected. That pipeline will not get completed. Not on our watch," said Anthony Diggs, a spokesman for Veterans Stand.
Diggs added that the group hopes to raise enough funds "to have a larger, solid boots-on-the-ground presence."
The secretary of the Army instructed the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to grant Energy Transfer Partners the easement it needs to complete the final stretch of its $3.7 billion pipeline, Sen. John Hoeven and Rep. Kevin Cramer, both of North Dakota, said Tuesday. President Donald Trump last week signed executive actions to advance construction for Dakota Access and another disputed pipeline.
Dakota Access pipeline route, source: Energy Transfer Partners
Veterans Stand has raised $37,000 since launching a GoFundMe campaign last week. Part of that money will go to "basic transport of supplies and personnel," Diggs told CNBC.
The Standing Rock Sioux tribe also on Tuesday vowed to mount a legal challenge claiming the Corps lacks the statutory authority to stop an environment review and issue the easement.
The tribe opposes construction, saying the pipeline passes beneath a source for its drinking water and construction would disrupt sacred land. Their campaign has drawn thousands of protesters to camps near Cannon Ball, North Dakota, in recent months.
To abandon the study "would amount to a wholly unexplained and arbitrary change based on the president's personal views and, potentially, personal investments," the tribe said in a statement.
Trump's financial disclosures show he owned shares of Energy Transfer Partners, the company building the Dakota Access pipeline. Staffers for Trump say he has sold that investment, but that has not yet been confirmed by any further financial disclosures.
Play Video
President Donald Trump holds up a signed executive order to advance construction of the Keystone XL pipeline at the White House in Washington January 24, 2017.
It's difficult to argue that the secretary of the Army lacks the authority to grant the easement, said Bruce Huber, an associate professor of law at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in environmental law.
However, any halt to the environmental study will face a high burden proof, he said. That's because the Army's assistant secretary for civil works is on the record as saying other routes should be explored and an environmental study is the best way to do that.
In December, the Corps denied the easement and said the best path forward would be to consider alternative routes for the project by conducting an environmental review with public input and analysis.
"That's an unclear bit of law there, whether the process can simply be terminated," Huber said. "You can bet your bottom dollar it will be litigated."
The Standing Rock Sioux also took issue with Republican lawmakers who claimed the easement had already been granted. The headline on Cramer's statement on Tuesday read, "Approved — Dakota Access Pipeline receives federal easement."
The Indigenous Environmental Network raised concerns that attempts to force through approval would stoke tension at protest camps, where activists have already clashed with law enforcement.
"Instead of following proper legal procedure and completing the Environmental Impact Study, the Army has chosen to escalate an already tense situation, go against their own processes and potentially put people in harm's way," the network said in a statement.
In his statement, Hoeven said various agencies are working to bring in more "federal law enforcement resources to support state and local law enforcement."
The latest flare-up occurred last month when the Morton County Sheriff's Department used foam rubber bullets, pepper spray and smoke canisters to disperse protesters. The activists attempted to enter private property and threw projectiles at authorities, the department said.
A department spokesperson said there are still about 300 people at three camps on or near the Standing Rock reservation.
Last week, Veterans Stand announced plans to support the protesters camped out in North Dakota. Those efforts include a plan to quickly mobilize thousands of U.S. military veterans to return to Standing Rock after about 4,000 traveled there in December.
The presence of veterans among protesters potentially sets up a public relations challenge for the Trump team.
Efforts by activists to boost their presence could be hampered by forecasts for flooding in the region. Numbers have already dwindled due to harsh winter weather.
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US veterans group says Dakota Access pipeline 'will not get completed. Not on our watch'
"We are committed to the people of Standing Rock, we are committed to nonviolence, and we will do everything within our power to ensure that the environment and human life are respected. That pipeline will not get completed. Not on our watch," said Anthony Diggs, a spokesman for Veterans Stand.
Ahhhh.....Apparently their internet wifi must be down or has been for some time. Do they not know that the Standing Rock people want them gone????
Veterans Stand has raised $37,000 since launching a GoFundMe campaign last week. Part of that money will go to "basic transport of supplies and personnel," Diggs told CNBC
Good for them! Considering the Generals kid took over a $million$ on the last Go Fund Me. The Go Fund Me people must love this, as they get to keep 10% of all funds raised.
"Instead of following proper legal procedure and completing the Environmental Impact Study, the Army has chosen to escalate an already tense situation, go against their own processes and potentially put people in harm's way," the network said in a statement.
Guess someone didn't get the memo that the Environmental Impact Study was actually done before the original permit was issued. Requesting another was an Oh-bummer involvement. :;:huh
Last week, Veterans Stand announced plans to support the protesters camped out in North Dakota. Those efforts include a plan to quickly mobilize thousands of U.S. military veterans to return to Standing Rock after about 4,000 traveled there in December.
The presence of veterans among protesters potentially sets up a public relations challenge for the Trump team.
I am a veteran and I feel that these so called veterans need to remember their oath that when in the service you are to fight enemies "foreign and domestic". They are putting themselves into domestic terrorism and should lose any and all veteran benefits if identified during this protest. They outta be reported to the VA. ;:;banghead
If he does there are a few juicy e-mail / text conversations with his girl friend floating around along with a buck naked picture of him that he sent her.
You really think they need to resort to that kind dirt to prevent ol' Chase from being elected? Pretty sure his political opponents need only make sure voters know he's on the ballot and he'll lose.
The thing is snow majority of the people you are talking about actually do relate to cheps post, your interactions with a few has clouded your perception of the majority. I suggest getting out more and looking for those people that chep is talking about.
I'm pretty sure the tribe made a formal request for the intervention of federal officers to help clear the camp by fed 20'th or some such date. I know for sure that cannonball asked for help and I think dave agreed. He's been out blasting the new protest camp in the news so that another good sign we can get this shit over with because this thread is a 120 pages longer then it ever should have been.
Yeah his reelection odds seem fairly Slim. He's managed to piss off both sides and that's always a great idea when you're a politician!:;:imwithstupid
DAPL Protest Takes One Step Forward, Two Steps Back
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]DAPL protesters and law enforcement relations took a turn for the worst, after protesters tried set up another camp on top of the hill near Highway 1806. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]This is after police removed barricades from the backwater bridge in a sign of good faith, now they've since put those barriers back and the people here can feel the tension.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"People here are getting frustrated, both sides are getting frustrated to be honest," said DAPL Protester Rachel Willock. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock works in the kitchen not too far from where the arrest occurred near Highway 1806. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I had seen a whole line of cars and humvee," she said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock called what happened on Wednesday another example of tug of war, where both sides are unwilling to drop the rope.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"Neither side is willing to budge and it's going to stay that way until something happens."[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]State Highway Patrol Lieutenant Tom Iverson says the protesters forced their hand and police had no other choice but to take action. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"There was plenty of time for them to remove themselves from that area," Lt. Iverson said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Lieutenant Iverson says there's a faction of the protest group that continues to cause trouble, making their job more challenging.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"We got to remember that that is a isolated group that we need to take the necessary enforcement action on and hold them accountable while still engaging and talks with the protesters there[/FONT][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif],[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]" he said.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]The encounter pushed law enforcement the closed they have ever been to the camp.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock says it's another show of force.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I think it's another way to intimidate," she said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Iverson says the best approach for law enforcement is not stop talks amid rising tensions, but to continue to try and make steps toward progress.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I'm confident about that," he said. [/FONT]
- - - Updated - - -
DAPL Protesters Fed up With the "Agitators"
Things around the pipeline protest camp seem pretty calm. But on Wednesday, that was not the case. One protester, Rachel Willock recounts, "A group of police officers in riot gear marching forward and pushing the protectors back. They pushed them all the way back to this gate. That's when I noticed the tipis up on the hill where you see the hum-vs up there."
Those hum-vs are there to keep anyone off the hill where they were trying to set up the new camp. The protesters say it was to prepare for spring.
"This is a flood plane and when this starts to melt in areas up here, this will be under water. So, they wanted to build a camp up on higher land. So they can be dry and be safe," said Tom, a protester who chose not to disclose his last name.
After law enforcement caught wind of the plan, 76 were arrested a few hours later. Not everyone was in agreement with the rogue camp. One native from Cheyenne River Alex Hithelk, has had enough of the confrontations.
"Every one of those agitators are non-Indian and they think they can just go and fight, but they got to ask us first. We're the ones that give the word. And us Lakotas we believe in peace and not fighting," says Hithelk.
He says that he's not the only one who is against the separate group.
Hithelk adds, "They're not listening. All the, how many meetings we've have, they're the same people that always cause trouble for us."
Those still at the camp are focusing on clean up efforts. The plan is still to move out of the area onto higher ground, but there is no word on when or where that will happen.
According to Morton County Sheriff's Department, the arrest total is nearly 700.
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]DAPL protesters and law enforcement relations took a turn for the worst, after protesters tried set up another camp on top of the hill near Highway 1806. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]This is after police removed barricades from the backwater bridge in a sign of good faith, now they've since put those barriers back and the people here can feel the tension.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"People here are getting frustrated, both sides are getting frustrated to be honest," said DAPL Protester Rachel Willock. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock works in the kitchen not too far from where the arrest occurred near Highway 1806. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I had seen a whole line of cars and humvee," she said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock called what happened on Wednesday another example of tug of war, where both sides are unwilling to drop the rope.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"Neither side is willing to budge and it's going to stay that way until something happens."[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]State Highway Patrol Lieutenant Tom Iverson says the protesters forced their hand and police had no other choice but to take action. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"There was plenty of time for them to remove themselves from that area," Lt. Iverson said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Lieutenant Iverson says there's a faction of the protest group that continues to cause trouble, making their job more challenging.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"We got to remember that that is a isolated group that we need to take the necessary enforcement action on and hold them accountable while still engaging and talks with the protesters there[/FONT][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif],[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]" he said.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]The encounter pushed law enforcement the closed they have ever been to the camp.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Willock says it's another show of force.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I think it's another way to intimidate," she said.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Iverson says the best approach for law enforcement is not stop talks amid rising tensions, but to continue to try and make steps toward progress.[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]"I'm confident about that," he said. [/FONT]
- - - Updated - - -
DAPL Protesters Fed up With the "Agitators"
Things around the pipeline protest camp seem pretty calm. But on Wednesday, that was not the case. One protester, Rachel Willock recounts, "A group of police officers in riot gear marching forward and pushing the protectors back. They pushed them all the way back to this gate. That's when I noticed the tipis up on the hill where you see the hum-vs up there."
Those hum-vs are there to keep anyone off the hill where they were trying to set up the new camp. The protesters say it was to prepare for spring.
"This is a flood plane and when this starts to melt in areas up here, this will be under water. So, they wanted to build a camp up on higher land. So they can be dry and be safe," said Tom, a protester who chose not to disclose his last name.
After law enforcement caught wind of the plan, 76 were arrested a few hours later. Not everyone was in agreement with the rogue camp. One native from Cheyenne River Alex Hithelk, has had enough of the confrontations.
"Every one of those agitators are non-Indian and they think they can just go and fight, but they got to ask us first. We're the ones that give the word. And us Lakotas we believe in peace and not fighting," says Hithelk.
He says that he's not the only one who is against the separate group.
Hithelk adds, "They're not listening. All the, how many meetings we've have, they're the same people that always cause trouble for us."
Those still at the camp are focusing on clean up efforts. The plan is still to move out of the area onto higher ground, but there is no word on when or where that will happen.
According to Morton County Sheriff's Department, the arrest total is nearly 700.
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