Will socialism work?

[1lessdog]

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that she had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on this plan. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A." After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second test's average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame, and name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when the government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation. Dogs come into our lives to teach us about love. They depart to teach us about loss.

 

[Rowdie]

The only example I could ever site where socialism worked is in America BEFORE whitey showed up. People lived and worked together and shared what wealth they had, as in food and materials.

 

[BP338]

I don't see that as "socialism". That is just survival. When people discuss socialism, it's in the realm of economics. What the American Indian did for a really long time is exist, basic survival was primarily their objective, not growing their economy or being socially fair. They had to make sure that as many of their tribe could survive so they had a chance of winning the next skirmish against the neighboring tribe. If the great U.S. of A. was in survival mode, we'd share like the injuns did.

Apples to oranges in my opinion. Interesting to think about though.

 

[eyexer]

The only example I could ever site where socialism worked is in America BEFORE whitey showed up. People lived and worked together and shared what wealth they had, as in food and materials.

def not an example of socialism. There was no forced removal of anything by anybody to give to somebody else. Except maybe when one tribe was killing other tribes to take their shit

 

[Allen]

The only example I could ever site where socialism worked is in America BEFORE whitey showed up. People lived and worked together and shared what wealth they had, as in food and materials.

Didn't they also throw the old women out into the cold after they'd inventory the supplies and come to the conclusion there wasn't enough for everyone to make it through the winter?

 

[westwolfone]

It might work on a smaller scale. Like the Amish or some of the other cults.

 

[Ponyroper]

Didn't they also throw the old women out into the cold after they'd inventory the supplies and come to the conclusion there wasn't enough for everyone to make it through the winter?

Actually most Native American tribes had great respect for their elders and took good care of them. Old men were always consulted at their counsels before making important decisions. As far as love for family members we could learn a lot from Indians.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Actually most Native American tribes had great respect for their elders and took good care of them. Old men were always consulted at their counsels before making important decisions. As far as love for family members we could learn a lot from Indians.

Skeletal remains indicate the life expectancy of Native Americans was somewhere around 32 years old. As for respecting their elders or women I sure got different stories from old Indians I knew back in the 1950's. Now we hear foolish things like Indians are not capable of lies. That and other outragiouse fairy tales.
What can we learn, how to permanently dump our kids on the grandparents so we don't have to be responsible?

 

[martinslanding]

I believe Socialism will work ... vote Bernie and give it a try ... what's the worst that can happen ???





...I couldn't even type that with a straight face

 

[Rowdie]

Didn't they also throw the old women out into the cold after they'd inventory the supplies and come to the conclusion there wasn't enough for everyone to make it through the winter?

LOL never heard that one. Sounds like a "white" lie

They did have "give aways" Still do as tradition. A give away was one way they redistributed wealth. If a rich man married off a daughter, or some other ceremony, he gave away a lot of his wealth, as in horses and other materials. They didn't have "forced labor" and yes, they were surviving, but they had a social life and lived in a socialistic way. No one owned any land or buffalo. Crops were shared. And yes its a long ways from what socialism is today.

IF (Big Big IF) everyone pitched in their fair share of the labor, socialism and communism could work. But they both HING on mankind's willingness to share the labor load, and have NO CORRUPTION AT THE TOP!! Neither will work the way humans are wired. Why work hard, and be innovative, if there's no chance to get ahead? There's just no reason to work hard, or at all, in socialism.

 

[eyexer]

The bullshit about natives taking care of their own died with Custer. Otherwise you wouldn’t have the natives bathing in cash from their casinos and thumbing their noses at pine ridge

 

[lunkerslayer]

Hmmmm ask Venezuela if socialism works

 

[guywhofishes]

The only example I could ever site where socialism worked is in America BEFORE whitey showed up. People lived and worked together and shared what wealth they had, as in food and materials.

um... you're describing families/tribes

how did they treat those outside the tribe/family?

 

[db-2]

It will work for those who do not know how to work until they spend all my monies. Then I will joint them so I hope some of you have a bunch of monies for me also. db

 

[Dirty]

This one is easy.

NO

 

[Coalburner]

I can’t wait for some dummy to say how great it works in the Nordic countries so I can tell them how wrong they are. Socialism/Marxism/communism/progressive/liberal is a means to an end. Those 5 groups make up the modern day democrat party - hard to believe that the democrat party was once thought of as the working mans party.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Didn't they also throw the old women out into the cold after they'd inventory the supplies and come to the conclusion there wasn't enough for everyone to make it through the winter?

are you saying that was a bad thing? Don't you have an ex wife wouldn't that have been cheaper than divorce court?

 

[PrairieGhost]

They didn't have "forced labor

Good post Rowie. I'll only disagree on the above. As far as forced labor if you were captured by an enemy tribe you had no idea what was going to happen to you. You may be burned alive for their evening enjoyment, if a woman and pretty you may become some braves woman , if you were a woman and ugly you may get passed around because none wanted to keep you, or you may simply become a slave. Slavery was nothing new to North America.

 

[martinslanding]

 

[Paddledogger]

I am very surprised that the Democrats in North Dakota voted so heavily for Bernie. Guess there is more people than I thought in North Dakota that think the Government owes them everything and needs to take care of them at birth until death.