Direct Payments to farmers/ranchers

[Sluggo]

What became of that deal I heard of where farmers in the red river valley were donating hay to ranchers in need out west?

Anyone else heard of this?

 

[NDSportsman]

What became of that deal I heard of where farmers in the red river valley were donating hay to ranchers in need out west?

Farm Rescue is doing a hay lottery for drought stricken ranchers.

http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...nned-north-dakota-ranchers-struggling-drought

 

[Fritz the Cat]

 

[Sluggo]

Kind of a cool map here: http://ndda.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d9266e1cc231463399c585d7f0a39893

Shows contact info for hay sellers, donaters, haulers and more by clicking on an icon.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Sluggo,

Very interesting site. The icon is bottom of page in the middle. I started going through the sites who has CRP, hay for sale etc. But then I clicked on counties in need of hay. You have to check it out. Why is anyone tracking those numbers?

 

[Sluggo]

Sluggo,

Very interesting site. The icon is bottom of page in the middle. I started going through the sites who has CRP, hay for sale etc. But then I clicked on counties in need of hay. You have to check it out. Why is anyone tracking those numbers?

That info is kinda odd to see on this site. Only thing that occurs to me is that for some reason they are tying in census data. It also wouldn't surprise me if this site was put together in a hurry by copying an existing site that had another purpose and it just happened to have this kind of detail so it just was copied forward.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

When cpete started this thread he may have been inquiring about this:

[h=1]Livestock Forage Losses[/h]

Producers with land physically located in the following counties are eligible to apply for 2017 Livestock Forage Disaster Program (LFP) benefits on small grain for grazing, native pasture, improved pasture, forage sorghum for grazing:​

Adams, Billings, Bowman, Burke, Burleigh, Dickey, Divide, Dunn, Emmons, Golden Valley, Grant, Hettinger, Kidder, LaMoure, Logan, McHenry, McIntosh, McKenzie, McLean, Mercer, Morton, Mountrail, Oliver, Renville, Sheridan, Sioux, Slope, Stark, Ward and Williams.​

LFP provides compensation to eligible livestock producers who suffer grazing losses for covered livestock due to drought on privately owned or cash leased land or fire on federally managed land.​

Eligible livestock producers must complete a CCC-853 and the required supporting documentation no later than January 30, 2018 for 2017 losses.​

Additional Information about LFP, including eligible livestock and fire criteria, is available at your local FSA office or online at: www.fsa.usda.gov.|
​

 

[AR-15]

Where does this Farm Rescue get it's money to operate, seems like they got all new equipment

 

[PrairieGhost]

Where does this Farm Rescue get it's money to operate, seems like they got all new equipment

I have heard John Deer donates equipment. Don't know if that's right.

Thanks for posting that Fritz. It was in the Jamestown Sun about ten days ago. That paper is in the trash already and I couldn't find the information anywhere else so I just kept my mouth shut. Payments are based on severity of the drought right?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Where does this Farm Rescue get it's money to operate, seems like they got all new equipment

Farm Rescue is a non-profit. They get money from Foundations.

Foundations exist at the pleasure of the U.S. governement to serve a charitable purpose. While "charity" is a wide ranging concept, the Tax Reform Act of 1969 spelled out clear rules for foundations. Before TRA, many (not all foundations) were tax dodges.

There are 1.6 million so-called ‘nonprofit’ 501(c)3 organizations in the US. Nonprofits are misnamed and are anything but not-for-profit; a more accurate description is that they are TAX EXEMPT organizations. The two major types of tax exempt organizations are:

• Foundations- these are the grantors and they are required to donate 5% of their assets each year to charitable organizations. They enjoy enormous tax breaks from the federal government and pay no income tax, no corporate tax and no capital gains tax. States and local governments may also exempt them from property and sales taxation. Some powerful foundations are extremely influential in setting political policies and making laws that benefit their enterprises and pass the cost onto taxpayers.
• Nonprofit Organizations or NPOs also enjoy the same tax exemptions as foundations (no income, corporate or capital gains taxes). NPOs are structured like a business and seek grants from foundations, government subsidies and corporate and private donations. They do pursue profits.

Foundations make grants to NPO “charities”. Assets within foundations are not owned by individuals, but individuals control the assets. Because they are allowed to continually re-invest assets without taxation, foundations are used to protect family wealth through estate planning; this scheme is now expanding into business development which means that some businesses are seeking to cut their taxes by pretending to be charitable organizations.

 

[Kurtr]

Down here God is giving direct payment in rain had to have gotten damn near another inch last night and this morning. Highs in the 70's in August and rain might not be enough but everything is growing and turning green. Might make using some pastures till winter viable.

 

[PrairieGhost]

We got 1/2 inch here yesterday. Surprised how fast a lawn can turn green again. I seen that rain headed your way on the radar Kurt.

 

[gst]

Where does this Farm Rescue get it's money to operate, seems like they got all new equipment

http://farmrescue.org/

 

[Zogman]

Zog would you still buy new equipment if the depreciation cost twice what your taxes we're? Would you still buy it if the payments were twice as much as your taxes and you knew you couldn't make the payments?

That is why we pay the Tax Professional!!!!

 

[PrairieGhost]

That is why we pay the Tax Professional!!!!

Now your making me feel old and overly cautious. I wouldn't buy if I couldn't make the payments if the tax guy and my banker told me to.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Now your making me feel old and overly cautious. I wouldn't buy if I couldn't make the payments if the tax guy and my banker told me to.

Well of course PG you wouldn't buy a piece of equipment or supplies for a business. You have never operated a business. Many a business have borrowed money and paid it back. They deal with the if's ​all the time.

 

[gst]

plains always claims to"support" agriculture, but only if they operate how HE deems is the right way. Kinda like how the liberal is "tolerant" as long as you embrace their ideals.

 

[Warvin]

Stalk much? Your obsession with Plainsman is creepy at best!

plains always claims to"support" agriculture, but only if they operate how HE deems is the right way. Kinda like how the liberal is "tolerant" as long as you embrace their ideals.

 

[gst]

Stalk much? Your obsession with Plainsman is creepy at best!

says the fella with a love fest for "Big J".........

 

[Lycanthrope]

Im sure a lot of people who depend on the land are struggling right now. This is unfortunate. That said I would like to see the government step away from supporting industries that are struggling. Only industry support I can see is creating some import taxes to allow local agriculture to compete with overseas markets. Other than that Id like to see the market work itself out. I think what it really comes down to is we overproduce agricultural products in the US, essentially flooding the market and its politically unpopular to let family farms start failing...