Bird Flu

[fireone]

I'm finding a few dead snow geese around the township. No visible wounds. NDGF is taking reports:
https://gf.nd.gov/wildlife/diseases/mortality-report

 

[rodcontrol]

no more baiting snow geese, ya know because they are getting a disease.

 

[eyexer]

Heard they’re killing a massive amount of farm raised turkeys in MN due to bird flu.

 

[tikkalover]

 

[1lessdog]

I found 11 last Saturday that had died of the flu. I walked out and checked for bands. There was no weight to them. This morning I walked up to a Snow standing in the ditch. It just swayed back and forth. I picked it up, it couldn't have weighed more than a few lbs.

 

[riverview]

good thinking looking for bands

 

[tikkalover]

Mother Nature is a bitch. They have been saying that she takes care of over populations on her own. I guess it that time.

 

[1lessdog]

With the amount of geese, between shooting and flu maybe 5 percent die. The flu could kill 25 percent and there would still be to many.

 

[Migrator Man]

I found 11 last Saturday that had died of the flu. I walked out and checked for bands. There was no weight to them. This morning I walked up to a Snow standing in the ditch. It just swayed back and forth. I picked it up, it couldn't have weighed more than a few lbs.

This is how pandemics begin…….

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I'm finding a few dead snow geese around the township. No visible wounds. NDGF is taking reports:
https://gf.nd.gov/wildlife/diseases/mortality-report

Birds in WY have been testing positive, mostly domestic birds so far

 

[svnmag]

We should get a vaccine for air delivery by solar powered drones over nesting areas.

 

[Rut2much]

Saw a pic of a dead bald eagle today presumably from bird flu.

Methinks the early honker season is going to be very affected this year after all this is said and done, but we shall see.

 

[eyexer]

We should get a vaccine for air delivery by solar powered drones over nesting areas.

or just pay em to come on in and get the jab

 

[KDM]

I find it interesting that the ONLY solution the govt. folks have is to kill every bird in the flock, but then they all ask for people that see birds behaving strangely in their own flocks to call them so they can test the flock. WHY would any chicken owner willingly call when the only solution is total loss of your birds??? It never said in any of the reports of these so called "Positives" that the birds were symptomatic, sick, or dying. Just that they tested positive, with the same PCR tests that have been proven problematic with false positives numerous times in the past. Bird flu comes in two flavors from what I can tell, Low Pathogenic and High Pathogenic. High Pathogenic has high mortality in birds and the other doesn't do much of anything and neither infects people. Why kill all the birds? Why not let the flu take it's course thereby leaving the resistant birds in the flock and improving the flocks genetic health?? Seems to work for wild birds just fine. I just find it odd that instead of trying to build bird flu resistant poultry flocks, we kill them all and only accomplish reducing the supply of meat and eggs. Seems to me we are shooting ourselves in the foot as bird flu is uncontrollable in wild birds and we will continue to have this problem.

 

[lunkerslayer]

The avian bird flu is decimating poultry farms all over the world right now, poultry farms need to cull the infected birds before they spread the virus to healthy birds, the problem is domesticated birds have no real immune system since being in an environment that is accessible to viruses. Poultry farms of earlier times ended up cuasing a mutation in the birds immune system by hastily giving the birds a vaccine that was not vetted properly for merk disease. Which is the reason why newborn chicks are given a vaccine after they are hatched for merks disease.

Before someone is a denier and my opinion here is one article:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

 

[watson]

I find it interesting that the ONLY solution the govt. folks have is to kill every bird in the flock, but then they all ask for people that see birds behaving strangely in their own flocks to call them so they can test the flock. WHY would any chicken owner willingly call when the only solution is total loss of your birds??? It never said in any of the reports of these so called "Positives" that the birds were symptomatic, sick, or dying. Just that they tested positive, with the same PCR tests that have been proven problematic with false positives numerous times in the past. Bird flu comes in two flavors from what I can tell, Low Pathogenic and High Pathogenic. High Pathogenic has high mortality in birds and the other doesn't do much of anything and neither infects people. Why kill all the birds? Why not let the flu take it's course thereby leaving the resistant birds in the flock and improving the flocks genetic health?? Seems to work for wild birds just fine. I just find it odd that instead of trying to build bird flu resistant poultry flocks, we kill them all and only accomplish reducing the supply of meat and eggs. Seems to me we are shooting ourselves in the foot as bird flu is uncontrollable in wild birds and we will continue to have this problem.

Wouldn't you think the close proximity to each other of a private flock compared to wild birds would have something to do with it? Not saying its right or wrong

 

[KDM]

Wouldn't you think the close proximity to each other of a private flock compared to wild birds would have something to do with it? Not saying its right or wrong

Have you ever seen a flock of snow geese sitting on the ground. They are packed in like cord wood. Same for wild birds at every bird feeder ever put up. I don't think proximity of domestic birds is much different than the proximity of wild birds. My point is that it is the wild birds that are the reservoirs for bird flu and it is impossible to treat/deal with that big of a disease source, so why not attempt to breed resistant turkeys, chickens, ducks, and other domestic poultry so we don't have to lose meat and egg supplies every time the wild birds infect a domestic flock. Killing off every bird in a flock ENSURES that any resistant birds that would have survived the outbreak is lost. Thereby ENSURING maximum susceptibility of domestic poultry to bird flu. It doesn't make sense to me. High Pathogenic bird flu has a stated mortality of up to 90%. That means that 10% of a 100000 bird flock could possibly be resistant and survive. Why not breed those birds with those resistant traits and help improve the domestic flocks disease resistance and durability? They kill every bird right now which eliminates that opportunity for improvement. I think it's a flawed response with nothing but negative results.

 

[watson]

Have you ever seen a flock of snow geese sitting on the ground. They are packed in like cord wood. Same for wild birds at every bird feeder ever put up. I don't think proximity of domestic birds is much different than the proximity of wild birds. My point is that it is the wild birds that are the reservoirs for bird flu and it is impossible to treat/deal with that big of a disease source, so why not attempt to breed resistant turkeys, chickens, ducks, and other domestic poultry so we don't have to lose meat and egg supplies every time the wild birds infect a domestic flock. Killing off every bird in a flock ENSURES that any resistant birds that would have survived the outbreak is lost. Thereby ENSURING maximum susceptibility of domestic poultry to bird flu. It doesn't make sense to me. High Pathogenic bird flu has a stated mortality of up to 90%. That means that 10% of a 100000 bird flock could possibly be resistant and survive. Why not breed those birds with those resistant traits and help improve the domestic flocks disease resistance and durability? They kill every bird right now which eliminates that opportunity for improvement. I think it's a flawed response with nothing but negative results.

If you're making your living off those 100k birds, and you kill off what you think are the diseased ones, would you take the chance of investing money to rebuild the flock again hoping that the ones left are resistant? Insurance policies come into play with situations like this and it's another factor the producer has to considered whether they like it or not

 

[Kurtr]

Went out Thursday and not a single dead one in my area. The amount of honkers was crazy . I hope they stick around august can’t come fast enough.

 

[KDM]

If you're making your living off those 100k birds, and you kill off what you think are the diseased ones, would you take the chance of investing money to rebuild the flock again hoping that the ones left are resistant? Insurance policies come into play with situations like this and it's another factor the producer has to considered whether they like it or not

Insurance policies are irrelevant to my point. My point is that keeping the poultry flocks completely susceptible to bird flu by killing entire flocks doesn't seem to be a good long term strategy when dealing with a recurring disease that we can not control. Does in not make sense to at least attempt to develop bird flu resistant poultry in this country??

 

[bucksnbears]

I seen a cooper's hawk fall stone dead out of a tree today by my bird feeder today.
Bird Flu must have him hard?