Bring back Flatheads in ND

[deleted user]

20k is probably the necessary number to provide a stable fishery. I highly doubt they assume 100% put and take.

 

[dblkluk]

How about some steelhead? Or stocking Cisco or lake herring….. whenever I hear about about reasons to not try to reintroduce lake trout I hear excuses but no valid reasons that couldnt be achieved without a bit of effort….the east end isnt exactly known as a walleyes factory like further upriver…..throw some steelhead or browns in and see what happens it just seems to me rhey are stuck on walleyes in ND and will pump millions into stocking unsustainable lakes but can’t give a bit of effort to ramp up our cold water fisheries into something even better…..

I would like nothing more than for them to resume stocking the tailrace with Cutthroats. Any one who remembers the glory days of the state record being broke every 2 weeks will remember how much fun those are.

I think they've done a great job on developing some of the small fisheries around the state in the last decade or so but also agree they have wasted a lot of time and effort on some duds just because they think everyone wants 10 perch and walleye lakes within 30 minutes of their house.

 

[Sum1]

What happened to the giant trout in the tailrace?

 

[Sum1]

And why the hell would they put catfish in fish creek

 

[MSA]

What happened to the giant trout in the tailrace?

They all died, no more big tailrace trout

 

[Sum1]

They all died, no more big tailrace trout

Why don’t they put more of those in there.

 

[MSA]

Why don’t they put more of those in there.

Because they died, there's like a virus or something that kills them

 

[svnmag]

The cuts were hyped up quite a bit then...I caught one 10in in 2000.

 

[Trip McNeely]

I think natural mortality rate (i.e. getting eating by bigger things, croaking from stress/diseases, etc.) far outpaces our ability or inability to tease them out of the water on hook and line...

Right and I totally agree. Im sure they factor in mortality rate upon stocking and probably have an idea of how many fish will even make it past the first month…. So they assume a lot of fish are going to die by natural mortality and then they factor in angler harvest as well. That’s kind of my point as well. They know that it’s inevitable they’ll have mortality. And actually the mortality rate in a probably 95% of our little lakes is 100%. Without stocking efforts there wouldnt be fish. So if there’s no harm to the forage nor any severe impact why not dump 5k lakers in sakakawea sporadically or 10k cutthroats or browns or rainbows….. they don’t seem to mind knowing all those walleyes won’t survive so why do they care if 5k lakers eventually die…. why would they care about a few thousand cold water fish dying when half a million salmon die yearly and just as many walleyes die statewide…. Isnt the point of stocking, especially these little ass lakes for angler enjoyment…..so how is 5k lakers that will probably die but could provide angler enjoyment any different?….. we stock little lakes knowing they’ll die…. How come the conversation turns to “they’ll never make it in Sak” with lake trout…. Who cares if 35 fish make it to 15-20 pounds and an occasional trout is caught then I’d say it’s worth it when you consider the mortality rates of other fish rhey seem fine with……

 

[Twitch]

I think they should kill all of Sakakawea and stock just snook and tarpon…they’ll probably all die but maybe it would be fun if one lived to be caught….#walleye and salmon suck

 

[Trip McNeely]

I think they should kill all of Sakakawea and stock just snook and tarpon…they’ll probably all die but maybe it would be fun if one lived to be caught….#walleye and salmon suck

Cool story bro

 

[Twitch]

Cool story bro

They tried what you want. It didn’t work. They aren’t going to possibly jeopardize the more popular fishery to retry things that didn’t work with our water temps and forage. Sak isn’t Peck or Oahe. If you want to go catch lakers go to Peck

 

[Trip McNeely]

They tried what you want. It didn’t work. They aren’t going to possibly jeopardize the more popular fishery to retry things that didn’t work with our water temps and forage. Sak isn’t Peck or Oahe. If you want to go catch lakers go to Peck

They tried it 35 years ago……. Try again…. I apologize Im not the shrug my shoulders and accept the “thats just how it is” types of attitude. Im not content standing in a circle….reverse palming my Johnson with the rest of the huk crowd over a bunch of 14” walleyes…. Welp boys they tried 35 years ago one time, shit good enough for me I guess. If it’s a temp thing… and they don’t do well on smelt then throw some in…see what happens

 

[double account removed]

thats a win win might catch a trout or we can bitch n moan about how useless n incompetent the fish n game are

 

[Bfishn]

And why the hell would they put catfish in fish creek

I think they are trying things to try and take care of the blue gill and bull head population. They have been stocking tiger trout in there as well. Part of me thinks they should just kill the entire thing and start over.

 

[KDM]

I think a couple dozen semi loads of channel catfish in Lake Ashtabula or any lake that has too many bullheads would turn those lakes bullheads into something folks would enjoy tangling with AND putting in the hot oil at the end of the day. Seems to me controlling bullheads with catfish would be a better way to spend resources than trying to force trout or other fish to live where they aren't normally found. Even if folks don't want to eat catfish. I for one would rather catch a catfish than a bullhead. Just an old grey beards opinion though.

 

[Allen]

Because they died, there's like a virus or something that kills them

Whirling disease?

I know ND isn't immune to whirling disease, but also didn't know it was that big of a problem. Or, maybe there's another pathogen?

 

[MSA]

Whirling disease?

I know ND isn't immune to whirling disease, but also didn't know it was that big of a problem. Or, maybe there's another pathogen?

No, it's called imfullofshitiosis...its a virus designed to keep other anglers attention away from what I'm doing until Ive reached my goal of a trout over 20lbs

 

[Trip McNeely]

thats a win win might catch a trout or we can bitch n moan about how useless n incompetent the fish n game are

Those are your words, don’t recall anyone remotely mentioning that in this thread.

 

[double account removed]

thought that was evry thread did you guys have a meeting without me