Mandan Data center pushback

[Wally World]

 

[Rowdie]

Did anyone go?

 

[Rowdie]

I've seen a lot of city councils around the country on YouTube and X and 99% of the public comments are opposed. Then the council approves them. They have to be getting $ under the table somehow.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Us peons don't get the memos. It goes something like , if data center requests come across your desk , approve them . Our jobs and funding are at risk otherwise.

 

[Sum1]

I've seen a lot of city councils around the country on YouTube and X and 99% of the public comments are opposed. Then the council approves them. They have to be getting $ under the table somehow.

They’re all for show. Just like questioning Fauci for vaccines or the Hildabeast over Benghazi, the city councils are no different. They have their mind made up before they even have these meetings. Just a feel good measure to make the public think they had a say.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Whole lot of gray hair in that picture... some demos are easier to target with propaganda than others. They probably think data centers are going to use all the water! lol

 

[johnr]

Have been seeing a lot of banners in the country side that state "Family farms over Data farms"

I guess I don't get it, are these data farms taking away a farmers farm? Or is it a fear of water usage, or they wont get the big tax breaks they get now?

 

[Lycanthrope]

Have been seeing a lot of banners in the country side that state "Family farms over Data farms"

I guess I don't get it, are these data farms taking away a farmers farm? Or is it a fear of water usage, or they wont get the big tax breaks they get now?

Its mostly WOMEN and a few idiots up in arms about datacenters... There are places where they shouldnt go, and they do use some electricity, but really, its much fuss about nothing.

 

[Twitch]

Its mostly WOMEN and a few idiots up in arms about datacenters... There are places where they shouldnt go, and they do use some electricity, but really, its much fuss about nothing.

Yeah but you want AI running the world…grin

 

[Lycanthrope]

Yeah but you want AI running the world…grin

I wouldnt say that, but theres a possibility than it might do it better than humans...

 

[Zogman]

Yeah but you want AI running the world…grin

It already is controlling most search engines.

 

[Zogman]

I wouldnt say that, but theres a possibility than it will do it better than the democrats

Fixed it for you.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Its mostly WOMEN and a few idiots up in arms about datacenters... There are places where they shouldnt go, and they do use some electricity, but really, its much fuss about nothing.

To me it's discouraging the way they barge into a community with no regards to resident concerns and the cover up or smooth it over used by local governments and businesses who want them.

It's that push that people don't like. By the time the public was informed at the Harwood site, it was already a done deal. I asked my boy if he thinks his electric rates will go up , he said they went up right before the center was introduced. Businesses and local governments who want them are smooth operators.

 

[Wally World]

Its mostly WOMEN and a few idiots up in arms about datacenters... There are places where they shouldnt go, and they do use some electricity, but really, its much fuss about nothing.

We'll see how you feel about them in several years when members of your family lose their jobs and when your utility bills skyrocket to offset their operating costs.

 

[johnr]

We'll see how you feel about them in several years when members of your family lose their jobs and when your utility bills skyrocket to offset their operating costs.

Kinda like insurance rates to cover the transvestites.

 

[Slappy]

In any case a bit ironic complaining about data centers on an internet forum, most likely via handheld wireless touchscreen voice controlled supercomputer.

 

[Achucker]

To me it's discouraging the way they barge into a community with no regards to resident concerns and the cover up or smooth it over used by local governments and businesses who want them.

It's that push that people don't like. By the time the public was informed at the Harwood site, it was already a done deal. I asked my boy if he thinks his electric rates will go up , he said they went up right before the center was introduced. Businesses and local governments who want them are smooth operators.

Do you think its a coincidence mdu just signed on to supply more than 400 megawatts of power to the one up by center weeks after requesting a rate increase with the psc?

 

[Davy Crockett]

Do you think its a coincidence mdu just signed on to supply more than 400 megawatts of power to the one up by center weeks after requesting a rate increase with the psc?

I didn't know about that but all you have to do is follow the dots.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I didn't know about that but all you have to do is follow the dots.

Yes. Major tech and data center companies frequently require local and state public officials to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) during the early planning, site selection, and negotiation stages.Why Companies Use NDAsProtect Secrets: Developers want to conceal proprietary site plans, specific power requirements, and trade secrets from competitors.Prevent Land Speculation: Keeping project locations quiet stops real estate prices from spiking before the company can purchase the needed land.Control Economic Incentive Talks: It allows companies to negotiate tax breaks, power grid allocations, and water usage rights away from public view.Controversies and Public PushbackLack of Transparency: Elected officials bound by an NDA cannot legally share details about massive energy demands, strain on local water resources, or tax subsidies with the citizens they represent.Growing Legal Pushback: Grassroots opposition and open-government lawsuits have forced some towns and states to release hidden NDAs.Policy Shifts: Due to intense public criticism, some developers like Microsoft have started pledging to phase out or limit the use of NDAs with local governments to build community trust. Lawmakers in several states have also introduced bills to ban or restrict public officials from signing them

 

[Davy Crockett]

I'd like to know when enough is enough as far as industry growth. like where and how faraway is the target point ?

It's already smarter than the people building it seems like it's starting to grow a mind of it's own, that's a scary thought.


The United States has between 3,000 and 4,500 operational data centers, depending on the database tracking criteria (such as Cloudscene or Pew Research Center). An estimated 1,500 to 1,700 new data center projects are currently planned, permitted, or under construction nationwide to support surging artificial intelligence and cloud computing demands