R U A traditional or commercial christian?

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Are you a traditional Christian and just started celebrating the true meaning of Christmas by putting up your tree last night or today and celebrate the 12 days of Christmas the way a true Christian should thru jan 5?

Or are you one who is all about the superficial commercial aspect of the holiday and start the day after thanksgiving and done and torn down tomorrow?

I pose this to all of my so called super Christian friends and relatives to make them think a bit.
Just the way I roll.
 


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This should be fun. Can say I know absolutely nobody that does that. I see this as the people who go to church every Sunday are better than those that don't. I can pray to god on lake Oahe just the same as sitting in a church. If churches were not so financially driven I might feel different. It's all about big fancy churches big house for priest/pastor and all taxes free at that.
 

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This should be fun. Can say I know absolutely nobody that does that. I see this as the people who go to church every Sunday are better than those that don't. I can pray to god on lake Oahe just the same as sitting in a church. If churches were not so financially driven I might feel different. It's all about big fancy churches big house for priest/pastor and all taxes free at that.

You do realize the only way a church can operate is through member donation. No donation no church. The electricity isn't magically paid for, nor is water, wages, etc., etc. I have also never been to a church that forces its members to pay. All they can do is ask, which is what they do.

Wild and free, can you clarify to me what a true Christian is please?
 

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I guess I'll find out my approval rating when I meet Him. I don't cotton much to men's judgement on how I should worship to Lord.
 
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You do realize the only way a church can operate is through member donation. No donation no church. The electricity isn't magically paid for, nor is water, wages, etc., etc. I have also never been to a church that forces its members to pay. All they can do is ask, which is what they do.

Wild and free, can you clarify to me what a true Christian is please?

That is not my point. Big houses sending kids to private schools building g big gaudy churches is not laying for electricity. Look at how many billions the Catholic church is worth so paying bills is not an issue. They don't require but you are hounded with letters and phone calls. I don't even belong to the Catholic church here and got a weekly letter that they need more money for construction of church addition. It gets tire some. As svn has pointed I care little how man judges me as there is only one that matters. Church is just as much if a status show for people as it is going to get right with God. It is more a less a business at this point in time and should pay taxes as such.
 


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Yes the Catholic church is in a whole nother league.
 

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Are you a traditional Christian and just started celebrating the true meaning of Christmas by putting up your tree last night or today and celebrate the 12 days of Christmas the way a true Christian should thru jan 5?

Or are you one who is all about the superficial commercial aspect of the holiday and start the day after thanksgiving and done and torn down tomorrow?

I pose this to all of my so called super Christian friends and relatives to make them think a bit.
Just the way I roll.

My vote for dumbest and most instigating post of the month.
 

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I did it because the flying spaghetti monster said to. And because I guess children kind of enjoy christmas. Speaking of superficial. A religion based upon...........Based upon...............Ya


Superficial: appearing to be true or real only until examined more closely.
 
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We put the tree up a couple weeks ago, and will take it down next weekend.
I am a life long christain, raised catholic, attended catholic school until 8th grade, babtised all my kids in the Lutheran Church, attend church rather regularly, and donate what we can to it.
I enjoy the service and having faith has made me and my family better people. If anyone wants to be against it or not wanting to believe, that is up to themselves, the same as it is for me too believe.
Nothing bad comes from prayer, and living a christain conservative life.
God bless America.
 

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You do realize the only way a church can operate is through member donation. No donation no church. The electricity isn't magically paid for, nor is water, wages, etc., etc. I have also never been to a church that forces its members to pay. All they can do is ask, which is what they do.

Wild and free, can you clarify to me what a true Christian is please?

I wonder if Sluggo will chime in his avatar is a Jesus Fish. He maybe able to tell you from his experience. Johnr is your wife Lutheran? Which would make since why you would have baptized your children in the Lutheran Church. Also this article is about the War on Christmas

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/war-on-christmas-history-immigrants/421863/
 


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My vote for dumbest and most instigating post of the month.

Ha ha yeah it probably was. :;:lame

Maybe we need to add or combine religios and political topics into the same category so folks don't get offended if they do not want to see it in the general board, I thought about putting it in the politics forum where it would be better suited I guess.
After all Religion is pretty much all political anymore, the new Pope has said so many times.
Not to be confused with faith and spirituality now days.

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My mother is Lutheran she didn't change her church when my father and her married. Dad raised us kids in the Catholic Church, when I married my wife we made the decision to raise our kids and ourselves in the Lutheran Church. Which in my limited studies of the bible is rather similar in their beliefs.
My personal opinion is just that, so if anyone feels otherwise that does not bother me, unless you are islamic muslims that I can't understand, or support a blind eye to.
 

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I just saw this thread as I was out of town celebrating Christmas with family. My family does not follow the 12 days of Christmas post Dec. 25 either. Truth be told, Jesus probably wasn't born on Dec. 25 anyway but the Catholic church decided many years ago that was the day we would recognize His birthday. Reminds me of the phrase "I am in this world but not of this world". I think God will give me a pass for not celebrating Jesus' birthday on exactly the right day or exactly the right way as long as I am giving Him honor and praise........daily. Heck, just the fact that this thread got started is my Christmas miracle.
 

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I just saw this thread as I was out of town celebrating Christmas with family. My family does not follow the 12 days of Christmas post Dec. 25 either. Truth be told, Jesus probably wasn't born on Dec. 25 anyway but the Catholic church decided many years ago that was the day we would recognize His birthday. Reminds me of the phrase "I am in this world but not of this world". I think God will give me a pass for not celebrating Jesus' birthday on exactly the right day or exactly the right way as long as I am giving Him honor and praise........daily. Heck, just the fact that this thread got started is my Christmas miracle.

Thank you for that you made my day
 

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We had a pastor once that chewed me out for not being in church every Sunday. I asked him where I was closer to God, could appreciate the creations of God, could find a spiritual connection to God, sitting in a church pew beside people that would screw you over for a dollar on Monday or sitting with a dog beside a slough waiting for a flock of northern green heads to cup their wings?

On the back of a horse, tagging a new born calf as geese flew over and the first robins of spring were sounding off as the warmth of the spring sun soaked into ones back, where would I better see and feel and know Gods grace and the miracles of what he can do.

Having said that, we also had a different pastor after that who I will always regret not sitting in a pew listening to him share his faith more than I did.

I am a poor Christian, I fail almost daily, but I have a strong faith. I do not deny my God nor my faith to others nor do I believe I have to model my faith in others eyes to achieve what my faith will provide my soul once we depart his world.

I have yet to meet a man who knows the true nature and intent of a another mans soul, only God and that man truly do.

My personal ideology on my faith and life comes from advice given me a long time ago.

At the end of the day, look in the mirror and ask the person you see if you lived your life as good as you could have that day. NEVER lie to the person looking back from the mirror. Understand some days the honest answer will be no, and when it is, accept that day is done and tomorrow lies ahead and try your best to live your life so you can answer yes more than no.

Some days it is hard to answer honestly. But my faith is that God understands and at the end of the run, my fate will be determined how he believes I lived my life, not how others on this earth think I did.
 


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Christianity is in decline in the United States because of the separation of faith in our children's daily life. According to a Pew Research Report released earlier this year, the percentage of the U.S. population that identifies as Christian has dropped from 78.4 percent in 2007 to 70.6 percent in 2014. Evangelical, Catholic, and mainline Protestant affiliations have all declined.
Meanwhile, 30 percent of Americans ages 18-29 list “none” as their religious affiliation (the figure for all ages is about 23 percent). Nearly 40 percent of Americans who have married since 2010 report that they are in “religiously mixed” marriages, which means that many individuals who profess Christianity are in families where not everyone does.
These changes are taking place for a constellation of reasons: greater secular education (college degrees), multiculturalism, shifting social mores, the secular space of consumer capitalism and celebrity culture, the sexual revolution (including feminism and LGBT equality), legal and constitutional changes (like the banning of prayer in public school, and the finding of a constitutional right to same-sex marriage), the breakdown of the nuclear family, the decline of certain forms of family and group identification, and the association of religion in general with nonsensical and outdated dogmas. The Pew report noted Americans are also changing religions more than in the past, and when they do so, they are more likely to move away from Christianity than toward it.
So while changes in public morals regarding women and LGBT people (and how the law treats them) are part of the overall shift, they are only one part of an immensely complicated set of factors—and I’m quite sure I’ve left out some of the most important ones. Probably the never-ending stream of sex scandals, from the Catholic clergy to the Duggar mess, haven’t helped either.


In other words, “religious liberty” is not merely a tactic: it is a sincerely held belief among the religious right, which, not coincidentally, feeds into the belief that we are living in the End Times—something an astonishing 77 percent of American evangelicals believe.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-scared-christianity-is-dying-in-america.html
 

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I did it because the flying spaghetti monster said to. And because I guess children kind of enjoy christmas. Speaking of superficial. A religion based upon...........Based upon...............Ya


Superficial: appearing to be true or real only until examined more closely.

A religion based upon.............faith.

[h=2]faith:[/h]
  • : strong belief or trust in someone or something

  • : belief in the existence of God : strong religious feelings or beliefs
 

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Christianity is in decline in the United States because of the separation of faith in our children's daily life. According to a Pew Research Report released earlier this year, the percentage of the U.S. population that identifies as Christian has dropped from 78.4 percent in 2007 to 70.6 percent in 2014. Evangelical, Catholic, and mainline Protestant affiliations have all declined.
Meanwhile, 30 percent of Americans ages 18-29 list “none” as their religious affiliation (the figure for all ages is about 23 percent). Nearly 40 percent of Americans who have married since 2010 report that they are in “religiously mixed” marriages, which means that many individuals who profess Christianity are in families where not everyone does.
These changes are taking place for a constellation of reasons: greater secular education (college degrees), multiculturalism, shifting social mores, the secular space of consumer capitalism and celebrity culture, the sexual revolution (including feminism and LGBT equality), legal and constitutional changes (like the banning of prayer in public school, and the finding of a constitutional right to same-sex marriage), the breakdown of the nuclear family, the decline of certain forms of family and group identification, and the association of religion in general with nonsensical and outdated dogmas. The Pew report noted Americans are also changing religions more than in the past, and when they do so, they are more likely to move away from Christianity than toward it.
So while changes in public morals regarding women and LGBT people (and how the law treats them) are part of the overall shift, they are only one part of an immensely complicated set of factors—and I’m quite sure I’ve left out some of the most important ones. Probably the never-ending stream of sex scandals, from the Catholic clergy to the Duggar mess, haven’t helped either.


In other words, “religious liberty” is not merely a tactic: it is a sincerely held belief among the religious right, which, not coincidentally, feeds into the belief that we are living in the End Times—something an astonishing 77 percent of American evangelicals believe.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-scared-christianity-is-dying-in-america.html

This is not a new trend, as society changes, so do the religions...tomorrow jesus, allah, and mohamed will be talked about just as Odin, Horus, and Zeus are today.
 

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I received a negative rep for my christain posts. Sorry to have upset whomever dislikes my faith, and turn the other check. Negative rep away.
 


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