Who is in favor of slot limits

[guywhofishes]

deleted post it was getting bad rep . You all won't see another report from me if this is what you think is bad rep worthy good bye. And who ever gives bad rep and your comment is "idiot" your moma didn't rais you right go slap her in the face

telling someone to go slap their mom in the face is just begging for more bad rep

 

[dean nelson]

Ok Dean think if you say 10 to 12 walleyes per female make it to big enough size. Of we could protect the females until they spawn think of how many more we could have. All of these fish coming up are trying to get up to spawn but are not being able too.

It doesn't work that way and what planet have you been on over the last few years? Please tell me your new to the area because if you have been here for years and still know so little about this system is almost criminal. This lake has a huge problem with over producing predators and loosing it's bait fish that leads to stunted growth and outright death and population crash. It's a cycle that it has gone through for years and only now do we have a bit of hope to break it with the huge rise in warm water bait fish. Us nd guys need to appreciate the huge marsh that has formed from the badger bay/fort rice up to the gun range. That sucker is unbelievable good at raising baby fish of all types and is a big part of the reason why ND side is improving faster than the area down by the dam. Hell in this pic I'm in 6 feet of water and the nearest dry ground is the hills way off in the distance. The weeds you see are in anywhere from two to seven feet of water and covers thousands of acres including secondary areas of them down closer to cannonball.

 

[Vollmer]

So you guys are telling me all these people who are keeping these fat spawning walleye will not hurt out systems in the years to come

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looks like i am going to start keep the fat females they fill the freezer faster.

Instead of a slot, maybe you are thinking that the season should be closed during the spawn/pre-spawn? I would not be a fan of this for my own personal situation, however, it would likely be a good thing for the walleye populations.

Perhaps a slot during the spawn/pre-spawn would be a good thing?

I know that this topic has been beaten to death, and many people get quite heated over it, but maybe that's a good thing. This is still one of the most important discussions to have concerning our fisheries.

 

[iceeyes]

No not new to the area. I spend more time on the system than many ever will. I have fished through all of the cycles. Yes I agree the water levels and keeping are forage around is what depends on it all but this system could be managed to be a trophy fishery that's where it's frustrating.

 

[Vollmer]

And I will add this: Whoever was/is giving bad rep to riverfisher, iceeye, or anyone else for voicing their opinions IS A DISGRACE. EVERYONE has the right to speak out. That is what this site is for. Don't turn this site into the crap flinging shrite show the other site became.

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Disagreeing with someone's opinion is not grounds for bad rep.

Bringing up this topic is not grounds for bad rep. It is a very worthy discussion topic.

 

[huffranger]

 

[guywhofishes]

the missouri river system is doomed due to overfishing?

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guywhoisjealous

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and it concerns big walleyes or antlered beasts of some sort

 

[dean nelson]

No not new to the area. I spend more time on the system than many ever will. I have fished through all of the cycles. Yes I agree the water levels and keeping are forage around is what depends on it all but this system could be managed to be a trophy fishery that's where it's frustrating.

How about we manage it try to keep them alive first. If we didn't flush the fish through the dam we would have a trophy lake more then it already is. But you do realize having the most walleyes in the lake does not equate to having trophy walleyes in the lake they actually tend to work against each other.

 

[Account Deleted]

No not new to the area. I spend more time on the system than many ever will. I have fished through all of the cycles. Yes I agree the water levels and keeping are forage around is what depends on it all but this system could be managed to be a trophy fishery that's where it's frustrating.

What if I want an eatery rather than a trophery?

 

[guywhofishes]

What if I want an eatery rather than a trophery?

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[iceeyes]

Ok lets all pillage the system. Wipe it out. Oh wait it doesn't hurt the fishery to pull thousands upon thousands out.

 

[deleted_account]

Ok lets all pillage the system. Wipe it out. Oh wait it doesn't hurt the fishery to pull thousands upon thousands out.

good grief

 

[wildeyes]

We as fisherman have a right to fish the water we bought a fishing lic. for. as far as keeping all the 20" and better fish that's a personal decision. as far as that goes I don't keep fish over 20" no need. To may be people do it for (bragging rights) because I think they (20" or bigger) fish taste like carp. What has controlled the fish population COE. In the 90s when the fattys were happening.. the COE decided to (Flush) the river to open the channel because the river was shallow getting to be a (old river) anyway that flush wash bait fish out of the system and caused the system to crash. NO food no fish. Yea the system takes a lot of pressure this time of the year and a lot of fish get taking out. There are a lot of fish that spawn in the river and if every egg would hatch you wouldn't have bait fish to support them. I,ve always believed in C and R. I have yet to keep a fish over 20" this boat season. My personal decision. I hate people that keep every fish they catch and put in the freezer then throw half of them away because there old and freezer burned. I always have fish on hand never every throw any away because of this. I fish every weekend and also during the week I let a lot of fish go. I have nothing to prove to anybody. when it comes to a slot limit I like to compare Tobin lake and river back in the mid 90s caught a fair number of big fish and not so much to eat because of the slot. We need to support all stocking programs for North and South Dakota because they are the ones that keep the system going. The Corps. is the one that could give a S**t about the fishery because they are the ones who control the flooding most of the time.

 

[MSA]

Someone explain to me this "trophy fishery" some of you keep asking for? I caught a 13lb eye last year, and some over 8 every year....I think my opinion of a trophy fishery must be different because I think it has always been a trophy walleye fishery.

What do some of you honestly think the results of a slot in ND would be?

 

[johnr]

Ok lets all pillage the system. Wipe it out. Oh wait it doesn't hurt the fishery to pull thousands upon thousands out.

See now you are catching on.

sometimes it takes five pages, sometimes in GST and plainsmans case it takes 300 pages....haha


You are not ever going to fish the river out, it is not possible. The river can lose population or gain it dramatically from one year to another, but the fishing of it is not part of that equation.
P Gill netting is not fishing, or any other type of commercial fishing, which of course as of now is not applicable anyways.

 

[DirtyMike]

I don't know what broke all of a sudden to need fix. So confused as to how this issue arose.

 

[KDM]

Ok lets all pillage the system. Wipe it out. Oh wait it doesn't hurt the fishery to pull thousands upon thousands out.

Apparently you are choosing NOT to read any of the posts regarding the scientific research that shows a slot limit doesn't work, nor does taking thousands upon thousands of spawning walleyes out of a population, such as that of the Missouri river, negatively impact that population. You are choosing to ignore the fact that the walleyes currently being caught in the Missouri river system throughout SD and ND are but a minuscule fraction of a percent of the total walleye population currently spawning in the system. You are choosing to overlook the fact that for many years the walleye population in the Missouri River in ND has been subjected to year round fishing pressure and STILL produces not only limits of eater size walleyes, but trophy class fish as well. At this point, I can see talking to you is pointless as you are emotionally attached to your position and facts and research mean nothing, so from here on out your posts are nothing more than "Trolling" and I encourage everyone trying to educate iceeyes to stop feeding the troll. Have a great day!!

 

[MSA]

when was the last time the Missouri needed to be stocked?

 

[Captain Ahab]

More and more people practice a personal "slot" in their boat every year it seems. Some days I keep bigger fish, most days I don't. I don't knife many over 23" I can tell you that. If we reversed time about 30+ plus years you would have seen a lot more bigger fish knifed because a personal slot was rare. Most guys just cut up what they caught. There was no internet shaming or even much for cleaning station shaming in those days. I don't know anybody that wants to pillage a system or keep a bunch of big fish to destroy the fishery. The folks that usually don't have a personal slot are the folks that rarely fish. Those folks really only go out when the fishing is stupid easy and catch their fish. When fishing success subsides they don't fish. The guys that fish a lot are usually the ones that get upset when they see some novice so happy he is almost peeing himself because he caught a bigger limit of fish. He probably does that very rarely. The guy that fishes a lot, that can catch fish in most conditions catches hundreds if not thousands of fish every year and keeps way more fish over time. These guys need to take a look in the mirror and wonder who has more impact on fish numbers.

I don't envy the G&F's job on this. You have to manage for the masses when the people in the masses want different things.

 

[wildeyes]

I agree capt.Ahab. 100%