30 by 30

[Fritz the Cat]

There are some pretty big non-profits in this pond:

https://www.lsohc.leg.mn/FY2020/accomp_plans/index.html

Millions and Millions of dollars to acquire land in fee. Acquisitions of prairie/cropland are generally donated to Minnesota Department of Natural Resources. Acquisitions of wetlands are more often than not donated to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Is this a good idea? Use a sales tax on Minnesota consumers, then use the funds to buy land and then donate the land to the federal government?

It's in this section:

[h=3]Subd. 4. Wetlands[/h]4(a) Accelerating the Waterfowl Production Area Program - Phase XI
$5,631,000 the first year is to the commissioner of natural resources for an agreement with Pheasants Forever, in cooperation with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, to acquire lands in fee and to restore and enhance wetlands and grasslands to be designated and managed as waterfowl production areas in Minnesota. A list of proposed land acquisitions must be provided as part of the required accomplishment plan.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Millions and Millions of dollars to acquire land in fee. Acquisitions of prairie/cropland are generally donated to Minnesota Department of Natural Resources. Acquisitions of wetlands are more often than not donated to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Is this a good idea?

That depends on how much land outfitters lease and farmers post. Years ago I would have thought it a terrible idea. Today it doesnt look so bad. I think the direction things are going will turn it into a good idea. The people who commercialized wildlife are directly to blame for what they complain about now. It's like quicksand, the more they kick and holler the deeper they sink. They shafted their friends and now they want support.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Ok, that is one yes to increase the federal estate. From PrairieGhost aka Plainsman aka Bruce Hanson aka former federal employee of the US Geological Survey and US Fish and Wildlife Service.

Anyone else?

 

[PrairieGhost]

And would that be a no from wildlife profiteer Dwight Grosz?

Edit: By the way I'm not a yes yet. As I explained it's dependent. If the American Land Council and groups like Farm Bureau keep advocating stealing our public land I will become a yes.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

There are no details on Biden's 30 by 30 plan yet. Maybe in April. If past Outdoor Heritage Fund programs and the Land Water Conservation Fund serve as a template then it will be a tax on oil lease and/or production. Minnesota's is a sales but I don't think it will be that because the Administration is talking about climate change and fossil fuels.

The amounts of money will bring together a lot of fellow travelers. In Feb. 2020 Pheasants Forever had their Fest in Minnesota. Guest speakers:

Land Tawney, President & CEO of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers: Tawney is one of the most dynamic speakers in the entire conservation world. We’re delighted to have BHA as a sponsoring partner of the Public Lands Pavilion and our Build a Wildlife Area campaign at this year’s event.

Your Minnesota Public Lands: Outdoor News’ Rob Drieslein will be moderating a session that includes Minnesota DNR Commissioner Sarah Strommen, State Representative Jamie Becker-Finn, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Project Leader Scott Glup, Clay County Commissioner Jenny Mongeau, and Pheasants Forever’s Eran Sandquist to discuss threats and opportunities to public lands in Minnesota.


In the original article post #1, Land Tawney and Patagonia Company met with Debra Haaland. Incidentally, Patagonia owner, Yvon Chouinard sued Trump in 2017.

Rep. Jamie Becker-Finn is seated on the Lessard-Sams Board, voting to grant the money. Pheasants Forever locates the private property desired. DNR Commissioner Sarah Strommen accepts the donation of cropland/rangeland and Scott Glup, US Fish and Wildlife Service can accept donations of wetlands.

If thousands upon thousands of private land are purchased and turned into public, how many more game and fish wardens will have to be hired? The US Fish and Wildlife Service is the only agency that can acquire and hold a perpetual easement. How many enforcement agents will have to be hired to make sure landowners are not violating terms of the split title? Who pays?

 

[JMF]

Land Tawney has one of those faces:

 

[guywhofishes]

Agreed.

His name alone ticks me off and I have no idea why.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

The organizers of this 30 by 30 plan were way more organized then I thought. Joe Biden was Inaugurated Jan. 20th and the Executive Order was signed Jan. 27th. However, the organizers had like 400 signatories to a letter of support dated Jan. 26th. A letter signed by Senators, Representatives and other government officials. A letter prepared by the League of Conservation Voters.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stat...den-administration_n_600f41c0c5b634dc373790be

At the bottom of the page a person can scroll through the signatories. Guywhofishes, can you guys in Fargo do something about your Senator Tim Mathern?

A clip:

The letter, organized by the left-leaning League of Conservation Voters, includes six specific actions that the signatories say should accompany the 30 by 30 goal, including upholding Native American tribal sovereignty and supporting local and private landowner conservation efforts.


Earlier I said they always try to give the impression that they have a gymnasium full of supporters and resistance is futile. They are well organized and use the same methods over and over to fool people. So who is the non-profit League of Conservation Voters? Montana has one. This is their executive Director:

[h=2]Whitney Tawney[/h][h=4]EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR | BOZEMAN[/h]Whitney Tawney joined MCV in September 2018 as the Program Director, became Deputy Director June 2019 and Executive Director January 2021. A fifth-generation Montanan, Whitney returned to Montana after working a decade on conservation issues in Washington, DC, where she most recently was the Senior Water Policy Advisor for Ducks Unlimited. During her tenure in DC, Whitney also worked for Senator Max Baucus and the Western Conservation Foundation to build new leaders for the West’s land, water and air. Whitney enjoys anything outside with her husband Dan, son Henry and their black lab Woodley.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

When Biden was signing all those Executive Orders he paused on one and said, "I don't know what I am signing." Of course not. Organizations and people who funded Biden's election expect return on investment. It's their agenda. According to the article post #1, when Debra Haaland was nominated to the Department of the Interior she met with leading members of conservation orgs or Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and leading members of the Outdoor Industry or Patagonia and REI.

Leading members or leading contributors to Biden's election? The details to this 30 by 30 plan won't come out until April but it will probably look a lot like CARA or the Conservation and Reinvestment Act of 2000. At that time they wanted $40 Billion of oil lease money directed away from the US General Treasury into their coffers. And they wanted to buy land. CARA failed but in a compromise cara-lite was passed or the State Wildlife Grants Program. North Dakota Game and Fish receives about $600,000 annually. Here is what they spend it on:

https://gf.nd.gov/wildlife/swg

 

[Sum1]

when do we quit whining about it on social media, to our friends, to our spouses. what will be the call to action...

Well we sat back while they stole the election so don’t count on action ever being taken. If action wasn’t taken then it never will be. No point in even bitching about anything anymore. We gave it to them. Nobody to blame but ourselves.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Sum1,

Biden had 10 million more votes than Obama did eight years earlier. I don't believe the enthusiasm either. We didn't notice it here in ND but the democrats had one hellava ground game in battle ground States.

Non-governmental non-profit orgs that helped deliver a Biden win will be rewarded. The League of Conservation Voters already had 400 Senators, Representative and other government officials supporting this 30 by 30 plan before Biden even signed it. A panel will be nominated to be in charge of the spending for conservation programs and purchasing of land to add to the federal estate. Winners and loser projects will have criteria considerations for climate change.

The democrats will stack the panel as surely as they would pack the Supreme Court. The panel will have to be diverse, gender, environmental justice, academia, indigenous organizations and conservation orgs like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.

If sportsmen believe a federal panel of nine (spit balling) to implement Biden's 30 by 30 plan will be impaneled by nine sportsmen, they will be mistaken.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Tune in tomorrow. March 25th. They may not talk about the 30 by 30 plan inside Executive Order 14008 because they don't have to roll that out just yet. But, maybe they will.


https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDOI/bulletins/2c7dae7



[h=1]Interior Department Announces Details for Public Forum on Federal Oil and Gas Program[/h]U.S. Department of the Interior sent this bulletin at 03/18/2021 12:24 PM EDT

Having trouble viewing this email? View it as a Web page.​ ​ ​ Date: Thursday, March 18, 2021 Contact: Interior_Press@ios.doi.gov​ ​ ​ [h=2]Interior Department Announces Details for Public Forum on Federal Oil and Gas Program[/h] WASHINGTON – The Interior Department today released additional information about the upcoming virtual forum regarding the federal oil and gas program, including the public’s viewing options and ability to submit written input to inform Interior’s review.​ ​ ​ The public forum is part of Interior’s comprehensive review of the federal oil and gas program as called for in Executive Order 14008 and will feature several panels to highlight perspectives from invited participants including industry representatives, labor and environmental justice organizations, natural resource advocates, Indigenous organizations, and other experts.    ​ ​ ​ DATE: Thursday, March 25, 2021​ ​ ​ TIME: 1:00 pm – 4:30 pm ET​ ​ ​ REGISTRATION:The forum will take place via Zoom Webinar. Anyone interested in viewing the forum may register via Zoom. A livestream of the event will also be available at doi.gov/events. The forum will be recorded and have live captions.​ ​ ​ The information gathered at the forum will help inform an interim report from the Department that will be completed in early summer. The report will include initial findings on the state of the federal conventional energy programs, as well as outline next steps and recommendations for the Department and Congress to improve stewardship of public lands and waters, create jobs, and build a just and equitable energy future.​ ​ ​ Members of the public can submit additional information through April 15 to inform Interior’s interim report at energyreview@ios.doi.gov.​ ​ ​ The agenda for the forum is below:​ ​ ​ 1:00 pm: Welcome and introductory remarks by Interior Secretary Deb Haaland and Interior leadership.​ ​ ​ 1:15 pm: Presentations by the Bureau of Ocean and Energy Management (BOEM) and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) on offshore and onshore oil and gas programs.​ ​ ​ 1:50 pm: Presentations and Q&A by invited individuals representing environmental justice and frontline communities, academia, oil and gas industry trade associations, Indigenous organizations, conservation organizations, and labor groups. A list of participants will be updated on Interior’s website as available.​ ​ ​ 4:30 pm: Adjourn​ ​ ​ In addition to the forum, the Interior Department is conducting extensive outreach to Members of Congress, Governors, Tribes, and other state and local elected leaders.​ ​ ​

 

[Fritz the Cat]

That is 1:00 0'clock Eastern Time. So it starts at noon. Live stream:

doi.gov/events.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Back in March I went snowmobiling in West Yellowstone and had to read the BLM public forum. There was a mere mention of the 30 x 30 plan. The Biden Administration was supposed to roll it out at the end of April. They did not. They do not want to draw much attention to this.

The news outlets are slow but Fox had a fisherman and environmentalist on. Short clip:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6252926765001#sp=show-clips

 

[Rowdie]

Ok, that is one yes to increase the federal estate. From PrairieGhost aka Plainsman aka Bruce Hanson aka former federal employee of the US Geological Survey and US Fish and Wildlife Service.

Anyone else?

If it means MORE ACCESS to lands to hunt, I guess I'm for it.

 

[eyexer]

Yep me too. Especially after this electronic posting bullshit.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

The administration issued a report two days ago. It's an overview. Little substance.

https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/f...-and-restoring-america-the-beautiful-2021.pdf

I'll post a little blurb from the introduction:

Since before America’s founding, the health and productivity of the continent’s lands and waters supported an abundance of human life and activity. From the bounty of the Great Plains and vast coastal forests to the high deserts of the Southwest and beyond, Native peoples built some of the most enduring and advanced civilizations on Earth. Many hundreds of Indian Tribes lived sustainably on the lands for millennia.

The promise of arable and productive land fueled centuries of migration to America’s shores, bringing fortune-seekers and refugees who sought a better life, and also millions of women, men, and children who were captured and forced into generations of slavery and oppression. As the Industrial Age dawned, the new nation’s coal, oil, minerals, and timber powered fast-growing industries. America’s rich seas—and the cod, salmon, lobster, and other seafood they supplied—became the engine for the most productive and profitable fisheries on the planet. Farmers, ranchers, and forest owners have built vibrant rural economies that supply food and fiber to the world, while also developing strong and lasting stewardship traditions that are a proud corner stone of America’s conservation heritage.


Often, our nation’s lands and waters have been venues of struggle and injustice. For well over a century, the U.S. Government waged war against Native peoples, taking their lands, killing their sacred wildlife, implementing brutal assimilation policies, and making and breaking promises. The horrors of the Civil War are still etched in the American landscape, reminders of the costs and consequences of slavery, racism, and division.

Reading the above it occurred to me a recurring theme. Have read all this before. The North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. The damn market hunters shot all the wildlife and then the sodbusters tore the place to hell.

 

[Rowdie]

Well if the shoe fits. Oh and don't forget the Europeans built all their towns and cities right on major rivers and dumped their raw sewage right into them. The rivers in Europe were so polluted for so long people don't drink water over there. When I was in Germany in 1983 I watched a guy take his first drink of water.

 

[Allen]

Well if the shoe fits. Oh and don't forget the Europeans built all their towns and cities right on major rivers and dumped their raw sewage right into them. The rivers in Europe were so polluted for so long people don't drink water over there. When I was in Germany in 1983 I watched a guy take his first drink of water.

Right, I think those who drank beer (instead of water) had a longer life expectancy. Not only in Europe, but here in the U.S. as well. There used to be a heck of a lot of waterborne diseases that we rarely hear much about nowadays.

 

[Rowdie]

Right.....BUT AFTER they were polluted like in Europe.