Dam Bureaucrats!

[Fester]

Kdm said it best if there is money to be saved by cutting back federal government employees that is what i voted for. Bravo, you can whine and moan all you want,.if the government can run more efficiently with better component workers and still get the same results again I voted for that.

I think all federal employees need their wages reviewed also...i have a couple friends who work gov and are paid way more then they are worth...comes out of our pocket. I believe the dept of transporatation employees average around 110k. I am not against a good income but when tax payors are funding it they need to be within reason.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I think all federal employees need their wages reviewed also...i have a couple friends who work gov and are paid way more then they are worth...comes out of our pocket. I believe the dept of transporatation employees average around 110k. I am not against a good income but when tax payors are funding it they need to be within reason.

That is why I put component in my post, it should easy to shit can federal government workers the same way it is with the private sector.

 

[bravo]

Wages are public info. WAPA electricians in Bismarck make $50.62/hr. Where I work they make 55-61 depending on step. It’s not even worth discussing if you’re just going to spout lies. If you could have balanced power, lower Missouri barge traffic, and predicted the future runoff and storm systems that nobody else in the world could in 2011, why aren’t you working one of these easy, high paying jobs?

 

[Fester]

Wages are public info. WAPA electricians in Bismarck make $50.62/hr. Where I work they make 55-61 depending on step. It’s not even worth discussing if you’re just going to spout lies. If you could have balanced power, lower Missouri barge traffic, and predicted the future runoff and storm systems that nobody else in the world could in 2011, why aren’t you working one of these easy, high paying jobs?

Sooooo 100k per year...how is that a lie? Average electrcian in ND is $34 an hour...point proven. And to answer your question...i make more why would i take a pay cut?? This is kind of funny....

 

[bravo]

Sooooo 100k per year...how is that a lie? Average electrcian in ND is $34 an hour...point proven. And to answer your question...i make more why would i take a pay cut?? This is kind of funny....

Not accurate. Journeymen anywhere in the state start over 40/hr. And compare by similar industry if you want to have a serious discussion. That’s like saying a brain surgeon and chiropractor have the same average salary since they’re both doctors. Bye.

 

[Fester]

Not accurate. Journeymen anywhere in the state start over 40/hr. And compare by similar industry if you want to have a serious discussion. That’s like saying a brain surgeon and chiropractor have the same average salary since they’re both doctors. Bye.

Umm cherry picking union work...the AVERAGE is $34..look it up. Why i should have ignored you..BIASED is never worth the argument and will never sway the view..

 

[Kurtr]

You think the only meter in a powerhouse is a lake level meter? There’s private hydro out there as well. And private power utilities have a stake in the Garrison dam’s output as well, keeping your bills down. Room temperature IQ’s willing to bite the hand that feeds just to prove their republican-ness.

Tell me, what would you have done differently in 2011?

I believe that year was Mother Nature reminding everyone who is really in charge. I’m no fan of the coe but if they would have let enough water out and then not got 30 inches of rain in Montana it would have been a holy shit storm draining the lake during spring spawn. It was a no win and reminded people they want to live by water it might fuck your life up.

 

[Vollmer]

I believe that year was Mother Nature reminding everyone who is really in charge. I’m no fan of the coe but if they would have let enough water out and then not got 30 inches of rain in Montana it would have been a holy shit storm draining the lake during spring spawn. It was a no win and reminded people they want to live by water it might fuck your life up.

Yup. Mother nature always wins.
It’ll wipe out the “flood control” that Minot installed too. Just a matter of time.

 

[Traxion]

Better question is, if they cut the dam staff, who will we ask to find out where to get some dam bait?

 

[Obi-Wan]

You think the only meter in a powerhouse is a lake level meter? There’s private hydro out there as well. And private power utilities have a stake in the Garrison dam’s output as well, keeping your bills down. Room temperature IQ’s willing to bite the hand that feeds just to prove their republican-ness.

Tell me, what would you have done differently in 2011?

Listen to those on the ground.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was warned by multiple sources early in the year that major flooding was likely on the Missouri River.

But by the time officials moved to "evacuate" upstream reservoirs in anticipation of snowmelt, they were hampered by downstream flooding that prevented them from releasing more water, internal emails show.

In January, corps officials were aware of above-average snowpacks in the Rocky Mountains. And they had National Weather Service reports showing that soil conditions had water saturations as high as 99 percent in much of the Dakotas and Montana.

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...x-river-missouri-river-2011-flood/3245108002/

if I’m not mistaken instead of increasing the releases earlier they did the opposite and lowered the releases from garrison to around 7000 around feb/march.

 

[woodduck30]

Wages are public info. WAPA electricians in Bismarck make $50.62/hr. Where I work they make 55-61 depending on step. It’s not even worth discussing if you’re just going to spout lies. If you could have balanced power, lower Missouri barge traffic, and predicted the future runoff and storm systems that nobody else in the world could in 2011, why aren’t you working one of these easy, high paying jobs?

This is absolutely false. Assuming you are talking about substation electrician. WAPA pays considerably more than $50 an hour.

Wapa usually pays the most in our area in most classifications. And usually it's considerably more.

 

[Vollmer]

Listen to those on the ground.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was warned by multiple sources early in the year that major flooding was likely on the Missouri River.

But by the time officials moved to "evacuate" upstream reservoirs in anticipation of snowmelt, they were hampered by downstream flooding that prevented them from releasing more water, internal emails show.

In January, corps officials were aware of above-average snowpacks in the Rocky Mountains. And they had National Weather Service reports showing that soil conditions had water saturations as high as 99 percent in much of the Dakotas and Montana.

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...x-river-missouri-river-2011-flood/3245108002/

if I’m not mistaken instead of increasing the releases earlier they did the opposite and lowered the releases from garrison to around 7000 around feb/march.

Speaking of that. How’s the snowpack, in the mountains, this year?

 

[CatDaddy]

Speaking of that. How’s the snowpack, in the mountains, this year?

It's good to have you engaged and posting again Voll!

 

[Fester]

A guy i talked to from MT told me he felt its below normal..whatever that may be..nothing scientific.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Speaking of that. How’s the snowpack, in the mountains, this year?

 

[Allen]

Each dam has a level meter that indicates what the level of water is, I didn't even need to look that up because common sense would tell me that if a level meter isn't used someone should be fired. Also between the noaa and the army corp that would have an edumicated guess to tell you what to expect for any wet season. Don't piss on my leg and tell me the dam is going to burst, oh can someone tell me the last time a dam burst because some army corp engineer didn't predict a significant increase in rainfall. As far as maintenance is concerned it would be way cheaper to sub it out to private contractors if maintenance needs to be done. I am presuming that is probably the case already, because everyone knows the feds hate to get their hands dirty. I voted for this

Dude, I am just going to say that this country has several dam failures, or at least emergency operations at a dam each...and...every...year. It may not catch your attention when a dam gets obliterated in Nebraska, Michigan, or ????, but it happens every year for a number of reasons. We have several major dams in ND that are going to be undergoing repairs/upgrades in the coming years because of insufficiencies.

Absolutely amazing that anyone would write what you just put your name on.

https://npdp.stanford.edu/sites/def...p_dam_failure_summary_compilation_v1_2018.pdf

 

[Slappy]

"Critics warn staff cuts at federal agencies overseeing US dams could put public safety at risk"

The public safety risk would be much lower if governing bodies and individuals understood that the presence of a dam does not mean occupied structures can be built in the floodplain without consequences.

 

[bravo]

This is absolutely false. Assuming you are talking about substation electrician. WAPA pays considerably more than $50 an hour.

Wapa usually pays the most in our area in most classifications. And usually it's considerably more.

Straight from their most recent job announcement. Bismarck is in UPG or upper plains group. I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[bravo]

Dude, I am just going to say that this country has several dam failures, or at least emergency operations at a dam each...and...every...year. It may not catch your attention when a dam gets obliterated in Nebraska, Michigan, or ????, but it happens every year for a number of reasons. We have several major dams in ND that are going to be undergoing repairs/upgrades in the coming years because of insufficiencies.

Absolutely amazing that anyone would write what you just put your name on.

https://npdp.stanford.edu/sites/def...p_dam_failure_summary_compilation_v1_2018.pdf

Don’t bother.