Do you want the political topics in the activity stream sidebar?

[Vollmer]

Still doesn't clarify it to me because some could say that only governmental topics are political, to vague for me needs to be broken down for dumb people like me. Politics can be categorized as a debate over anything where someone thinks their team is better or that ndgf should keep lake Alice closed, farmers, slot limits, GMO, und vs ndsu, muslims vs christianity the list could go on. Vollmer what if the topic is categorized in the wrong forum and should of been post as political. Just a few questions

It is hard to categorize. I hear what you are saying. In the initial question, I was basically asking, in reference to the topics in the politics forum category.

I am not going to get too crazy about people categorizing things improperly, however, I hope that everyone tries to put things where they belong.

 

[Vollmer]

silly question... Any way to make it optional? I noticed you can expand and contract the current sidebar at right - just the other day for the first time (the double arrow thingy). Maybe make a politics sidebar that user can choose to expand or not?

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Or the single downarrows where you can choose which Banner (recent, videos, reports, recent w/politics)

I might be able to put a smaller sidebar (recent 3) below the main sidebar.

 

[gst]

Load em up. Page views are good. The users need to understand a successful site revolves around page views. By letting them show, it's good for the site, good for the few with a controllable intellect, and great for discussion. I'd fire every bullet possible as turning this site into a powerhouse authority outdoor site. The users have to use self control in whether they wish to view a topic. If you support big V in turning this site into the dominant site, let it happen. Political discussions are a good thing as they can relate to many outdoor topics. The others are for purely entertainment reasons, which we all need from time to time. Support the growth, let er buck guys. Your choice to click or not.

Edit: By adding this option, you're basically saying thank you to V for putting this site together. This will help his site. It will help him make working on this thing long term. As a way of saying ty, this is a great way of giving back to him. Time is money. Help him make this worth his time. Nobody's going to turn this into the next FBO, it ain't happening. Let's grow this puppy as big as we can. The more you help him, the more he helps us. At the very least, we owe him the ability to create more page views for this site. If you can't agree, I challenge you to make a better community. It ain't gunna happen. This is and will be the dominant site for years to come, with the help and a little self control from everybody. Do the right thing and allow it.

Edit again: FBO is old news, and so are the ways that brought that place to it's knees. There's nothing but a great group of guys here. Winters a coming, we need all the jargin we can to talk about. History is in the making guys, let's make sure this site is a force to be reckoned with for decades.

And If what everyone says about the rep deal is correct, the posters themselves should be able to control this from becoming another FBO or Nodak Outdoors.


I got to admit after thinking about it, I thought I would never bother giving anyone a "bad rep" point, but it may just be easier to do that when someone spouts off lies about stuff like farming instead of a 2500 word response full of links proving how they lied demanding they answer questions they will never answer.

Stop and think about how effective it would be to curtail crap like that if the bad rep points and why they were given were visable to all posters when you clicked on someones profile.

Heck maybe we could get to where bad rep points were give for bad bad rep. (easy, just kidding)

 

[cpete00]

No

 

[Enslow]

Try the all new prescription strength butthurt butter today!

 

[gst]

I might be able to put a smaller sidebar (recent 3) below the main sidebar.

That might even be too much for some.

Imagine someone sitting at their computer in their Vikings jersey and Twins boxers with their hand on the mouse and they scroll down and see a three item side bar with threads clearly named to be political. Their breathing quickens. Their hand starts shaking, their fore arm tightens and the arrow on their computer slooooowly starts drifting towards the side bar. As much as they try to stop it the arrow drifts closer and closer finally settles on a thread title. The sweat begins to form on their forehead, dripping down off the end of their nose onto the keyboard. Their breathing becomes shallow and rapid, the room starts to spin. The index finger starts to quiver and shake, the veins start to stand out on their hand, their mind cries "don't do it" but yet the finger, not listening, taps the mouse lightly a couple times finally hammering down clicking the button and opening the thread. A little voice inside them whispers, "welcome to the dark side". They scream nooooooooooooooooo and hang their head in resigned disappointment while sneaking a peak at the thread out of the corner of their eye.

Soon they are speed reading page after page of debate skipping over good valid points in their dazed quest to find key words such as liberal,commie,tea bagger. After reading 14 pages of arguing, eventually yelling at their computer, and throwing their soft squeezy Twins baseball across the room knocking over their third place punt, pass and kick trophy from glory days gone by, out of disappointment for their own weakness and lack of fortitude they post a snarky comment about political threads and those that post in them being bullies and then slink off to try and find comfort over their own inabilities with a twinkie, diet Coke and their cat. Eventually when that is not enough they turn to the brandy bottle, with each snifter it eats away and hours later at 2:45 AM they return to their demon thread posting those drunken ramblings that legends are made of.

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Try the all new prescription strength butthurt butter today!

You certainly have a thing with this stuff.

Perhaps the same company sells some "I should have realized it was only joking around" cream for that rash.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Try the all new prescription strength butthurt butter today!

Enslower comments like this is why nobody wants a political discussions, also racial slurs or inappropriate pictures of arrogant a$$hats that have no idea how these images effects moral and ethical values.

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That might even be too much for some.

Imagine someone sitting at their computer in their Vikings jersey and Twins boxers with their hand on the mouse and they scroll down and see a three item side bar with threads clearly named to be political. Their breathing quickens. Their hand starts shaking, their fore arm tightens and the arrow on their computer slooooowly starts drifting towards the side bar. As much as they try to stop it the arrow drifts closer and closer finally settles on a thread title. The sweat begins to form on their forehead, dripping down off the end of their nose onto the keyboard. Their breathing becomes shallow and rapid, the room starts to spin. The index finger starts to quiver and shake, the veins start to stand out on their hand, their mind cries "don't do it" but yet the finger, not listening, taps the mouse lightly a couple times finally hammering down clicking the button and opening the thread. A little voice inside them whispers, "welcome to the dark side". They scream nooooooooooooooooo and hang their head in resigned disappointment while sneaking a peak at the thread out of the corner of their eye.

Soon they are speed reading page after page of debate skipping over good valid points in their dazed quest to find key words such as liberal,commie,tea bagger. After reading 14 pages of arguing, eventually yelling at their computer, and throwing their soft squeezy Twins baseball across the room knocking over their third place punt, pass and kick trophy from glory days gone by, out of disappointment for their own weakness and lack of fortitude they post a snarky comment about political threads and those that post in them being bullies and then slink off to try and find comfort over their own inabilities with a twinkie, diet Coke and their cat. Eventually when that is not enough they turn to the brandy bottle, with each snifter it eats away and hours later at 2:45 AM they return to their demon thread posting those drunken ramblings that legends are made of.

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You certainly have a thing with this stuff.

Perhaps the same company sells some "I should have realized it was only joking around" cream for that rash.

LOL ;:;bowdown:;:thumbsup

 

[Buckaroo_Banzi]

Please don't feed the trolls !

 

[lunkerslayer]

That what's so awesome about the ignore feature and as well as negative rep system. These are the tools that will help to self moderate political discussions.

 

[deleted member]

I am for a political side bar. Hell... I guess I don't care one way or the other.

 

[raider]

some random thoughts on this...

after receiving bad whatever by posting a thread on this a while ago, i learned that there are a certain amount of purists that are absolutely dead set against this...

i find that i am more entertained by the hunting/fishing side of the sites...

i find that i learn more from the political/humanities side...

when boat shopping, i gave w central thousands of clicks, even though i rarely did anything else on that site... what could a fully developed kick ass classified section do for v???

lots of busy people prefer to go to one building (mall or walmart type) to check many boxes and save time...

amazon, apple, disney, google, harley davidson, hp, lotus cars, maglite, mattel, and yankee candle were all businesses started by regular people in their garages... without the revenues needed for a paycheck, and more r & d at some point, they would all be unknown today...

v has very quickly developed one of the best outdoors sites on the web for US... so, what can WE do to help him generate enough clicks so he can do it full time???

should we limit his capabilities by not having the restraint to stay out of things we don't like???

fbo became a cage match at the end, i think because there was little to no respect for ownership or management... i don't see that happening here, as everyone has respect for v...

sites like this take time... time away from family when also working a full time job... unfortunately, v is probably having to make that choice until it can pay the bills his job does now...

 

[MathewsZman]

It still comes down to the political section is already there . If you want to read it , go there . Quite simple really !

 

[WormWiggler]

Maybe another poll

1 no
2 yes
3 hot button link - maybe indicates how much activity is there
4 small side bar
5 individualized side bar
6 use group - I often forget about groups so not sure how this would work

 

[Brooks]

All the political junkies should start there own website where they can talk and argue about all the political bull shit they want. Instead the same thing will happen here like the last site. Not sure what's wrong with having an outdoor site stay an outdoor site. Same few guys from the last site that have to preach again and again and still offer no intellect into what this site is about. Not sure why Vollmer feels he needs to accommodate to these few guys when the other 99 % of the members are here for the right reasons.

 

[lunkerslayer]

All the political junkies should start there own website where they can talk and argue about all the political bull shit they want. Instead the same thing will happen here like the last site. Not sure what's wrong with having an outdoor site stay an outdoor site. Same few guys from the last site that have to preach again and again and still offer no intellect into what this site is about. Not sure why Vollmer feels he needs to accommodate to these few guys when the other 99 % of the members are here for the right reasons.

oK new guy break down what a outdoor site is based on the topics on the side bar. Tell me which post are(true) outdoors and what are the rest of the post pertaining to. Also, why is it that all the non outdoor topics get more replies.

 

[deleted___account]

People should be standing behind this site, rooting for it. When a site gets to a certain size, the hosting/server fees are more than you would ever imagine. We have a person here that has invested everything out of his own pocket to create a great site from time to endless dollars. Very funny situation, people call for less Government control all the time. See how this kind of relates to that? You're controlling the sites ability to generate revenue to keep the lights on and the ole mouse turning in the wheel. Needs to be a give take relationship here. You either support the site, and have its best interests on your brain, or you can go read nodak outdoors, and possibly click n laugh at FBO. The choice is yours obviously. I guess I could never myself dictate what a person is allowed to do to create a flow of operating money to provide a public service to the people of ND. Then again, I'm probably different than most. I like to see people succeed in life without limiting what they have to do to make ends meet. Be careful what you wish for, when operating costs become to much, you'll be back to playing silly facebook games and waiting for the next person to create a service for you at no cost.

 

[MathewsZman]

You just don't get it . No one is dictating anything . You want political discussion we have it right here . Go to political discussions , click on it and away you go . To simple ? V put up a political icon on the front page and be done with it .

 

[Fish whisperer]

People should be standing behind this site, rooting for it. When a site gets to a certain size, the hosting/server fees are more than you would ever imagine. We have a person here that has invested everything out of his own pocket to create a great site from time to endless dollars. Very funny situation, people call for less Government control all the time. See how this kind of relates to that? You're controlling the sites ability to generate revenue to keep the lights on and the ole mouse turning in the wheel. Needs to be a give take relationship here. You either support the site, and have its best interests on your brain, or you can go read nodak outdoors, and possibly click n laugh at FBO. The choice is yours obviously. I guess I could never myself dictate what a person is allowed to do to create a flow of operating money to provide a public service to the people of ND. Then again, I'm probably different than most. I like to see people succeed in life without limiting what they have to do to make ends meet. Be careful what you wish for, when operating costs become to much, you'll be back to playing silly facebook games and waiting for the next person to create a service for you at no cost.

yes but it isn't V that's asking to have the political threads put on the sidebar, it's one member who brought it up. V only asked our opinion. If it was costing him money I would hope he would present it to us in that way and it would probably have a different outcome as I think and hope the members on here want V to reap the rewards for his efforts.

 

[Enslow]

Politics will ruin the site. Plain and simple.

 

[guywhofishes]

How could an individialized drop-down or sidebar be a problem? It would add convenient tracking/access of politics for some, and keep politics invisible for the many.