Hunting 'Unposted' Private Land

[Maddog]

your 100% fails. I am a landowner ( only) who has had multiple issues with abuse of the law.
It's funny also some insist on your name being on the posted sign . I do abide by it but why do you feel a need to know us but by this law you are permitted to trespass on us unidentified?

There needs to be a site that one can post your own name when you are trespassing on posted land.

Problem solved.

 

[Maddog]

Is he Camper in disguise??

 

[Weaver]

So how do you feel about coyote hunters?

If a guy is driving down the road at daybreak in February and sees a coyote standing 100 yards off the road on your property, is he " ok" to shoot it?

Serious question.

I would say no. Regardless of the animal there. People post for many reasons. If you miss or it goes straight through how can you be sure kids aren't playing in the background or horses/cows etc. Or a person out for a morning walk and you just don't see them. You are responsible for that bullet and whatever happens afterwards so why take that chance?

 

[Weaver]

Offer to go out and help them. That will tell you if legit or not.
People these days very rarely answer their phones if numbers are not recognizable with all the telemarketing BS. Retrieval by permission has become almost impossible.
Have called a couple landowners for permission to hunt this year, haven't had a one of them answer the phone.

You simply aren't there 24/7 so when you come home and find them unexpectedly it's word against word . I understand permission is hard by phone sometimes so a part solution would be to get permission far ahead of hunting season by personal visits or letter etc. So there is a satisfactory solution to everyone debate on the subject should be heard by both landowners and hunters. We get better results when we work together to find solutions.

 

[Weaver]

Nobody does a thing about it. Metal signs made up with a signature line that is just a waste of space.

Not sure what you mean. A professional sign with clear legible lettering I think is best. Some of the signatures I see are not readable

 

[Weaver]

I think if you shoot a deer on land you have permission on and it runs across a fence you should let it rot and tear your tag up and throw it away. Coyotes and magpies gotta eat.

I don't. I think you should get land owner permission or if need be law enforcement if possible to establish merits

 

[Weaver]

I'm disappointed with that story weaver. It sounds like spite. Much like Biden sending long range weapons to the Ukrain and perhaps sparking WWIII. I sympathize with your problem, but am so disappointed with your response. It's close to you and the bad hunters deserve each other. Perhaps you shoukd get together and duke it out in the ring and leave everyone out of it.

I think it was more a matter of frustration on his part. He couldn't establish what he set out to do ( to actually assist the hunting community) and threw his hands up and quit.

 

[Weaver]

How about no simply because a grumpy landowner could say no to a perfectly law abiding hunter. And your law would take the right from the hunter to retrieve his game and give control to the government via punitive action.

I know this won’t sink in and your scenario is probably 100% made up, I just want other readers to see how the type of landowner [whiny, vindictive] who pushes legislation against hunters plays mental gymnastics. If it’s such a real problem, man up and confront this band of trespassing bandits, and call the sheriff.

Again a change request in the law is not an effort to punish the legal hunter it is to stop the abuse going on with it. We have the wounded deer story every game warden is sick of hearing and those who shoo over the fences onto posted land and are rewarded with a free right to retrieve. Nothing I have given as examples are made up as you say. Lets find a solution to cull that activity and help both parties.

 

[Weaver]

If landowners aren't happy with hunters retrieving wounded game on private land, post it with a no trespassing without permission signs. If you're worried about giving out your personal number buy a disposable phone to list so hunters can call that number to retrieve the game. It's really a matter of common sense, coming here and posting your frustration on an outdoor site isn't a good solution.

The law supersedes that type of posting

 

[Tymurrey]

So i have a scenario that i guess this could come into play with as well. I know its just a thought but a very real possibility. Let say someone does go into my property to retrieve game legally. I have no issue with that. But while they are in there they also scare out some game that i decide to shoot at not knowing they are there. I also have multiple targets set up within my property for shooting at. There is good backstops for them but there is a lot of areas in the property i couldn't see if someone was there without my knowledge. I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees.

 

[Trip McNeely]

So i have a scenario that i guess this could come into play with as well. I know its just a thought but a very real possibility. Let say someone does go into my property to retrieve game legally. I have no issue with that. But while they are in there they also scare out some game that i decide to shoot at not knowing they are there. I also have multiple targets set up within my property for shooting at. There is good backstops for them but there is a lot of areas in the property i couldn't see if someone was there without my knowledge. I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees.

That’s an issue with hunting in general…. You could even liken that scenario to golfing. If I cut the corner on a dog leg left what if there are people on the green? i believe it’s up to the person shooting to know what’s behind them. Hell what if you are hunting your own private land and a 5 year old child decided to wander away and get lost on your land and you accidentally shoot there direction We can play the scenario game all day long.You guys are reaching now. We can’t legislate for every “what if”

 

[woodduck30]

Put in the leg work and contact the land owner and have a conversation. If they say no, respect their wishes and move on.

But, if they have no contact info or refuse to answer the phone. Put in the work and find their tax address, find out their routine, do they have a place down south, and so on. Then adjust your hunting to the Intel you gathered

 

[Tymurrey]

That’s an issue with hunting in general…. You could even liken that scenario to golfing. If I cut the corner on a dog leg left what if there are people on the green? i believe it’s up to the person shooting to know what’s behind them. Hell what if you are hunting your own private land and a 5 year old child decided to wander away and get lost on your land and you accidentally shoot there direction We can play the scenario game all day long.You guys are reaching now. We can’t legislate for every “what if”

its not really a scenario when i've had it happen. I am not saying it's an issue really but who is at fault if something happens. If no one is supposed to be on my land then i know what is behind whatever i'm shooting at. I never once said to legislate anything in my post. More so a problem as a landowner and hunter that i've experienced that is a valid safety concern i feel. I more so posted that for others to hopefully realize there can be problems and make the effort to contact the landowner even if legally accessing land and you don't need to let them know.

 

[Obi-Wan]

So i have a scenario that i guess this could come into play with as well. I know its just a thought but a very real possibility. Let say someone does go into my property to retrieve game legally. I have no issue with that. But while they are in there they also scare out some game that i decide to shoot at not knowing they are there. I also have multiple targets set up within my property for shooting at. There is good backstops for them but there is a lot of areas in the property i couldn't see if someone was there without my knowledge. I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees.

When shooting on your land do your bullets magically stop at your property line or do they carry onto other private or public land?

Are you saying you are against hunters using a section line to access public land ? are you trying to keep the public land for your own person hunting ?

 

[Weaver]

So i have a scenario that i guess this could come into play with as well. I know its just a thought but a very real possibility. Let say someone does go into my property to retrieve game legally. I have no issue with that. But while they are in there they also scare out some game that i decide to shoot at not knowing they are there. I also have multiple targets set up within my property for shooting at. There is good backstops for them but there is a lot of areas in the property i couldn't see if someone was there without my knowledge. I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees.

I understand what you are saying. Scary situation for both you and the legal hunters as you have every right to hunt your property anytime you wish. Another reason I think landowners should be giving permission so you aren't caught unaware of hunters present. With that scenario they could run to the fence to retrieve their weapons and start shooting back not knowing what you are shooting at.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I understand what you are saying. Scary situation for both you and the legal hunters as you have every right to hunt your property anytime you wish. Another reason I think landowners should be giving permission so you aren't caught unaware of hunters present. With that scenario they could run to the fence to retrieve their weapons and start shooting back not knowing what you are shooting at.

I suppose you are now going to tell us this has happened to you. what color is the sky in your little make believe world that you live in.

 

[Tymurrey]

When shooting on your land do your bullets magically stop at your property line or do they carry onto other private or public land?

Are you saying you are against hunters using a section line to access public land ? are you trying to keep the public land for your own person hunting ?

I never once said that or close to that, not sure how the hell you got to that conclusion. Your problem with landowners is very apparent, you don't even know me, probably never talked to me to know my stance on any of that you just leap to conclusions. No the bullets don't always magically stop but i would say it's a hell of a lot more likely something could happen if someone is on my land or land i'm hunting without my knowledge. Yes they can legally access through the private land that is still private land. Just because you can access without letting landowners know doesn't mean you should or it's best practice.

 

[Trip McNeely]

its not really a scenario when i've had it happen. I am not saying it's an issue really but who is at fault if something happens. If no one is supposed to be on my land then i know what is behind whatever i'm shooting at. I never once said to legislate anything in my post. More so a problem as a landowner and hunter that i've experienced that is a valid safety concern i feel. I more so posted that for others to hopefully realize there can be problems and make the effort to contact the landowner even if legally accessing land and you don't need to let them know.

There can be and is a problem or danger with any and every system known to Man. mechanically, socially, economically etc….. we will never legislate a perfect scenario for every system. While this could potentially happen the likelyhood of it being a major problem across the board is very low. This could very easily happen on public land also. Do we need to let everyone know we will be tracking a deer there now too? Myself personally I would contact the landowner out of respect if I did need to go on their land for retrieving. But generally I try to drop the deer where they stand. Just me though. I have had to chase down a goose or two across fields that got winged but it’s pretty obvious what you doing when you are chasing a running goose across a pea field and probably more comical to passersby than threatening. I never touch the fucking corn though

 

[Kurtr]

I understand what you are saying. Scary situation for both you and the legal hunters as you have every right to hunt your property anytime you wish. Another reason I think landowners should be giving permission so you aren't caught unaware of hunters present. With that scenario they could run to the fence to retrieve their weapons and start shooting back not knowing what you are shooting at.

Damn shit is getting crazy up there. Gun fights breaking out in the middle of deer season. Sounds like a scene from lone survivor

 

[bravo]

There’s such thing as accidents. You wouldn’t be at fault. Tragic for sure if something happened. Do we need the government to step in and mandate nerf bullets? You are either living in a state of terrible paranoia or just need to admit you don’t want anyone around your land.