Hunting 'Unposted' Private Land

[Tymurrey]

There can be and is a problem or danger with any and every system known to Man. mechanically, socially, economically etc….. we will never legislate a perfect scenario for every system. While this could potentially happen the likelyhood of it being a major problem across the board is very low. This could very easily happen on public land also. Do we need to let everyone know we will be tracking a deer there now too? Myself personally I would contact the landowner out of respect if I did need to go on their land for retrieving. But generally I try to drop the deer where they stand. Just me though. I have had to chase down a goose or two across fields that got winged but it’s pretty obvious what you doing when you are chasing a running goose across a pea field and probably more comical to passersby than threatening. I never touch the fucking corn though

We used to party hunt for deer and had an orange army pushing draws, that shit got a little more dangerous than i liked. I don't want any more laws or regulations. I wasn't a fan of eposting either. Its just nice when some of the safety issues can be lessened. Public land is just that public you never know who will be where and i'm a way more cautious hunter when i'm on public land. I wish i could say that about others i've experienced out of state. Private land is an area i feel like there is a reasonable expectation that you should know who is there.

 

[Tymurrey]

There’s such thing as accidents. You wouldn’t be at fault. Tragic for sure if something happened. Do we need the government to step in and mandate nerf bullets? You are either living in a state of terrible paranoia or just need to admit you don’t want anyone around your land.

Neither actually, just nice as a landowner and hunter to know who is going to be where on the private land i hunt but you guys tend to put everything back on landowners being so greedy thats all you can see. If you could point out where i said that i wanted the gov to step in or any new laws or regulations or where i said people shouldn't access that land i would appreciate it or just admit you are projecting your feelings towards me as a landowner.

 

[Walleye_Chaser]

Your word against theirs and their simple statement “we are looking for a wounded deer “ gives them a pass. That’s the loophole
just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

If you find them out there with no weapons looking for "a wounded deer". Do you really think people would just walk your land to "push animals off it". I've never even considered doing something like that.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I never once said that or close to that, not sure how the hell you got to that conclusion. Your problem with landowners is very apparent, you don't even know me, probably never talked to me to know my stance on any of that you just leap to conclusions. No the bullets don't always magically stop but i would say it's a hell of a lot more likely something could happen if someone is on my land or land i'm hunting without my knowledge. Yes they can legally access through the private land that is still private land. Just because you can access without letting landowners know doesn't mean you should or it's best practice.

These are your words - " I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees. "

North Dakota Code 24-07-03 – Section lines considered public roads open for public travel​

I live rural Burleigh County and have never had one person stop to ask me if they can drive down the gravel road along side my property, which I do own to the center of the road. Just because they can access without letting me know doesn't mean they should or it's best practice.

 

[Tymurrey]

These are your words - " I've had this issue with hunting private land where people walk the section line to access state land. I don't know they are there and i'm watching the trees and draws and all of a sudden someone pops out of the trees. "

North Dakota Code 24-07-03 – Section lines considered public roads open for public travel​

I live rural Burleigh County and have never had one person stop to ask me if they can drive down the gravel road along side my property, which I do own to the center of the road. Just because they can access without letting me know doesn't mean they should or it's best practice.

Ok so where did i say they shouldn't do that. All i said is i've had the issue. Reading comprehension can go a long ways. I would say a fence line on a section line is a hell of a lot different than your gravel road.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Ok so where did i say they shouldn't do that. All i said is i've had the issue. Reading comprehension can go a long ways. I would say a fence line on a section line is a hell of a lot different than your gravel road.

Do I not own to the center of the section line ( road ) ? Do you not own to the center of section lines around your property. Why should yours be treated any different than mine ? State law doesn't differentiate between the two.

 

[Tymurrey]

Do I not own to the center of the section line ( road ) ? Do you not own to the center of section lines around your property. Why should yours be treated any different than mine ? State law doesn't differentiate between the two.

Yes you do but if you can’t tell that there is a difference between the two when it comes to hunting and expectations of public travel and likely hood of public travel I don’t know what to tell you. You didn’t answer about when I said that travel shouldn’t be allowed.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Do I not own to the center of the section line ( road ) ? Do you not own to the center of section lines around your property. Why should yours be treated any different than mine ? State law doesn't differentiate between the two.

33ft on either side of the center line is RRW from my understanding. Might be more or less based on road or any other improvements. It’s in the century code, cant recall off the top of my head

 

[lunkerslayer]

The law supersedes that type of posting

Yes it does, especially during hunting season, the fact of the matter though is it gives hunters an opportunity to respectfully engage in verbal communication to retrieve a wounded animal. You know the old saying you can't bake your cake and eat it to.

 

[Iwhackwheat]

Weaver, what would it take for you to realize this is your personal problem and not a statewide issue that needs laws to be changed? Maybe you should post about it on some type of public forum and see how many people agree with you and how many disagree. This would be a good start.

 

[Rowdie]

I don't. I think you should get land owner permission or if need be law enforcement if possible to establish merits

And if he says no, "Don't touch my corn" ?? then what?

 

[Obi-Wan]

Yes you do but if you can’t tell that there is a difference between the two when it comes to hunting and expectations of public travel and likely hood of public travel I don’t know what to tell you. You didn’t answer about when I said that travel shouldn’t be allowed.

my response was a question. I did answer go back and read # 305. your complaint in # 209 regarding section lines and people using them leads one to believe you do not like people using sections lines to access public property. # 297 you refer to people letting the land owner know they are using the section line ( just because you can access without letting landowners know doesn't mean you should ) This statement shows you think people should notify you before they use a public right away.

 

[measure-it]

This thread is nothing more than a BIG WEDGE between landowners and outdoors people(hunters, fishermen, photographers, hikers, etc.). The law is the law...except it as it is. Tresspass for retreival is a legitamet solution for both sides, with the law definig the limitations. Quit the bitching on both sides of the fence...pun intended!

 

[Tymurrey]

my response was a question. I did answer go back and read # 305. your complaint in # 209 regarding section lines and people using them leads one to believe you do not like people using sections lines to access public property. # 297 you refer to people letting the land owner know they are using the section line ( just because you can access without letting landowners know doesn't mean you should ) This statement shows you think people should notify you before they use a public right away.

So you are leading yourself to conclusions about me, not having any hard statements by me saying people shouldn’t be allowed to travel section lines. Do I feel people should let the landowner know as a common courtesy when traveling unimproved section lines. Yes I do. Do I feel they should let the landowner know when they are retrieving downed game…yes I do. I also know that’s not feasible or realistic all the time and some landowners I’m sure feel opposite of me. All I stated was something I’ve experienced and why I don’t like not knowing someone could be in an area of private land that I am hunting. I do think it’s funny though when these fights on the internet happen almost no one uses their real name.

 

[tikkalover]

Unless I missed something, I don't think there is a law requiring a person to notify the landowner when driving a section line.

Ty, do you have signs posted on section lines that go past your land, with your phone number on them, asking people to call you before driving down the section line?

 

[Tymurrey]

Mines eposted and the signs I have up used to be signed but the permanent marked eventually wore off and the cheap signs faded. I know there is no law and if someone doesn’t call that’s fine. It’s just a nice heads up. I think I probably came across as I get pissed when they don’t call or let me know. I don’t, I just like it better when they do. I think that is an ok opinion or feeling to have I think most people would agree. I understand the law and I’m not fighting that. It’s just nice as a landowner to have a heads up if possible. It worked out pretty good for one guy that did. Saved him a half mile of packing out a deer. Also I don’t worry as much because I don’t hunt that parcel for deer after EHD wiped almost everything out, that’s why I haven’t kept the posters up and just let eposting do its thing

 

[NDSportsman]

Put in the leg work and contact the land owner and have a conversation. If they say no, respect their wishes and move on.

But, if they have no contact info or refuse to answer the phone. Put in the work and find their tax address, find out their routine, do they have a place down south, and so on. Then adjust your hunting to the Intel you gathered

Fricking stalker.....

 

[bravo]

Neither actually, just nice as a landowner and hunter to know who is going to be where on the private land i hunt but you guys tend to put everything back on landowners being so greedy thats all you can see. If you could point out where i said that i wanted the gov to step in or any new laws or regulations or where i said people shouldn't access that land i would appreciate it or just admit you are projecting your feelings towards me as a landowner.

I am not projecting a thing since I am also a landowner. In fact, I have a piece adjoining public land that judging by the amount of tree stands I’ve seen right on the border, I’d be shocked if no one has ever dragged their deer off my land. No one has ever called, and if someone did I can’t imagine a single scenario where I would ever say no. You are of course entitled to reasonable privacy and the way things are right now, you have just that.

 

[Tymurrey]

I am not projecting a thing since I am also a landowner. In fact, I have a piece adjoining public land that judging by the amount of tree stands I’ve seen right on the border, I’d be shocked if no one has ever dragged their deer off my land. No one has ever called, and if someone did I can’t imagine a single scenario where I would ever say no. You are of course entitled to reasonable privacy and the way things are right now, you have just that.

I apologize for thinking your were projecting your feelings. I have no problem with anyone hunting the public land or using the law to get there. As I said sometimes a heads up is nice that someone is walking through mine which isn’t open country for a lot of it so not easy to see someone all the time to get there to hunt. A lot of people have contacted me and some don’t and that’s fine there is nothing that says they need to. I would more so be concerned about someone retrieving wounded game which could put them anywhere on the property and I really feel that is where a heads up should be warranted and more beneficial. I’ve never said no to those that have asked about retrieving deer in fact a lot of times if I’m around I’ll help them get to them. I think this has spiraled downhill a lot and unfortunately with a lot of things hunting I don’t see it getting any better.

 

[johnr]

Unless I missed something, I don't think there is a law requiring a person to notify the landowner when driving a section line.

Ty, do you have signs posted on section lines that go past your land, with your phone number on them, asking people to call you before driving down the section line?

Section lines are owned by all of us NDrs. You don't now or ever need permission to drive a section line. Nor can the adjacent land owner fence or gate off a section line, and if they crop it, you can drive through the crop, as they do not own that land.