M3, yea or nay?

Will you support M3 on election day?

  • Yea!

    Votes: 121 44.0%
  • Nay!

    Votes: 143 52.0%
  • I'm not voting...

    Votes: 11 4.0%

  • Total voters
    275
  • Poll closed .


PrairieGhost

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That legalization would take away the incentive for cartels
I predict the opposite.

My point was mj isn't a victimless crime like many say. Have we forgot the 19 year old kid face down in the Red River with a backpack full of rocks at Wahpeton? Not exactly victimless. If people were not using that crap he would be alive today. Sure it's his fault for selling it, but the demand was there. People who used prior to his death have blood in their bong because they created the demand.
 

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SMH PG, Besides people quitting to use weed can you think of anything that might have saved that boys life ?
 

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I think we should let it rest until the vote takes place. No matter what happens with the vote, I think the next discussion should be how do we all get our heads together and try to figure out how to put pressure on the right places to fix the medical that was massacred. This thread has definitely educated me on the medical massacre. Thank You guys for that!!

Fish On!
 

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Wow plainsman you just aren’t a cool cat at all. Please just go to a different site and leave us all alone.
 


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I predict the opposite.

My point was mj isn't a victimless crime like many say. Have we forgot the 19 year old kid face down in the Red River with a backpack full of rocks at Wahpeton? Not exactly victimless. If people were not using that crap he would be alive today. Sure it's his fault for selling it, but the demand was there. People who used prior to his death have blood in their bong because they created the demand.

since no one else will, i will waste a couple of minutes of my time and spell it out for you. you made this post and the earlier article about death at the border associated with drug cartels. whether you want to believe it or not, legalization gets rid of both of these issues (assuming the drug cartels were associated with pot which i assure you they are not).

the kid wouldn't be dead if the shit was legal. the cops convinced him that he was going to jail for a long time for selling some weed to someone he probably thought was a friend and the only way to save his future was to start wearing a wire and doing some controlled buys himself. his supplier(s) probably caught wind of it, shot him and threw him in the river with a bag of rocks on his back. first things.. he likely would not have gone to jail for this. probation and a deferred imp for a first time offender would have been the likely result had he gotten the right attorney and a reasonable state's attorney and/or judge on the other end. nonetheless... if legal, none of it would have transpired. he sold some pot to someone, got lied to by police, murdered by the "cartel" and now he is dead because of it.

if marijuana is their business, legalization of marijuana takes the cartels out of the marijuana business. they would have to move on to something else or someplace else. do you see a lot of budweiser cartels in your neck of the woods? lots of people ending up in the river with a hole in their head and a bag of rocks on their back for illegally trafficking in kentucky bourbon? reconsider your argument and then ask yourself why that is?
 

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Some people abuse weed. Some people abuse alcohol. Some people abuse glue, whipped cream cans, paint, markers......on and on and on. The vast majority would like to use MJ in a responsible matter. I wouldn't smoke weed while at work no more than I would sit here a sip on a flask of vodka.

My do the few people who can't control themselves have to ruin it for everybody? Screw that, if you can't handle it don't do it. But put the blame where it belongs, which would be on YOURSELF!

I predict it's going to lose this time around anyway. Next time it passes.
 

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PG, you need to stop and think about this. If marijuana was legal, this boy you speak of, Andrew Sadek, WOULD STILL BE ALIVE
 


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espringer you do have some points. However, it wasn't legal and people were still using it. Legal is a moot point. Maybe he would still be alive, maybe not. I also don't think you can say with certainty that the cartel will not be involved. They will simply be legally involved. It's going to be a rough ride if it happens. I'm sure it will not this time. Just for the sake of interest and not to argue it would be fun for us to guess the percentages. I'm guessing 60/40 against.

Some people abuse weed.
Yes and a lot more will abuse it when it's legal.

I think what gets me is I remember the 1960's. Conservative kids didn't smoke weed. It was the people who called the Viet Nam vets baby killers and the cops pigs. I simply don't like that it looks like they will win. It's like our politicians the republicans became liberals and the democrats became socialists. Now the people who are conservative today have the same arguments as those people did in the 1960's. What a downhill slide. I'm shocked so many are for this.
 

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Its a FREEDOM issue for me. I doubt that may more will abuse it than do now. In the end maybe even less.
 


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Just for the sake of interest and not to argue it would be fun for us to guess the percentages. I'm guessing 60/40 against.


Well that's a relief, Your predictions are almost always 180 degrees off . My prediction is 53/ 47 pass . Win or lose I'll be ready to say good game and shake hands and not blow smoke in your face once the votes have been counted.
 

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PG it just hard on us old guys, white I will add, to get any respect on here or at least some consideration for what we may say or do. They just want us to go the way of gst or gts not sure what his handled was as that was so long ago. But a GTS Plymouth was one hell of a muscle car. All Mopars were.

They just do not take our age and the aging process into account but in time they will. I can assure you of that PG. Time goes quick and before one knows it, one is old. Hope the pot for their sake will keep their brain sharp in their old age. Old Mill what did me in.

For me I need to decide if I can vote or not. That decision rest on how long my hunting and fishing license will be taken away if I vote.
Maybe some of the young ones on here can give me the answer to that. If only one year I think I will vote tomorrow and then arrow a deer tonight before I vote. For me fishing is done as it was the day I got my fishing license last spring. It gets to cold for the coyotes so other than sparrows with my daisy Red Ryder there in nothing left for the year.
Still have my Roy Rogers double holster set with matching RR cap guns to play with the grand kids. The younger ones love it. db-2

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PG one knows that in nam there were some mommies burn and babies kill. db

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I was there
 

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db, If there was ever a lesson that my parents taught me it was to respect my elders. I also respect my youngsters with the same passion. But, There has to be mutual respect or there are hurt feelings and people feel like they are getting picked on.

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It should be a good night for sticking a deer , The wildlife is on the move today. Happy hunting and good luck.
 
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How do we block people again? Had enough of plainsman after all these years.
 
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There is such a thing as respectfully disagreeing. I think we are being more respectful in this debate than our politicians are just in their daily conversations and I am sure glad about that.
 


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