Must feel real good

[db-2]

Chasentail, there are few that think like you and it is great to see. db

 

[Riggen&Jiggen]

It is completely stupid for them not to have a 10 run rule after the 4th or 5th inning. Baseball is a tough sport to tell the kids to back off. But as a coach you can pull your best pitcher and give reps to someone that needs them. Don't call bunts or steals, hold up when you could get extra bases. I would still have the kids swing away and get outs like normal. My youngest is in traveling basketball and if we get way up we tell the girls to slow down, pass the ball around and not to be so aggressive on defense. The girls understand and it does not hurt their development. There is always a right and wrong way to do something. I personally believe for a coach to keep the pedal down until the end at the elementary school level when they are destroying a team is ass hat behavior. At the same time if your getting your butt kicked by a great team that is showing good sportsmanship you don't have a right to be a ass hat yourself. You signed up for it and have to take the good with the bad.

 

[zoops]

I've been a coach for a few years and I feel that there is some validity to both sides. Yes, you want to win the game, and yes blow outs happen. In my humble opinion, though, is that every level under the varsity level (although an argument could be made that the varsity level is as well) is a developmental level. You don't know who is going to hit a late growth spurt, or whose coordination will finally catch up to them later than other athletes. Fundamentals is something that is lacking more and more at a younger age. Some coaches feel that if the 5th grade stud can score every chance he or she gets, then the game plan should be to get it to that player every possession. The problem with that mentality is that in doing that, you are only developing one player. Very few times has a stud player single-handedly given a coach a state trophy in a team sport. I've always believed in running drills, running plays, and rotating the bench early and often. Sure, you may not win them all, but if you are developing ALL your players, there's a better chance at success. Even if it may cost you a win or two along the way. And if you have a blowout win using all your players, it won't be because you were playing certain players and not others. Just my opinion.

Very well said. Problem is, everyone wants to win win win all the time.

 

[FreTgr88]

Lets just get a few things straight here: I am the "Coach" of this so called ALL STAR team and neither I or my assistant was at this tourney and neither were our kids.(There was only 6 kids from our team at this tourney not 8) There is roughly around 10 teams in Bismarck and for the most part most of these teams are school centered. These kids work there ASSES off!! We practice twice a week and try to do as many tourneys as possible thru out the year. On their freetime alot of these kids go to the gym and shoot around just for the love of the game. I am Sorry that you got a little BUTTHURT about the scores of the games but if you would know anything about 5th grade boys is that you can't just turn off there competitiveness and frankly I won't!! It is not our problem that when we sign up for these tourneys we get matched up against kids that have not practiced as much or kids that there parents won't take them to a gym and help them learn the game! And on another note I was told from the Coaches that they had told the boys that they had to make three passes before attempting to score and guess what everyone on the team scored every game!! So before you go venting about a 5th grade boys basketball team get your story STRAIGHT!!

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Raced motocross for years. Never once did I let off the gas for lapped riders.

 

[db-2]

My oh my, sports sure can be fun. When my third or forth grade kids started playing ball way back then it was a big thing to finally make a basket in a game. I think it toke one daughter 3 or 4 games for the team to do that.
For me way, way back then there was no grade school ball except sandlot.
Every spring got to play playday with the other schools, like kitten ball, three legged races, throwing the ball, red rover red rove, ect. Can not remember if I won any on those. I believe there was no coach to lead me on. So not sure if it made me better or not as a kid.
Somehow, something seems to be lost here. Maybe its a grown up thing. db

 

[CrankB8]

Lets just get a few things straight here: I am the "Coach" of this so called ALL STAR team and neither I or my assistant was at this tourney and neither were are kids.(There was only 6 kids from our team at this tourney not 8) There is roughly around 10 teams in Bismarck and for the most part most of these teams are school centered. These kids work there ASSES off!! We practice twice a week and try to do as many tourneys as possible thru out the year. On their freetime alot of these kids go to the gym and shoot around just for the love of the game. I am Sorry that you got a little BUTTHURT about the scores of the games but if you would know anything about 5th grade boys is that you can't just turn off there competitiveness and frankly I won't!! It is not our problem that when we sign up for these tourneys we get matched up against kids that have not practiced as much or kids that there parents won't take them to a gym and help them learn the game! And on another note I was told from the Coaches that they had told the boys that they had two make three passes before attempting to score and guess what everyone on the team scored every game!! So before you go venting about a 5th grade boys
basketball team get your story STRAIGHT!!

lije I said when I started this thread. You’ve got some really talented kids playing for you and like you said, you weren’t there. They beat NGS 50 something to like 8, then beat south border 60 something to 5 last time I looked at scoreboard and Edgeley put up around 12 to your teams high 60’s or low 70’s. Had you been there would you not have possibly told the boys to run motion all the way through till there’s a layup? There are ass kickings and there are shit kickings and I don’t feel like stepping on a 5th graders neck when down and then grinding your heel in at the end for good measure is doing anything for any of those boys out there on either side. You can’t honestly tell me that your players would think any less of their performances if they won by 3, 10, 15, or 35 points. At some point a coach has to tell himself at that level that hey, we’re not out here to make another team embarrassed to be on the court against us.

 

[Sum1]

Nothing wrong with being a winner. They always say “just go out there and have fun”. Personally I have never found much fun in loosing. You owe it to your team to try your hardest is how I was brought up.

 

[CrankB8]

Some of you guys never watched the 2nd half of “The Mighty Ducks” and it shows

 

[Kurtr]

Lets just get a few things straight here: I am the "Coach" of this so called ALL STAR team and neither I or my assistant was at this tourney and neither were are kids.(There was only 6 kids from our team at this tourney not 8) There is roughly around 10 teams in Bismarck and for the most part most of these teams are school centered. These kids work there ASSES off!! We practice twice a week and try to do as many tourneys as possible thru out the year. On their freetime alot of these kids go to the gym and shoot around just for the love of the game. I am Sorry that you got a little BUTTHURT about the scores of the games but if you would know anything about 5th grade boys is that you can't just turn off there competitiveness and frankly I won't!! It is not our problem that when we sign up for these tourneys we get matched up against kids that have not practiced as much or kids that there parents won't take them to a gym and help them learn the game! And on another note I was told from the Coaches that they had told the boys that they had to make three passes before attempting to score and guess what everyone on the team scored every game!! So before you go venting about a 5th grade boys basketball team get your story STRAIGHT!!

you have nothing to apologize for. We showed up to Bismarck and got whipped 55-14 never once did I think the other coach was doing anything wrong. Those kids that beat us put in a lot of time and played hard out worked our kids. They didn’t whine around went and lost the next game by five then won the next one. In the end they all want to come back next year for redemption me and the other coach have put lots of time in with the kids and they have put even more in and in the start if we lost by 20 it was a good game now tables have turned it’s hard to turn it off after they have endured multiple ass kickings it motivates them not to happen again.

 

[JackofSpades]

Lot of skills on that team. Only 6 kids, too. I’m glad they came to town, paid their fees and spent at the local diner. Next year, I hope we get even more teams to come! Thank you for hosting the event, Napoleon!

 

[Rowdie]

I'll bet the kids didn't mind getting blown out as much as the parents did. Kids at that age should be trying to get better and having fun.

 

[JackofSpades]

Chuck Norris doesn’t do push-ups. He presses down on the Earth and makes it move.

 

[Bfishn]

I have a feeling there are going to be some even bigger shit kickings at next years Napolean jamboree...haha

 

[Davy Crockett]

I just skimmed through the responses but there is no such thing as bad competition, If it doesn't kill you it will only make you stronger. Our kids played both Canadian and US Hockey leagues , Canadian games it was typical to get beat 15-2 or some crazy score. US games it was typical to win games on the same margin. They thrived off both ends of the spectrum.

No idea what all happened in the basketball games but It's not so much if you win or lose, It's how you play the game.

 

[FreTgr88]

Like I said I had talked to the parents and the coaches: and the coaches had told the boys (after the score was "run up") that they needed to make at least three passes before attempting to score-unless of course it was a wide open layup, but what coach in there right mind is going to tell a kid to not take a wide open layup? And as far as the "fast breaks": I teach the boys to deny the ball and if it is a bad pass they SHOULD steal it which would turn into a fast break. I guess my biggest issue is that you(the Uncle) are having such an issue towards my parents and that you would have the BALLS to bring their wives into the conversation!! And as far as coaching I am not in favor of purposely PISS POUNDING a team but I will be the last guy to tell my boys (in a Travelling Tourney) to just let the other team score because they do not have the same amount of time invested as our kids do!!!

 

[CrankB8]

I will apologize for making that remark about the coaches wife. Uncalled for and shouldn’t have been stated. No excuses.

your biggest issue is I’m only the uncle who has a strong opinion about how I saw the game being played. I was fortunate enough to have basketball year round and a gym open whenever I wanted. I played AAU ball and got to compete against a lot of D-1 players. But we never entered tournaments like this little jamboree because they were convenient or close to home to whoop up on even varsity level teams. In the end your prerogative is to coach these boys best you can and see fit, mine even as an uncle is to evaluate sportsmanship and play. Your team can play no doubt and your players have sportsmanship, my opinion is your coaching on that particular tournament had neither.
Prerogotives and opinions are like assholes - everybody has one

 

[CatDaddy]

My son's team was whooped more than once this year....yes, in 3rd grade traveling ball. I invested time, money, and emotion each step of the way. But when my son was beat and he wanted to blame the ref or the other team etc. etc. I challenged him to just BE BETTER. I pointed out what he did well along with what he could have done better. So many times we had a game in hand but didn't do the right things to win. Not someone else's fault. And yes, there was one team that was head-and-shoulders above everyone else. Some parents used the same excuses you do. And we come from a small school.....

I'd love a participation trophy, but wait....would I? Not at all. Earn it. That's the lesson I chose to teach my son. There's always next time, and if you work hard enough you can do it. That's the message I chose to deliver - without fail. Losing sucks. By a lot, even worse. So work harder!

My opinion only.......but I stand by it.

 

[Allen]

Loosing sucks especially getting blown out. If I were going to be pissed at someone I would point at the organizers for not making it a more competitive event.

Good point. The problem here is the Bismarck team, as a travel team, has its pick of how many 5th graders that tried out? They should beat the hell out of the small town teams where there may only be 10-15 boys of that age in the whole town.

 

[FreTgr88]

Nobody “Tried Out” for this team —only one team in Bismarck has had a “Tryout “ for their team