ND Deer Lottery Proposal

[Ruttin]

So after reading multiple threads on deer licenses and reductions I did some thinking about different licensing formats. One format I would like to see is for limiting the landowner tags (gratis) to a maximum of 50% of what is available in a unit. The remainder would be issued in the regular lottery.

For example a unit has 400 tags available. 200 are available for the landowner lottery and 200 are available for the regular lottery. I would also say landowners would have to pick what lottery they enter.

Any other formats you guys can think of? Chime in! It would also be nice to have at least a one year moratorium on a no whitetail doe harvest for all seasons.

 

[shorthairsrus]

I think the legislation needs to kick in funds from the rainy day fund to NDGF see if science kicks in vs worrying about $$. What is the unit just west of mandan ---- somebody needs to open those tags up wide - road kill about every mile. Gauntlet

 

[Jiffy]

I don’t know this for certain, but my theory in regards to reducing gratis tags is that the G&F wants to keep the landowners happy for land access reasons. Nevertheless, that doesn’t matter anymore IMO.

Pass the “everything is posted” law like SD and be done with it. It simply doesn’t matter anymore. There is a very tiny, tiny sliver of private land open anyway.

Who cares who it pisses off! I’d go further and take away gratis tags altogether. Or at least until/if numbers come back. Everyone is in the same lottery. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The days of preferential treatment is over.

I HIGHLY doubt that will ever happen though.

 

[Mike Fretty]

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So after reading multiple threads on deer licenses and reductions I did some thinking about different licensing formats. One format I would like to see is for limiting the landowner tags (gratis) to a maximum of 50% of what is available in a unit. The remainder would be issued in the regular lottery.

For example a unit has 400 tags available. 200 are available for the landowner lottery and 200 are available for the regular lottery. I would also say landowners would have to pick what lottery they enter.

Any other formats you guys can think of? Chime in! It would also be nice to have at least a one year moratorium on a no whitetail doe harvest for all seasons.

Limiting landowner tags would be a kick in the to landowners

 

[Ruttin]

I know limiting landowner tags would be something new to ND but needs to be looked at. I am not sure if the legislature would have to pass a law or if the G&F could do it administratively?

 

[Jiffy]

Enforcement of grandpa making a hell of a shot from the couch would also be a start. Don’t say it doesn’t happen.

 

[NDSportsman]

Eliminate gratis tags altogether. Everybody's in the same lottery. Only one tag per year allowed and you have to choose your season of choice, archery, gun or muzzy.

 

[eyexer]

Game and fish doesn’t deserve any money from anything but license sales since they wouldn’t speak out against the no trespass bill. You could see the results of this coming miles away. Game and fish budget was going to take it in the ass. But they wouldn’t listen. The gratis tag is very abused. I’d be on board with only 50% of tags in a unit for gratis.

 

[Lycanthrope]

landowners will hoot and holler if you do anything to touch gratis, ive been saying for years that it should be 640 acres to qualify, but what do I know...

 

[Iwhackwheat]

I think moose rifle season should be split or add a week in December. I want to see every tag filled and it might be easier if more of the corn and sunflowers are harvested.

 

[Shockwave]

This would have to be done via bill through legislation just like the 50% pronghorn tags. It would be interesting to find out how many landowners stopped letting people hunt for antelope after that bill passed.

 

[LBrandt]

In my unit 2G1 there were more gratis tag applications than there was tags available. LB

 

[Ruttin]

In my unit 2G1 there were more gratis tag applications than there was tags available. LB

Hence the reason for a change in the lottery system.

 

[Duckslayer100]

The whole "we can't touch gratis for fear of pissing off landowners" argument is just farting into the wind. That ship sailed the minute they made e-posting a thing.

North Dakota is no longer a freelance hunting mecca and we should treat it as such. Put money into creating habitat and procuring land for public use. Get rid of the PLOTS program and just start acquiring acreage for access.

Since North Dakota clearly hates socialism so much, we shouldn't be giving anybody money. Let's invest in the state for public use and treat gratis tags like everything else until the ship rights and deer abundancy rebounds appropriately to allow for more relaxed tag allotments.

 

[Pheasant 54]

In my unit 2G1 there were more gratis tag applications than there was tags available. LB

So do you think any landowners were denied a gratis tag ? My guess is not

 

[Ruttin]

So do you think any landowners were denied a gratis tag ? My guess is not

It sounds like in the eastern part of the state quite a few landowners were denied gratis tags.

 

[eyexer]

It sounds like in the eastern part of the state quite a few landowners were denied gratis tags.

I would think that’s due to far more owners per acre of land compared to the western 2/3.

 

[Ruttin]

Very well could be.

 

[andyb15]

How about limiting gratis tags to land owners whose land actually has habitat for deer. The core issue still come down to the fact that we have less habitat and are going to continue to have less deer and less deer tags.

 

[savage270]

In Wyoming you have to prove that so many animals are using your land to qualify for a landowner tag.

In Minnesota you have to let other people hunt on your property to get a landowner tag.

Both seem reasonable to me.