NDSU to the FBS???

[Migrator Man]

Been reading all the news about the Big 12 about to collapse and the top teams getting poached by the SEC and Big 10.

With potential openings in the G5 and the P4 about to pull away from the NCAA will we see NdSU move up to the FBS level such as the Mountain West Conference?

The Fargo media thinks it can happen, but is their an appetite to ditch their local rivals to join a league much further west? Can NDSU afford the travel expenses for not just the football team but for the rest of the athletic department?

It would be sweet to see P5 and G5 opponents playing in the Fargo dome but are the related parties ready to pony up $$$$$?????

 

[Auggie]

UND had travel budget issues in the Bigsky Conference. Granted a lot of their athletic funds go to hockey. But NDSU would need to up their athletic budget a good chunk to stand a chance at the next level.

 

[Rowdie]

The Big 12 would be a better fit IMO. They already have a solid program competing in it.

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Oh, and I firmly believe that if WY can field DI teams in every sport, so can ND, SD, & MT.

 

[That guy]

Until the g5 has their own playoffs bday will most likely stay in fcs. Hard to make money in the dollar general bowl.

 

[Allen]

I wonder how much extra in tuition and fees this would cost?

 

[shorthairsrus]

merger -- hawks now become the bison.

 

[zoops]

The Big 12 would be a better fit IMO. They already have a solid program competing in it.

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Oh, and I firmly believe that if WY can field DI teams in every sport, so can ND, SD, & MT.

I'm not an NDSU fan but it's clear they would do just fine in football in the Mountain west, etc. Their other sports would be fine as well. So much chaos in conferences lately that who's to say that conference won't break apart too? The Big 12 is likely toast. Is the juice of being a decent mid-level FBS team worth the squeeze of 10's of millions of dollars? Perhaps.

NDSU has probably had more success in the ~13 years they've been D1 than Wyoming has had in the last 30 (basketball, softball, baseball, etc).

 

[Retired Educator]

Could they compete? Based on the evidence of the last several games against FBS opponents I would have to say they could. But there are several other questions. Is their FB facility large enough for FBS? At one time wasn't there a minimum seating requirement for FBS, like in the 30,000 seating capacity range? It's not just the athletic budgets that go up in FBS. College presidents of FBS schools are paid more, professors of FBS schools expect higher pay, and for sure coaches at FBS schools expect more pay. There are more questions to be answered than just can the FB team compete. That answer is a pretty simple yes, but would the support be as high when all the other expenses needed to be successful also get higher?

 

[WormWiggler]

On the field NDSU would be fine, but other than that sounds like lots of issues to address. I don't know diddly squat about college football but in addressing the geography travel cost issue, could a new FBS conference be formed? the 4 dakota schools, 2 montana schools, etc?

 

[bigsky2]

I'm from MT and lived in Wyoming for a few years. It was really hard for me to get excited about Wyoming making a shitty bowl game, even after having a good season in the Mountain West. I'd much rather be an elite FCS program and get to play for championships every year.

 

[Rowdie]

I wish the NCAA would go to a 16 team playoff for the Natty title. Then have another 16 team playoff like the NIT in basketball. Scrap the shit bowl games.

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Oh, and look what Boise st has done at the D1 level in FB

 

[Migrator Man]

The Big 12 would be a better fit IMO. They already have a solid program competing in it.

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Oh, and I firmly believe that if WY can field DI teams in every sport, so can ND, SD, & MT.

Big 12 would be a better fit but it will no longer have a power status and will make the G5 a G6. Not sure what teams will even be left in it after the top teams are poached

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I'm not an NDSU fan but it's clear they would do just fine in football in the Mountain west, etc. Their other sports would be fine as well. So much chaos in conferences lately that who's to say that conference won't break apart too? The Big 12 is likely toast. Is the juice of being a decent mid-level FBS team worth the squeeze of 10's of millions of dollars? Perhaps.

NDSU has probably had more success in the ~13 years they've been D1 than Wyoming has had in the last 30 (basketball, softball, baseball, etc).

NDSU would already be in the Mountain West if it wasn’t so far away. They would be a top football team every year in that conference. The geographical distance wouldn’t affect football much but can you imagine having to travel that distance for all your sports teams? It’s the same problem as UND and the Big Sky

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On the field NDSU would be fine, but other than that sounds like lots of issues to address. I don't know diddly squat about college football but in addressing the geography travel cost issue, could a new FBS conference be formed? the 4 dakota schools, 2 montana schools, etc?

This is the best case scenario for when the P4 moves on and the G5 merges with the top FCS teams. Welcome back the old NCC!

 

[Rowdie]

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media...ld-a-new-stadium-for-FBS#.YRaRfALjX_0.twitter

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Sounds like a new stadium wouldn't be required.

 

[Allen]

They might need even less of a stadium if they go FBS and don't do well. Not going to watch NDSU thrash someone in quarter final games out of boringness is one thing, not going because you expect them to lose should be at least as big of a concern. How many bandwagon fans would slip out of regular attendance if they aren't as dominant of a force as people have grown to expect?

 

[NDSportsman]

They might need even less of a stadium if they go FBS and don't do well. Not going to watch NDSU thrash someone in quarter final games out of boringness is one thing, not going because you expect them to lose should be at least as big of a concern. How many bandwagon fans would slip out of regular attendance if they aren't as dominant of a force as people have grown to expect?

Still more than attend UND games.

 

[Allen]

While true, I'm not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China.

 

[camper]

It finally happened.

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

The Mountain West is the right conference if football does move up. That trip to Hawaii every few years would be a logistical and spendy bitch for NDSU, and if the damn games are televised it is usually 9 PM, but when Hawaii has a good team, its usually along the lines of 600 yards passing a game and they are a BALL to watch. Same with Air Force and their option game. They throw EVERYTHING at you, including the kitchen sink. The Air Force Academy is a $200 flight from Fargo or Jamestown to Denver and an hour drive south. What a great weekend that would make! UNLV plays at Allegiant Stadium that seats NFL crowds, so imagine jumping on a $200 flight to Las Vegas in Bismarck and watching the Bison play a road game in an NFL stadium in Vegas? I have not liked the idea for as long as it has been talked about, but I've come to realize that the move is inevitable. If we can accept the fact that NDSU football will NEVER win another national championship, it is going to be a lot of great football to watch. Throw in all of the UND fans that are losing their fucking minds right now, and it gets my thumbs up, but...
...I love football and NDSU. NDSU is doing things right. Seven men's sports and seven women's sports, all finally having competitive seasons on their own. I hope having to add 22 scholarships to one of fourteen sports does not upset that. Think about it, even though everything UND does is a shit show anyway, they moved to FCS from Dll and 8-9 years later were forced to drop one of the best women's hockey programs in the country. If the FBS football move affects any other NDSU team negatively, then it was the wrong move. Only time will tell.

 

[Migrator Man]

The Mountain West is the right conference if football does move up. That trip to Hawaii every few years would be a logistical and spendy bitch for NDSU, and if the damn games are televised it is usually 9 PM, but when Hawaii has a good team, its usually along the lines of 600 yards passing a game and they are a BALL to watch. Same with Air Force and their option game. They throw EVERYTHING at you, including the kitchen sink. The Air Force Academy is a $200 flight from Fargo or Jamestown to Denver and an hour drive south. What a great weekend that would make! UNLV plays at Allegiant Stadium that seats NFL crowds, so imagine jumping on a $200 flight to Las Vegas in Bismarck and watching the Bison play a road game in an NFL stadium in Vegas? I have not liked the idea for as long as it has been talked about, but I've come to realize that the move is inevitable. If we can accept the fact that NDSU football will NEVER win another national championship, it is going to be a lot of great football to watch. Throw in all of the UND fans that are losing their fucking minds right now, and it gets my thumbs up, but...
...I love football and NDSU. NDSU is doing things right. Seven men's sports and seven women's sports, all finally having competitive seasons on their own. I hope having to add 22 scholarships to one of fourteen sports does not upset that. Think about it, even though everything UND does is a shit show anyway, they moved to FCS from Dll and 8-9 years later were forced to drop one of the best women's hockey programs in the country. If the FBS football move affects any other NDSU team negatively, then it was the wrong move. Only time will tell.

You excited to watch those midnight NDSU games? nDSU now has the worst stadium in the MWC. Will they finally get the votes to upgrade the FargoDome or just build a new one? What women’s sport will NDSU now add?

 

[NDSportsman]

The Mountain West is the right conference if football does move up. That trip to Hawaii every few years would be a logistical and spendy bitch for NDSU, and if the damn games are televised it is usually 9 PM, but when Hawaii has a good team, its usually along the lines of 600 yards passing a game and they are a BALL to watch. Same with Air Force and their option game. They throw EVERYTHING at you, including the kitchen sink. The Air Force Academy is a $200 flight from Fargo or Jamestown to Denver and an hour drive south. What a great weekend that would make! UNLV plays at Allegiant Stadium that seats NFL crowds, so imagine jumping on a $200 flight to Las Vegas in Bismarck and watching the Bison play a road game in an NFL stadium in Vegas? I have not liked the idea for as long as it has been talked about, but I've come to realize that the move is inevitable. If we can accept the fact that NDSU football will NEVER win another national championship, it is going to be a lot of great football to watch. Throw in all of the UND fans that are losing their fucking minds right now, and it gets my thumbs up, but...
...I love football and NDSU. NDSU is doing things right. Seven men's sports and seven women's sports, all finally having competitive seasons on their own. I hope having to add 22 scholarships to one of fourteen sports does not upset that. Think about it, even though everything UND does is a shit show anyway, they moved to FCS from Dll and 8-9 years later were forced to drop one of the best women's hockey programs in the country. If the FBS football move affects any other NDSU team negatively, then it was the wrong move. Only time will tell.

NDSU's other sports will stay in the Summit League for now and nothing will effect them. They'll need to add a woman's sport like swimming and diving to meet title IX requirements which isn't a big deal. The late games will be troublesome but shouldn't be too many of those if they adjust the scheduling right. This is the best situation they could hope for just to get to the FBS level. If everything goes to plan they will have better options when the next realignment happens.