Pissed off Farmer

[Walleye_Chaser]

I can understand him being pissed losing money, but damn

 

[WormWiggler]

I would like to know details before hanging him by his junk. When I was a youngster I found a grain pile, about 20' diameter, 12' high. Not too odd but it was right by about 30 acres of willows and trees below a hill that had the farmers grain bins on it. Couple weeks later the deer had really made a dent in it. I always wondered what the hell they were thinking. It would have been pretty easy shooting from that hill. But they were not hunters. Kind of forgot about it, maybe they were feeding the deer or hiding the grain, just odd to me.

 

[zoops]

I can see if the guy's struggling to get by, the frustration would be understandable - not necessarily going this far though. Even if you do allow hunting, you're probably not going to allow everyone who comes into your farm yard to hunt amongst your cattle feedlot (often some of the best deer cover on the prairie) and in January those deer often come from miles from many landowners' land. Anybody have any firsthand experiences with this guy?

"Some reports have the number of dead and wounded deer as high as 29."......sounds sensationalized to me, as if it were a school shooting! I don't condone what he did, but really GF Herald? Then again, I'm not a farmer depending on grain stock....

This is from the FB post on the Game Wardens Assn. page - I wouldn't say that 29 is a sensationalized number, maybe more like an underestimation:
This is a case from this past winter that stretched across multiple months of investigative work and is still currently going through the court system.Pierce County near the town of Balta. This investigation began when Game Wardens received an anonymous report stating at a specific location just west of Balta that they had noticed quite a few dead deer around and it looked somewhat strange. Game Wardens drove by the area and found multiple dead deer carcasses in the area. A person of interest was located at this time working in the farmyard. Upon interviewing the individual about all of the carcasses that were scattered across the yard this individual, Daryl Klein, was found to be the suspect in shooting these animals.
It was determined that the shooting of the deer had been going on for some time based on the different stages of decomposition / scavenging of carcasses that were found. Wardens investigated the area and found deer that had died up to one half mile away with bullet wounds in them. Wardens picked up 29 carcasses around the farmstead and dispatched multiple deer that were wounded in the surrounding tree rows. All deer were brought to NDGF Laboratory in Bismarck for necropsies.

 

[guywhofishes]

he’s listed as administrator of the local wildlife club so it’s not like he has any excuses

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also - he’s was either purposefully being a shitty shot so they would go off property and die OR he sucks arse with a rifle

what an effing ghoul if the first guess is true

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Fuck this guy sideways with a 2x4.

 

[gst]

I'm surprised he didn't start a big enough fire to hide the evidence. What's the nearest refuge they can take over with their AR15's?

;:;banghead

 

[Obi-Wan]

Had a land owner S of Belfield that told us his neighbor would shoot deer with a 22 when they came into his hay yard. Said he used the 22 so the deer would run off and die. Not only did this old guy not let anyone hunthis land, not even the neighbor, he tried numerous times to chase us off national grassland that was between two of his sections.

 

[You]

;:;banghead

you almost earned my 1st thumbs up
A. you didn't write the next book in the new testament
B. my reaction was identical to yours it appears

regarding the thread topic, if the guy let's people hunt OFTEN, and he tried the g&f solution/service with limited or no success, then heck yea, shoot em all.

any deviation from the above......well, go after him bigly

 

[watson]

If this all turns out to be truthful I hope this piece of sh*t is hung by his sack

 

[Retired-Guy]

I thought that it was lawful for a farmer to destroy wildlife if they were damaging his feed supply as long as he just left them lay and did not actually take possession of them. Guess I am wrong.

 

[deactivated]

I thought that it was lawful for a farmer to destroy wildlife if they were damaging his feed supply as long as he just left them lay and did not actually take possession of them. Guess I am wrong.

I have to ask. Why would you think that?

 

[Account Deleted]

Sorry dude.

 

[BDub]

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Jason




[h=1]Dethloff sentence reinstated for killing deer[/h]

• By JENNY MICHAEL | Bismarck Tribune
• Oct 13, 2011

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A Burleigh County rancher who pleaded guilty to killing deer in his daughter's feedlot to keep them from damaging feed will spend four days in jail and pay $8,500 to the state.

William Dethloff, 69, had a second restitution hearing on Thursday in front of South Central District Judge Bruce Haskell, in which the judge reordered the same sentence and restitution he had handed down in January.

Harlan Kleppe of Kidder County and Bill Dethloff of Burleigh County entered conditional guilty pleas in separate cases to various misdemeanor charges related to shooting deer without licenses, which means they reserved their rights to appeal portions of the cases to the North Dakota Supreme Court. Kleppe pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful taking of big game in Kidder County, and Dethloff pleaded guilty to eight counts of unlawful taking of big game and nine counts of unlawful possession of big game animals in Burleigh County.


Both men entered the conditional guilty pleas after South Central District Judge Bruce Romanick, in Kleppe's case, and Haskell, in Dethloff's case, ruled that the crimes were "strict liability" offenses, meaning all prosecutors needed to prove their cases was that the men shot the deer. The men were not allowed to enter evidence that they believe justified their actions.

The men had sought to be allowed to present evidence to juries that they had suffered thousands of dollars in feed losses due to deer eating, urinating on and defecating on hay and other feed and that they had no other alternatives than to shoot the deer. Dethloff also argued restitution had been improperly set without Haskell hearing evidence of the value of the 17 killed deer.

While the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the men did not have the right to argue that they were justified in shooting the deer, it also ruled that Dethloff should get another day in court to argue the value of the deer.

Haskell had ordered restitution of $8,500, based on the statutory base value for a deer of $500. The Supreme Court ruled that evidence of the type, age and sex of the deer should have been considered, because some could have been worth more or less than $500.

In court on Thursday, Dethloff's attorneys, Daniel Oster and Robert Bolinske Jr., said they had stipulated that the 17 deer were worth $8,500 after going through them with prosecutors. However, they called Dethloff to the stand to speak about hardships he had faced that would make it difficult for him to pay the restitution.

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Dethloff said he has no ownership stake in a feedlot or a trucking company, which are now owned by his daughter. He lives off of a monthly Social Security check of $994. The Dethloff feedlot, where both Dethloff and his daughter, Julie Dethloff, lived in separate houses, was damaged by Missouri River flooding this summer, and Dethloff said he now has no place to live.

After the hearing, Julie Dethloff said she and her father have been staying with relatives, and she does not think the house her father formerly lived in will be habitable in the future. Her feedlot cannot be used for animals now due to a higher water table and contamination from flooding, her father said during the hearing.


Haskell said since Dethloff did not own any of the property, the flood damage would not change his ability to pay the restitution. The judge also would not reduce the number of days Dethloff has to serve in jail, saying Dethloff had been convicted previously of the same offense. Bolinske had argued that the number of days should be reduced or eliminated due to the hardships Dethloff had been through and health problems he is facing. Since the sentence was not reduced, Bolinske said Dethloff would serve it immediately.

The Legislature this year approved a bill allowing the Game and Fish Department director to authorize an emergency doe season during bad winters to ease deer depredation on farmers' hay stocks. Senate Bill 2227 also allows the department director to declare an emergency in areas affected by deer depredation and allows hunters with unused doe tags to shoot deer in those areas between Dec. 1 and Jan. 15.

The bill also provides for up to $1 million per biennium from the Game and Fish Department budget to be used for site-specific plans to help farmers and ranchers with chronic problems to "deer proof" hay and forage supplies and sets aside $100,000 per biennium to plant food plots on private lands to provide a food source for deer.

The Dethloffs and Kleppe were involved in lobbying the Legislature for the new laws. They have said they allowed more than 20 hunters a year on their 20 riverside acres, but the deer still crowded their feedlot north of Bismarck during bad winters

 

[Obi-Wan]

Long read but remember this guy N of Bis from 2010

http://www.agweek.com/business/agriculture/3788240-north-dakota-livestock-men-struggle-deer

 

[deleted member]

I don't agree with what he did. And I realize most of the statements are tongue in cheek. But, I think some of you lose track of the fact he wasn't killing people. It's deer murder. Not people murder. Fine the shit out of him. I'm thinking 1000 per deer. But, i ain't ready to cut off his genitals or hang him by his neck.

 

[ejolliffe]

I guess if you are frustrated enough to shoot that many, that you would at least be smart enough to pull them into your shop and have a sausage party! I mean a sausage making party. Ha. Ha. On a serious note, with as much snow as we had last year, a seasoned farmer would know and expect this to happen. Deer just trying to survive.