Property taxes

[Davy Crockett]

I remember the days before ND created a big tourism industry , those were good days. We went from last of the wild frontier with minimal traffic except for semi's on interstate , rail road brought supplies to small towns. Today we have a tourism group building a Presidential Library at the cost of $$$$$$ who knows how much for out of starters to come and look at. A failing business plan at it's best, a 100 year life expectancy building that will NEVER pay for itself . But hey, we have tax payers we can just make them pay for it.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Un-informed is no way to vote on anything.

Maybe yourself and others believing that Blackrock or other big investment firms would buy up farm land should have looked up the actual laws in ND and would have found out that they would not have met the criteria - it took me all of 2 seconds.
These criteria include having no more than 10 total members or shareholders, 51 percent or more ownership by active farmers or ranchers in an LLC, or 75 percent or more ownership by active farmers or ranchers in a corporation. Additionally, the land must be 100 percent owned by U.S. citizens, resident aliens, or authorized individuals, and the land must be actively owned and managed by the partners.

It was explained that initiated measures are not allowed come up with tax law as that is the job of the legislative branch as per the constitution, but are allowed to say what can't be taxed.

They changed it for bill gates what makes you think it wont change again? Then the measure was never supposed to pass since it was a cheap excuse for politicians to find out how much support there was for no tax on property.
People who own property have been paying taxes since the inception of this country, what really needs to be fixed is how our state and federal government waste our tax dollars. Repeal the obzoo affordable cares act would help remedy some needed tax relief because clearly its not working for middle class Americans.

 

[double account removed]

Un-informed is no way to vote on anything.

Maybe yourself and others believing that Blackrock or other big investment firms would buy up farm land should have looked up the actual laws in ND and would have found out that they would not have met the criteria - it took me all of 2 seconds.
These criteria include having no more than 10 total members or shareholders, 51 percent or more ownership by active farmers or ranchers in an LLC, or 75 percent or more ownership by active farmers or ranchers in a corporation. Additionally, the land must be 100 percent owned by U.S. citizens, resident aliens, or authorized individuals, and the land must be actively owned and managed by the partners.

It was explained that initiated measures are not allowed come up with tax law as that is the job of the legislative branch as per the constitution, but are allowed to say what can't be taxed.

hmm a lib would say maybe its u that needs some work on yer comprehension yer link only refers to large scale livestock production facilities nothin to do with farmin or buyin land

 

[Twitch]

I’ll see myself out of this thread…..holy hell. Don’t bother throwing that tea in the harbor and penning those founding documents boys they’re just gonna change em in the future….

 

[Obi-Wan]

They changed it for bill gates what makes you think it wont change again? Then the measure was never supposed to pass since it was a cheap excuse for politicians to find out how much support there was for no tax on property.
People who own property have been paying taxes since the inception of this country, what really needs to be fixed is how our state and federal government waste our tax dollars. Repeal the obzoo affordable cares act would help remedy some needed tax relief because clearly its not working for middle class Americans.

No laws were changed is was ruled that the Red River Trust which is a limited partnerships falls within the states restrictions.

 

[double account removed]

I’ll see myself out of this thread…..holy hell. Don’t bother throwing that tea in the harbor and penning those founding documents boys they’re just gonna change em in the future….

yeah maybe next time theyll learn u aint gonna get nothin done for the people of nd unless our oil railroad n ag corps get their big piece first this is the ND way deal with it libs

 

[Davy Crockett]

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Who the Top Property Taxpayers are in ND​

Posted on October 1, 2024 by Donnell
The North Dakota Association of Counties conducted research on the top 3 property taxpayers in each county. The findings are very informative. Here’s a summary:

• Of the 3 highest paying taxpayers in each county: Out-of-State companies pay 82% of the taxes.
• 77% of the 3 highest paying taxpayers are out-of-state companies.
• The 3 highest paying taxpayers in each county pay $90 million in taxes.
• The highest 3 taxpayers pay as much as 35.5% of all taxes billed (Oliver) to less than 2% (Cass).

 

[Davy Crockett]

Go full screen to see who pays the most taxes in your county. Most of them are out of state

 

[double account removed]

hmm nope davy crockett that should not b anyones concern if you have any apprehenshon about that measure or want clarification on any of it before permanent ink hits paper you are just in the tax me harder daddy group n thats that you just have to believe that rick and the boyz have your best interest in heart not the oil n railroad biz

sure i grew up benefitin from other fellas fundin my schools roads n civil services but I think its time we defund that stuff now that i dont feel like i have any skin in the game time fer it to go the way of the sage grouse

one last thing i think we all agree that our state representativs do a perfect job with money and put in lots of hard work to come up solutions to difficult questions n the fact that they would now be makin the decisions of where all the states money goes is somethin that would have worked much better than the current system especially since rick becker said there was no reason there couldnt be a new property tax put on yer house anyway and we could expect more specials which boot more old folks outta there homes than any property tax increase but hey get a job lol

 

[lunkerslayer]

No laws were changed is was ruled that the Red River Trust which is a limited partnerships falls within the states restrictions.

Come in obi its been changing constantly since the original act was passed in 1932, you think the trust isnt a loop hole meant to allow more people like bill gates to buy up more land especially if we had no properties taxes. You think nd would draw a line in the sand and stop more people like bill gates to buy land.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Come in obi its been changing constantly since the original act was passed in 1932, you think the trust isnt a loop hole meant to allow more people like bill gates to buy up more land especially if we had no properties taxes. You think nd would draw a line in the sand and stop more people like bill gates to buy land.

What's the difference if Bill Gates buys thousands of acres or farmer brown buys thousands of acres ? either way it keeps the little guy from buying land, small family farming has been dead for years

 

[lunkerslayer]

What's the difference if Bill Gates buys thousands of acres or farmer brown buys thousands of acres ? either way it keeps the little guy from buying land, small family farming has been dead for years

The difference and its huge is its not just farm land im referring to here, im also talking about property management buying up land to develop more housing and not paying taxes on that property. If you looked at daveys post the biggest contributor to property taxes are not even from this state. Like i daid before there is other ways to lower property taxes if yours is too high for your liking but lambasting me because i dont have a problem with my tax burdens because i dont feel there is enough information to prove to me where the money is coming from to offset that tax burden.

 

[lunkerslayer]

MINOT, N.D. (KMOT) - Minot’s proposed city budget for next year is out.

Overall spending will drop 6.4%, but homeowners could see a property tax increase that’s well over the state’s new cap of 3%.

A recent city council meeting prompted concern from one member about the rising tax burden and whether the city is breaking the law.

The Minot City Council adopted the preliminary budget and pay plan for 2026 at $211 million.

As it stands, that’s about $14 million less than this year.

But the proposal bumps the property tax levy up by $5.5 million, leaving council member Mike Blessum questioning finance director David Lakefield about how the city got to this number.

Blessum: “It’s your belief that it’s legal for us to levy $29.5 million on a base of $24 million last year?”

Lakefield: “Alderman Blessum, I think so. I’ve had conversations with the county auditor and others. Ultimately, that’s why when we started down this process, we wanted to have the state and everyone involved. Essentially, the directive we have been given is we need to consult our own attorneys or state attorneys to figure that out.”

For a home valued at $100,000, the city’s share of property taxes for the year would go up $83.25.

Blessum believes that if the budget is sent in, the city would be breaking the law.

“I’m virtually positive we’re doing exactly what they didn’t want us to do then. If you watched the discussions, if you watched the debate at the legislature, to me it was very clear what they’re intent was. If this is the loophole they left, it’s going to be an ugly, ugly process going forward,” said Blessum.

Lakefield explains how tax amounts can increase every year as flood control debt goes up, a loophole they are trying to avoid in the future by making this one-time increase.

I don't believe it. If they do it one time they will do it again.

“Instead of transferring sales tax into the general fund and then transferring from the general fund into the debt fund, the transfer is made to the general fund, and we levy for the debt in the debt fund,” said Lakefield.

The budget cannot be increased moving forward, but it can be lowered.

It’s important to note that, near the end of budget discussions last fall, the council voted to use reserve funds to offset property tax amounts.

Some council members who supported that move argued citizens were being overtaxed, while others shared concerns over using reserve funds for that purpose.

A public hearing will be held on Sept. 15 during the city council meeting.

The city would approve a final budget on Oct. 6.

The final version is due to Ward County by Oct. 10.

Obviously, state implemented laws mean nothing to the city of Minot.

There should be a way for someone to file a lawsuit declaring this to be against the law established by the nd legislation. Demonrats are great a suing the shit out of everything they dont like, its time the right does the same. Make it known, this is unacceptable, go back to the table and fix the numbers. Thats how you make changes on the local level

 

[Rowdie]

His words make perfect logical sense!!

 

[MSA]

I wish they'd stop calling it "property", and start calling it homes

 

[Bacon]

I wish they'd stop calling it "property", and start calling it homes

Or call it rentals cause all your doing is renting your property from the govt.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I wish they'd stop calling it "property", and start calling it homes

Call it what it is

• Extortion: The act of obtaining money or property through coercion or threats.
  
  

 

[Fester]

Rick Becker owns property on main street Bismarck. Some people made the accusation he was involved in order to save himself a million in taxes. Certainly, cannot allow that!!

He can afford the million in taxes..jeezus

 

[Fester]

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Who the Top Property Taxpayers are in ND​

Posted on October 1, 2024 by Donnell
The North Dakota Association of Counties conducted research on the top 3 property taxpayers in each county. The findings are very informative. Here’s a summary:

• Of the 3 highest paying taxpayers in each county: Out-of-State companies pay 82% of the taxes.
• 77% of the 3 highest paying taxpayers are out-of-state companies.
• The 3 highest paying taxpayers in each county pay $90 million in taxes.
• The highest 3 taxpayers pay as much as 35.5% of all taxes billed (Oliver) to less than 2% (Cass).

So frim this chart the rrsudent doesnt pay anything? I dont see where us peons have to pay......

 

[Fester]

The difference and its huge is its not just farm land im referring to here, im also talking about property management buying up land to develop more housing and not paying taxes on that property. If you looked at daveys post the biggest contributor to property taxes are not even from this state. Like i daid before there is other ways to lower property taxes if yours is too high for your liking but lambasting me because i dont have a problem with my tax burdens because i dont feel there is enough information to prove to me where the money is coming from to offset that tax burden.

Also seen realtor buy up a large number of lots in a development and instantly jack the prices frim 60k to 100-140k per lot. Walked away from one because if this. Literally was overnight....