SB2137

[Pigsticker]

I noticed you guys deleted my comment off of your facebook page regarding a section of your letter, so since you put your letter up on Nodak I’ll just respond here. Appreciate you guys partnering with FB on censorship, how Californian of you…

"The state has a property interest in all protected wildlife. This interest supports a civil action for damages for the unlawful destruction of wildlife by willful or grossly negligent act or omission."
Our fellow North Dakotans at the Game and Fish act as our trustees”

NDBHA…that is a great point, especially how it applies to our Game and Fish annihilating OVER 50 DEER utilizing sharp shooters, and wasting over 2,000 lbs of clean meat, only to have not one of those deer test positive for CWD.

I’ll say it louder for the people in the back…

Thats over 50 deer, a whole herd, belonging to the public trust, that were sent to a landfill to rot. Does that seem like a very “scientific” approach to management?

 

[BrockW]

I noticed you guys deleted my comment off of your facebook page regarding a section of your letter, so since you put your letter up on Nodak I’ll just respond here. Appreciate you guys partnering with FB on censorship, how Californian of you…

"The state has a property interest in all protected wildlife. This interest supports a civil action for damages for the unlawful destruction of wildlife by willful or grossly negligent act or omission."
Our fellow North Dakotans at the Game and Fish act as our trustees”

NDBHA…that is a great point, especially how it applies to our Game and Fish annihilating OVER 50 DEER utilizing sharp shooters, and wasting over 2,000 lbs of clean meat, only to have not one of those deer test positive for CWD.

I’ll say it louder for the people in the back…

Thats over 50 deer, a whole herd, belonging to the public trust, that were sent to a landfill to rot. Does that seem like a very “scientific” approach to management?

Hey Matt! We haven’t deleted a single comment. But we did have a duplicate post we deleted because of instagram and FB accounts syncing. So your comment might have been on the post we deleted. Sorry if that made you feel excluded or offended.

As far as censorship, that’s kind of funny you mention that, especially since for the last 2 years all of you guys have been hiding behind Dusty’s conspiracy page, which has basically blocked any person who disagrees or can refute the claims he makes. Now that is “laughable”….and very Californian of you all

 

[BrockW]

Does that seem like a very “scientific” approach to management?

In terms of “scientific” approach. I think the department admitted that they messed up in how they handled that incident.

However, at the time that happened there was no known positives in that location and they were concerned that somehow a hot spot popped up that wasn’t caught through surveillance. So the idea was to go in and remove deer in that local area in hope that if they did have a hot spot, they would stamp it out before it established itself. It’s worked in other places, so I don’t fault them for trying it.

But I do think it’s big of you to show such care and compassion for the deer. I would assume that means you’ll stop baiting and feeding so youre not contributing to the spread of a contagious and 100% fatal neurological disease within the deer herd. Atta boy, proud of you for prioritizing the resource!

 

[wct12]

I noticed you guys deleted my comment off of your facebook page regarding a section of your letter, so since you put your letter up on Nodak I’ll just respond here. Appreciate you guys partnering with FB on censorship, how Californian of you…

"The state has a property interest in all protected wildlife. This interest supports a civil action for damages for the unlawful destruction of wildlife by willful or grossly negligent act or omission."
Our fellow North Dakotans at the Game and Fish act as our trustees”

NDBHA…that is a great point, especially how it applies to our Game and Fish annihilating OVER 50 DEER utilizing sharp shooters, and wasting over 2,000 lbs of clean meat, only to have not one of those deer test positive for CWD.

I’ll say it louder for the people in the back…

Thats over 50 deer, a whole herd, belonging to the public trust, that were sent to a landfill to rot. Does that seem like a very “scientific” approach to management?

Wait until sportsmen realize the department is using them for culling now instead of wanting to get egg on their face again by doing It themselves which in turn just lowers their future opportunities once the population is pushed low enough/eradicated through these "culling" practices.

 

[BrockW]

Wait until sportsmen realize the department is using them for culling now instead of wanting to get egg on their face again by doing It themselves which in turn just lowers their future opportunities once the population is pushed low enough/eradicated through these "culling" practices.

It would be kind of strange if they don’t know that already. The department was pretty open about it from the get go.

 

[Zogman]

Actually it’s not uo to agencies to create laws. Somehow, someway we’ve let government agencies across all spectrums run the show. Only lawmakers can make laws. And when an agency starts to drift away from the will of the people it’s up to lawmakers to rein them in. Do you think the EPA should be creating laws?

Exactly. This is the same for our Federal agencies. It is NOT just spending that Musk and Vivek want to rein in but the all the regulations the Congress has NOT approved or even know about.

 

[wct12]

It would be kind of strange if they don’t know that already. The department was pretty open about it from the get go.

That doesn’t seem like pretty open and honest about using sportsmen to cull when the first sentence says “we do not allocate tags specifically for CWD culling.”

Saying you're more liberal with license allocations means that they are using sportsmen through increased license numbers to cull deer for them, all while having the first sentence say they don't.

Culling- "reduction of a wild animal population by selective slaughter."

 

[risingsun]

Chip off the ol block..

 

[wct12]

Chip off the ol block..

Hardly even 9 AM and a guy wants to make me feel all warm and fuzzy in side.. I'll respond as I can today guys. Going to go roll some bales out and push snow down to bean stubble for the deer herd thats by the farm! Thank God archery season is over, I can finally start supplementally feeding to help the deers herd health again!

 

[BrockW]

That doesn’t seem like pretty open and honest about using sportsmen to cull when the first sentence says “we do not allocate tags specifically for CWD culling.”

Saying you're more liberal with license allocations means that they are using sportsmen through increased license numbers to cull deer for them, all while having the first sentence say they don't.

Culling- "reduction of a wild animal population by selective slaughter."

Right from the CWD management plan. I don’t have time to find the media, but I believe Dr. Bahnson has also stated multiple times on multiple platforms that increased hunter harvest in those units is intended to keep populations at level less conducive to disease spread.

But hey, its your story, you can tell it how you want.

 

[bravo]

For a guy with all those acres, hundreds of deer in the hay yard, easy access to others’ land, and if I recall without searching you said you allowed hunters to take “100+” deer off your land (an amazing average of more than 1 per day), you helped countless people shoot 50”+ moose. Can’t really figure what’s worth bitching about.

 

[BrockW]

And another example.
https://gf.nd.gov/magazine/2020/oct/keeping-cwd-in-check

 

[BrockW]

And another example
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sp...cwd-management-plan-that-takes-effect-in-2023

 

[wct12]

Right from the CWD management plan. I don’t have time to find the media, but I believe Dr. Bahnson has also stated multiple times on multiple platforms that increased hunter harvest in those units is intended to keep populations at level less conducive to disease spread.

But hey, it’s your story, you can tell it how you want.

Charlie uses things like increased hunter harvest.. Not culling. Because one makes the department seem like they are following "good" protocols and 1 put egg on their face.

No matter how they state it, they are still culling without saying it. And it's taking away future opportunities from sportsmen driving the populations down.

 

[wct12]

For a guy with all those acres, hundreds of deer in the hay yard, easy access to others’ land, and if I recall without searching you said you allowed hunters to take “100+” deer off your land (an amazing average of more than 1 per day), you helped countless people shoot 50”+ moose. Can’t really figure what’s worth bitching about.

I think the number I stated was 70.. But ya, you could shoot a doe and 15 minutes later there would be 10 deer back. I think the record was 5 deer shot in under an hour by a family filling archery tags.. It was 70 deer in about 3-4 weeks if I remember correctly.

Hey look.. It's me with one of the ones I helped a buddy shoot! (Tags on his right digger)

Don't have a lot of things to bitch about in life, but government over reach and over regulation seems to come to the forefront quite a bit.