Shouse Building

[Wall-eyes]

If you have garbage people put it in. My father in law is on year ten and the system had paid for its self with out one single hick up. I know of 4 other systems in town with out a single problem heating and cooling for an average of 72 cents a day.

I have many friends with troubles I think whoever does it better know their shit. Neighbor has had nothing put troubles they had to come back in and drill the shit out of his yard again. Get something that is clean burning so don't stink up house and garage.

 

[Fester]

If you have garbage people put it in. My father in law is on year ten and the system had paid for its self with out one single hick up. I know of 4 other systems in town with out a single problem heating and cooling for an average of 72 cents a day.

How much do they normally cost to put in?

 

[Kurtr]

How much do they normally cost to put in?

It really depends on size and how many wells you need . I know father in law had three wells and new furnace and the whole word put in and it was 15 grand that was 10 years ago. He was spending about 4000 on fuel oil a year so it didn’t take long to pay for. His has natural gas if it needs an assist and it’s only came on once . House is set at 71 and it it just stays that way year round.

 

[Fester]

It really depends on size and how many wells you need . I know father in law had three wells and new furnace and the whole word put in and it was 15 grand that was 10 years ago. He was spending about 4000 on fuel oil a year so it didn’t take long to pay for. His has natural gas if it needs an assist and it’s only came on once . House is set at 71 and it it just stays that way year round.

Wow thanks for the info! I thought it was substantially more, like pushing 80-90k for an average house. May have to look into it if I ever decide to build.

 

[Kurtr]

I have many friends with troubles I think whoever does it better know their shit. Neighbor has had nothing put troubles they had to come back in and drill the shit out of his yard again. Get something that is clean burning so don't stink up house and garage.

Sounds like shitty contractors . You get what you pay for

 

[Allen]

Id probably put a wood stove in the shop. I like the smell of a fire and its free heat almost if you have access to wood. That wouldnt be my only source of heat though. arent air to air heat pumps feasible for cold locations like ND now, with backup electric? With global warming, the number of sub zero days in the winter should be decreasing hopefully. Whos building it, post your final floor plans. I want to built something similar hopefully in the next few years if possible.

Air heat pumps don't work well when it gets below 20 (??) degrees. I haven't really looked at them in years, but I remember there being some serious limitations in extreme cold weather when a gal I know had one installed about 10-12 years ago.

 

[Obi-Wan]

It really depends on size and how many wells you need . I know father in law had three wells and new furnace and the whole word put in and it was 15 grand that was 10 years ago. He was spending about 4000 on fuel oil a year so it didn’t take long to pay for. His has natural gas if it needs an assist and it’s only came on once . House is set at 71 and it it just stays that way year round.

was that back when they were heavily subsidized by Obama ?

 

[Kurtr]

was that back when they were heavily subsidized by Obama ?

It was 2006ish couldn’t say. I just know what he told me he paid for it.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Air heat pumps don't work well when it gets below 20 (??) degrees. I haven't really looked at them in years, but I remember there being some serious limitations in extreme cold weather when a gal I know had one installed about 10-12 years ago.

this is what I found when I did a search when I made that post:

• Standard Units: Typically might not function well below -10°C (14°F) to -20°C (-4°F) without some form of auxiliary heating or defrosting mechanism.
• Specialized Cold Climate Units: Can operate effectively down to -30°C (-22°F) or even colder, thanks to advanced designs and materials.

 

[Fester]

this is what I found when I did a search when I made that post:

• Standard Units: Typically might not function well below -10°C (14°F) to -20°C (-4°F) without some form of auxiliary heating or defrosting mechanism.
• Specialized Cold Climate Units: Can operate effectively down to -30°C (-22°F) or even colder, thanks to advanced designs and materials.

When they say advanced design..add on about $5k.

 

[Mike Fretty]

I have epoxy but scratch the hell out of it..being I use my shop to work on things.. cars, boats, other random equipment. It looks nice and makes it very easy to clean up but I thought it would be way way stronger…

Did you have the floor professionally done or did you do it yourself?

 

[OL Deadeye]

If you have garbage people put it in. My father in law is on year ten and the system had paid for its self with out one single hick up. I know of 4 other systems in town with out a single problem heating and cooling for an average of 72 cents a day.

Our Neighbor has Geo Thermo, its the Open Loop system discharging the water into the lake. I guess he said average water temp was 55 degrees before entering system. He has a very large house but he was going through pumps quite a bit and our electric rate here is pretty expensive in MN. Ten years ago he said his electric bill average around 400$ a month. The thing that sucks in winter its always running and our small bay is slush on top of the ice because of it pumping out the water. I wonder if Closed loop is a better option?

 

[Allen]

Our Neighbor has Geo Thermo, its the Open Loop system discharging the water into the lake. I guess he said average water temp was 55 degrees before entering system. He has a very large house but he was going through pumps quite a bit and our electric rate here is pretty expensive in MN. Ten years ago he said his electric bill average around 400$ a month. The thing that sucks in winter its always running and our small bay is slush on top of the ice because of it pumping out the water. I wonder if Closed loop is a better option?

Yes, closed loop is a way better option. Not necessarily cheaper to install though. That is why people use the open loops when they have a near unending supply of water at a stable temperature.

 

[guywhofishes]

you’d think open loop would be way more problematic for mineralization, biofilms, etc. vs closed loop where conditioners could be added to prevent such nonsense (just spitballing, since I have no experience whatsoever w these systems)

 

[NodakBob]

I have a closed loop system that works great and is low maintenance. 16 years and going strong thanks to Comfort Zone Heating and Air in Bismarck.

 

[D-Racer]

I have a closed loop system that works great and is low maintenance. 16 years and going strong thanks to Comfort Zone Heating and Air in Bismarck.

Closed loop is the way to go. We also have this system and as stated, problem free.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I prefer Shome.

Shouse makes it sound like you're hammered.

Shouse or Shart what is the difference

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

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