williams county massacre?

[guywhofishes]

Sounds like my old college roommate.

guilty

 

[svnmag]

Absolute Madness

IF CWD is a problem of consequence - natural selection is the only way out.

Culling is unselective and simply reduces the herd size - which means reducing the chances of the herd naturally selecting its way out of a chronic malady.

The chances of a handful of a population of deer having the genetics it takes to deal with prions are less if you reduce the size of the population.

I just do not understand the mindset behind culling. If it's to "buy time" - that's simply irrational.

WRONG. They could be corralled and given a vaccine. The escapees (SKPs) from the perimeter would be chased by dogs to exhaustion/death to prevent free thinking and wild ideation.

This post is giving me deja vu. That is all:

 

[camper]

which is why I usually don’t engage anymore - exhausting and fruitless

carry on

I hate it when people say carry on.

Carry on.

 

[NodakBob]

Carrion

 

[Pigsticker]

I hope they processed them and donated the meat...

It was 52 deer I believe was the official count. There were rumors of a few more having been found dead outside of the recovery area after the fiasco by neighbors. Every single deer was processed...to the extent of cutting out the lymph nodes and then dumping all of the deer into a landfill. Well over 2,000 pounds of clean organic meat wasted and rotting, because processing would have cost the department money and they would have had to sit on the meat until the samples came back clean.

Not one animal tested positive out of the 52 slaughtered. This is "the science" at work folks...trust it.

 

[wct12]

As I recall, there was a fairly large herd of deer in the Williston area, close to the river. Herded up for the winter like whitetails have been doing forever. Shooters came in and killed a pretty large number of them for testing. Don't remember the exact number but do remember "Holy shit, that was a lot of deer." Wasn't the percentage of Positive tested deer pretty low? Low depends on several definitions. 1 per 100 is pretty low to me, but to someone trying to make their case, 1 per 100 proves that we have a problem. Created more bad press than good, again, dependent on who's side you were on.

There was 1 doe that was found dead and tested positive. This is the one deer the department says died because of CWD.. They then came in and were supposed to kill and recover 50 mature animals. They killed a couple fawns on accident it sounds like and thats why they went over 50.

Some land owners around there claim the sharp shooters weren't really "sharp shooters" either and there was some deer that weren't recovered. Thats a rumor that's floated around

 

[wct12]

I hope they processed them and donated the meat...

52 deer dumped in the land fill...

 

[wct12]

Took a bit to find it again.. But Dr Charlie Bahnson and his thoughts in the NDGF magazine afterwards..

https://gf.nd.gov/magazine/2019/may/cwd

 

[wct12]

I also want to take the time to thank everyone that watched testimony and wrote in.. It's clear that people paid attention as this is something I brought up in my testimony.. (I know, it's probably hard for a few people on here to believe that I actually exist and am not just GST under a new email, even if I did testify a couple people after him)

This is the map I brought and handed out to the senators on the committee along with quoting 2 sources from the department (1 saying they don't use sportsmen to cull through an open records request and 1 lady standing at the podium saying they do).

Its pretty hard to refute the fact that the department does in fact have sportsmen do their dirty work and then give bureaucratic responses to avoid coming out and directly saying it after looking at that map.. 112% increase in 3f2?... Come on.

 

[eyexer]

The G&F is a trustworthy as the fbi

 

[johnr]

WWFD

what would fauci do?

 

[Maddog]

WWFD

what would fauci do?

get pardoned

 

[Colt45]

From G&F article wct12 posted link above:

Q: Why wasn’t the venison salvaged from those animals?

A: We weighed that decision very heavily, but in the end, the cons outweighed the pros. Going into a disease investigation, you must assume that all animals are positive until proven otherwise. As a result, we had to go to great lengths to get all carcass parts off the landscape and contained until results were received 10 days later. And in sampling that many deer in a laboratory setting, we couldn’t maintain a level of cleanliness that most people would approve of. I am a hunter who takes wasting meat very seriously, but I am also a veterinarian who swore an oath to protect the health of animals and the public. We didn’t know what we would find, and we had to plan for the worst. In the end, I think we made the right decision.

 

[Jiffy]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t they been saying all along that CWD isn’t supposed to ruin the meat?

 

[Obi-Wan]

WRONG. They could be corralled and given a vaccine. The escapees (SKPs) from the perimeter would be chased by dogs to exhaustion/death to prevent free thinking and wild ideation.

This post is giving me deja vu. That is all:

The only way this would work is if they are forced to wear cloth mask prior to being coerced or forced to receive the vaccine

 

[wct12]

From G&F article wct12 posted link above:

Q: Why wasn’t the venison salvaged from those animals?

A: We weighed that decision very heavily, but in the end, the cons outweighed the pros. Going into a disease investigation, you must assume that all animals are positive until proven otherwise. As a result, we had to go to great lengths to get all carcass parts off the landscape and contained until results were received 10 days later. And in sampling that many deer in a laboratory setting, we couldn’t maintain a level of cleanliness that most people would approve of. I am a hunter who takes wasting meat very seriously, but I am also a veterinarian who swore an oath to protect the health of animals and the public. We didn’t know what we would find, and we had to plan for the worst. In the end, I think we made the right decision.

This is a scientific lab that they use to have 0 cross contamination and the best protocols available, and they were worried about the meat not being up to people’s standards?.. come on now. They’ve apparently never had a case of beer, cut up a deer on a wood table and threw it in a grinder with some pork to make sausage. That lab should be one hell of a lot more clean then my building we make sausage in.

Again, bureaucratic response to cover their ass after people got pissed about it. Pack individual deer in vac bags, label them, and if one comes back positive remove that one use the rest. Instead 52 were negative and the meat off 52 deer got wasted.

 

[Obi-Wan]

This is a scientific lab that they use to have 0 cross contamination and the best protocols available, and they were worried about the meat not being up to people’s standards?.. come on now. They’ve apparently never had a case of beer, cut up a deer on a wood table and threw it in a grinder with some pork to make sausage. That lab should be one hell of a lot more clean then my building we make sausage in.

Again, bureaucratic response to cover their ass after people got pissed about it. Pack individual deer in vac bags, label them, and if one comes back positive remove that one use the rest. Instead 52 were negative and the meat off 52 deer got wasted.

wouldn't joe citizen be charged with 52 counts of wanton waste ?