Well this is going to get interesting

[Davey Crockett]

Drones and IR is where it's at but a guy would starve to death in that business unless it was mandatory to fly pipelines.





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Lunker , What kind of highway drone inspection was that you mentioned about a while back ? Do you know how many miles and price per mile ?

 

[lunkerslayer]

no clue on the price everything is billed out according to that project and I don't have access to that information. Well maybe, I will let you know tomorrow night is the christmas party.

 

[huffranger]

Weekly fly overs with FLIR detection is required in Alaska

 

[Davey Crockett]

Weekly fly overs with FLIR detection is required in Alaska

That sounds like it would be a fun job. Do they use bush pilots or drones ?

 

[eyexer]

There has been a lot of R&D for rebuilding old city sewer systems without replacing them. They have saved us taxpayers a lot of money but Petro lines are a different breed of cat . The pipe under the river should be as simple as running an outer pipe so you can remove and replace inner pipe if needed. I still don't buy into the double pipe will fail theory, They make centralizers to keep inner pipe from ever touching outer pipe, I've ran hundreds if not thousands of them. Has anyone ever saw a piece of real AK pipeline material ? I had friends working on it and one brought back a "Trophey" cut in the shape AK , I'd dare say the AK pipeline would last longer than our need for oil ill be if it was buried under the river without cathodic protection.



Huff Ranger said it best..... So again the ignorance and neglect of a few affect the many.

Pipelines are the safest way to move hydrocarbons to market. Period.....[/QUOTE I agree. two pipes. Inner a thick wall poly probably 2" thick or more. Then a steal outer. You can pull a new poly every ten years or so. won't have corrosion issues.

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That sounds like it would be a fun job. Do they use bush pilots or drones ?

they fly pipelines here all the time.

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Wow eye you basically given us every reason to be scared of these pipe under our feets. It must be such a conflict of interest for you to see such a lack of respect to north Dakota values.

not sure what you mean conflict of interest. but I can tell you I go out of my way to insure every barrel that leaves gets to the disposal. we have meter issues a lot and you have to force the midstream companies to verify what the deal is. I also make sure I know where every pipeline is on my route so I can watch for issues. I pump right along the lake and it would be in the lake in no time flat. Thankfully my wells are all within three miles of the disposal so it's easy to keep an eye on it. And they're all within three years old or so.

 

[svnmag]

I wonder if states could hire natives and hippies to poop at each joint to help monitor soil temperature and assist with thermal imaging? They could defecate for money. provide nutrients for the Earth and provide waypoints. Much entertaining fodder for many threads!...Pooping! It's a win/win.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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I can tell you I go out of my way to insure every barrel that leaves gets to the disposal. we have meter issues a lot and you have to force the midstream companies to verify what the deal is. I also make sure I know where every pipeline is on my route so I can watch for issues. I pump right along the lake and it would be in the lake in no time flat. Thankfully my wells are all within three miles of the disposal so it's easy to keep an eye on it. And they're all within three years old or so.

You have my dream job, I always thought when I retire I wanted to be a part time pumper so when a pumper that I knew was looking for help I rode with him one day but all the wells were old and kobbled together. Roustabouts were fixing leaks as fast as they could and had a long list. One well had adjacent landowners with a salt water disputes . A bunch of the wells around here are old to very old with a few very very old ones. Low producers but it's cheaper to pump them and lose money than it is to plug and abandon them. By the end of the day I turned it down, I have a hard enough time sleeping at night the way it is.

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[QUOTE=eyexer;

QUOTE I agree. two pipes. Inner a thick wall poly probably 2" thick or more. Then a steal outer. You can pull a new poly every ten years or so. won't have corrosion issues.

Exactly the way I see it too, The only credible argument that can be made against a pipeline system like that is $$$.

 

[bucksnbears]

I wonder if states could hire natives and hippies to poop at each joint to help monitor soil temperature and assist with thermal imaging? They could defecate for money. provide nutrients for the Earth and provide waypoints. Much entertaining fodder for many threads!...Pooping! It's a win/win.

do you never wake up, re-read the stupid shit you say while drunk/high and say "self. i have to get sober someday"

 

[svnmag]

Yes.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Not me I would like safe pipelines and cheap gas to, I have never had to deal with any sort of spill and hope I never do.

Then maybe you should have been at Casselton when that train derail and fire happened. I was and so were my best friends evacuating their families with children. Let's dump a train of fire right next to your house and see what you think about pipelines.

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And I don't necessarily disagree with you on most of what your saying, especially your thoughts and brainstorming of ideas to better pipelines, but the whole act about pipes are bad and trucks trains are better but wait pipes are/can be good thing is starting to look bipolar.
There is no perfect system and pipelines are proven but in our state there is definitely room for improvement as well as a need to look for none fossil fuel options.

 

[lunkerslayer]

luvinbass by no means am i saying that running oil across the country in rail cars is the safest way, If you read my post I am for building pipelines to transport oil from the bakken to refineries. I just think it is a shame that some consider one disaster is not as bad as the other, but me it Like the old saying make the cake and eat it to. I want safe transport and cheap fuel
Eye, what I meant is with the knowledge you know about pipe safety it must be of heavy heart knowing that if you could change the way pipe inspection is done based on an understanding of North Dakota values that you would inspect all pipes the same way if you could and that you know that these pipelines need to be replaced or updated because what is being done is not enough.

 

[raider]

i wonder... we could refine bakken crude... in the bakken... instead of transporting millions of barrels of it south and east... and then transporting 100's of millions of gallons of gas and diesel back up he...

never mind... that would be dumb...

 

[Account Deleted]

With Trump in office, maybe we can actually start building things like refineries, nuclear power plants and the like again.

 

[dean nelson]

i wonder... we could refine bakken crude... in the bakken... instead of transporting millions of barrels of it south and east... and then transporting 100's of millions of gallons of gas and diesel back up he...

never mind... that would be dumb...

That's would be like nd processing all are grain and using it here even though there's no way we have enough people to even come close to making that a viable option. Plus there's not much money in refining oil although I have to believe Tessaro's raking it in with that discount price they pay even though it didn't have to be shipped halfway across the country to get them

 

[Bed Wetter]

do you never wake up, re-read the stupid shit you say while drunk/high and say "self. i have to get sober someday"

STOP IT. We like svn's musings.

 

[eyexer]

I wonder if states could hire natives and hippies to poop at each joint to help monitor soil temperature and assist with thermal imaging? They could defecate for money. provide nutrients for the Earth and provide waypoints. Much entertaining fodder for many threads!...Pooping! It's a win/win.

they already defecate for money

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i wonder... we could refine bakken crude... in the bakken... instead of transporting millions of barrels of it south and east... and then transporting 100's of millions of gallons of gas and diesel back up he...

never mind... that would be dumb...

that's why a new gasoline refinery is going in down around belfield

 

[westwolfone]

With Trump in office, maybe we can actually start building things like refineries, nuclear power plants and the like again.

And a new governor. Burgum's already done more in his 1st day than Dalrymple did in his whole term.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I would really like to see a refinery built here in Devils

 

[Fly Carpin]

do you never wake up, re-read the stupid shit you say while drunk/high and say "self. i have to get sober someday"

Just because you don't understand his nuanced language doesn't mean it's "stupid". Svn is well liked in these parts. Don't be a dink

 

[tikkalover]

Go Fund Me donations cause distress for veterans standing with Standing Rock

BISMARCK, N.D. - Good intentions don't always turn out as planned. That's the case with a GoFundMe account set up to assist veterans who intended to come and Stand with Standing Rock.

The use of over a million dollars in donations is being questioned and former members of the military are upset about statements made on their behalf.
The population of the main protest camp fluctuates depending on many circumstances, with weather being one of the main factors. The camp recently saw a an influx of veterans due to the Veterans Standing for Standing Rock movement.
"There was an event for the gathering of Veterans. I thought this was the perfect chance for me to go. I've been wanting to go up there," said Griz Grzywa, U.S. Army Veteran.
Grzywa feels the two organizers of the Veterans Standing for Standing Rock took him and other former members of the military for a ride. Those who have served in the armed forces were invited to join the demonstrations against the Dakota Access Pipeline.
Veterans were promised their expenses would be reimbursed for coming to the camp.

"It was a logistical nightmare. After the blizzard in the casino it's like every soldier was fending for themselves," said Grzywa.
Grzywa says many of his brothers have not received the promised reimbursement from a Go Fund Me account that was set up for that purpose. Michael Wood is one of the organizers of the event, and in a statement he says, "The event is not even completely wrapped up, we still have people cleaning up from everything and needing supplies. We have already issued hundreds of reimbursements."
Another of Grzywa's points of contention comes from an apology that Wes Clark, Junior one of the other organizers made on behalf of all veterans.
"When he asked the veterans to take a knee and apologize. That should should come from the president of the United States. That shouldn't come from Wes Clark Jr. who is really nobody," said Grzywa.
Clark isn't apologizing for his apology and says, “You can't have forgiveness without confession."
Grzywa wants all veterans to be reimbursed.
Wood and Clark who are hosts and contributors for the news organization The Young Turks have received a lot of backlash over how the event was run.
Wood also added in his statement that, "There will be a complete audit, and transition to a nonprofit organization, but the mission has to actually be over yet."