Property Tax Credit

Pheasant 54

★★★★★ Legendary Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2018
Posts
624
Likes
353
Points
200
With session coming to an end I have to give the Gov kudos, he vetoed some bad bills I was afraid he would sign. As for the legislature it is F the citizens at every corner and then throw out some bullshit excuse for it . The ones that probably need the property tax relief the most are the ones paying 2200 and less , but we can give the 500M Presidential library another 50M .
 


Sluggo

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
May 14, 2015
Posts
2,849
Likes
904
Points
438
Location
Bismarck
I would be willing to bet the amount of residents whose property tax bill is 2200 or less is pretty damn small.
I am not so sure about this. I used to think the same but I have asked around recently and if you live outside of the large cities, the property tax bill can be very small, we're talking less than $1000. I think rural cities may do a better job of controlling their spending and probably don't have everyone crying for more amenities. I think the cap is really important to force the entities to limit their annual budget increases.
 

powerman

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
Apr 24, 2015
Posts
575
Likes
73
Points
215
Location
ND
I am not so sure about this. I used to think the same but I have asked around recently and if you live outside of the large cities, the property tax bill can be very small, we're talking less than $1000. I think rural cities may do a better job of controlling their spending and probably don't have everyone crying for more amenities. I think the cap is really important to force the entities to limit their annual budget increases.
The nearest larger city to me is 45 min away and I am not happy with my property taxes. The evaluation increases have been crazy. I don't mind the cap, but also think that they will just decide on 3% budget increase every year. And if the 3% isn't enough then they just increase valuations across the county to make it enough.
 


Wirehair

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
May 16, 2015
Posts
712
Likes
348
Points
275
Location
Bismarck
Discussion in conference committee today suggests the house may be wiling to take the credit down to $1000 / yr. Legislators appear to be good with $5 million for TR Library, $500 million to subsidize a NG pipeline from the oil patch to provide cheap energy for data mining out east, but the hell with providing meaningful tax relief for the average joe. Voted for measure 4 last year and will most certainly vote for it again! While our current governor provides great lip service to property tax relief, there is most certainly no will or desire within the ranks of the current legislators. They need to go, starting with all 3 in District 30.
 

Pigsticker

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2015
Posts
313
Likes
158
Points
217
Location
Minot
This property tax debacle is literally F'd. A tax credit isn't enough. There is no reason these legislators should be approving $125 million in forgivable loans to a company that they receive extraction taxes from for developing a fertilizer plant. Or granting $50 million to a library that most residents will probably never visit. ND residents literally get spit on by our governing body. I can't wait to see what horrendous idea they decide to spend the legacy fund money on in the future...wait, I won't have to worry about that because I probably won't live long enough to see any of it spent, because we need to save up $100 billion for some unknown reason or project...as if that somehow makes sense?

Our state is literally stupid, or at least the ones who are running it are. I can't believe it's such an unfathomable concept to reward the people who live here and make the state function with some sort of tax relief, when the state is stuffing 100's of millions away annually, but simultaneously giving away the same amount to companies who don't need it. Nothing like charging an extraction tax, only to turn around and give it right back to the companies that pay it...wtf is the point? Our govt is nothing but a bunch of slimeballs who clearly are not interested in helping the residents of ND...

And why should they? ND residents made it loud and clear that they were more than happy to get stepped on during the last election when it came to measure 4. Two thirds of voting body pretty much told the legislature that they were just fine and dandy with their property tax assessments. If I were a legislator, I wouldn't be very concerned with this issue after seeing the polls...hell, most of you got schmucked into thinking that the whole state would fall to pieces and descend into hell if (heaven forbid) we didn't have property taxes. Like seriously, here we are in 2025 and we still can't come up with a better system than renting our property from the city and having some guy saying, "well, you have a really nice property, you should pay more", like what!? Or "sorry 80 yr old Edna, you can't afford the increasing taxes on your fixed income, I guess you'll have to sell the home you raised your family in and move on to somewhere else"...Man, the amount of simps when it comes to this property tax issue just astounds me. How is this even an issue at this point, no one in Bis is smart enough to come up with a solution?
 


Davy Crockett

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
Apr 22, 2015
Posts
15,360
Likes
2,623
Points
783
Location
Boondocks
Discussion in conference committee today suggests the house may be wiling to take the credit down to $1000 / yr. Legislators appear to be good with $5 million for TR Library, $500 million to subsidize a NG pipeline from the oil patch to provide cheap energy for data mining out east, but the hell with providing meaningful tax relief for the average joe. Voted for measure 4 last year and will most certainly vote for it again! While our current governor provides great lip service to property tax relief, there is most certainly no will or desire within the ranks of the current legislators. They need to go, starting with all 3 in District 30.

You would think at least one person in that room would have known that the by product from data mining is heat, created from the computers. These buildings need a beefed up cooling system.
 
Joined
Dec 8, 2023
Posts
580
Likes
466
Points
150
these gol dang rinos cant figure out a budget spend spend spend n ask for more they dont do what the people want they always find a way to F everything up what we shoulda done is passed measure 4 so the whole pot of money allocation went to them to figure out maybe that woulda turned em back into real conservatives no way it coulda ended up a horrible shit show
 


Slappy

★★★★★ Legendary Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Posts
913
Likes
790
Points
323
Location
Bismarck
Spending (especially corporate welfare) is the issue, and eliminating property taxes does nothing to address spending and abuse of taxpayers. Term limits and abolishing property taxes are feel-good, ineffective measures that make lazy voters feel like they're doing something.

If you vote straight ticket Republican and have never attended a Republican district meeting, you might be part of the problem.

Plain and simple: we need the right people elected to control spending and taxation. Corrupt politicians will find ways to spend your money regardless of the specific revenue source. Eliminate one and they will introduce or increase another.
 

Fester

★★★★★ Legendary Member
Joined
Sep 15, 2018
Posts
2,830
Likes
2,466
Points
628
Location
Space
Spending (especially corporate welfare) is the issue, and eliminating property taxes does nothing to address spending and abuse of taxpayers. Term limits and abolishing property taxes are feel-good, ineffective measures that make lazy voters feel like they're doing something.

If you vote straight ticket Republican and have never attended a Republican district meeting, you might be part of the problem.

Plain and simple: we need the right people elected to control spending and taxation. Corrupt politicians will find ways to spend your money regardless of the specific revenue source. Eliminate one and they will introduce or increase another.
If you think its one your wrong. Its both that need to be addressed. Nothing will controll the spending when they have blank checks coming in.
 

tikkalover

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
May 10, 2015
Posts
8,664
Likes
2,104
Points
758
Location
Minot
BISMARCK, N.D. (KFYR) - The controversial state commerce budget bill is moving to Governor Kelly Armstrong’s desk.

House lawmakers passed the legislation Friday morning in a 66-to-22 vote. The bill reduced several provisions from when it previously passed the House last week.

Lawmakers removed all funding for the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. Representatives made the cuts after negotiating with senators who called it non-negotiable.

“We decided to go with the Senate, and we’ll take this up next session. When we come back, the library will have been open for about five months. We can take a look at it at a little bit more of a leisurely pace and take our time to delve into this,” said Rep. Mike Nathe, R-Bismarck.

While not the result they were looking for, officials with the library say it won’t affect their opening plans.

“We know there was a lot of competing interests, and the library will continue to go about its mission. We look forward to welcoming the world to North Dakota when we open in 2026,” said Matt Briney, Chief Communications Officer with the library.

The bill still maintains $9 million towards replacing state-owned, Chinese-built drones with those created in the US or allied countries. Nathe says it’s a matter of national security to have them replaced as soon as possible.
 

Fester

★★★★★ Legendary Member
Joined
Sep 15, 2018
Posts
2,830
Likes
2,466
Points
628
Location
Space
BISMARCK, N.D. (KFYR) - The controversial state commerce budget bill is moving to Governor Kelly Armstrong’s desk.

House lawmakers passed the legislation Friday morning in a 66-to-22 vote. The bill reduced several provisions from when it previously passed the House last week.

Lawmakers removed all funding for the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. Representatives made the cuts after negotiating with senators who called it non-negotiable.

“We decided to go with the Senate, and we’ll take this up next session. When we come back, the library will have been open for about five months. We can take a look at it at a little bit more of a leisurely pace and take our time to delve into this,” said Rep. Mike Nathe, R-Bismarck.

While not the result they were looking for, officials with the library say it won’t affect their opening plans.

“We know there was a lot of competing interests, and the library will continue to go about its mission. We look forward to welcoming the world to North Dakota when we open in 2026,” said Matt Briney, Chief Communications Officer with the library.

The bill still maintains $9 million towards replacing state-owned, Chinese-built drones with those created in the US or allied countries. Nathe says it’s a matter of national security to have them replaced as soon as possible.
Its amazing without the funding it can still go about its business. Crooks all of them!
 

lunkerslayer

Founding Member
Founding Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2015
Posts
23,397
Likes
7,947
Points
1,008
Location
Cavalier, ND
Its sad isn't it? It reminds me of the 11% rebate at Menards. They make bank on people not sending in for it.
The bad part of the 11 percent scam is its the exact same rebate since the late 90s, and they don't always have this rebate year round. You are right im one of those who dont take the time to send in for the rebate since you can only use that rebate at menards.
 


Recent Posts

Friends of NDA

Top Posters of the Month

  • This month: 157
  • This month: 50
  • This month: 43
  • This month: 41
  • This month: 40
  • This month: 35
  • This month: 23
  • This month: 22
  • This month: 18
  • This month: 17
Top Bottom