Alaska Wilderness

[PrairieGhost]

Blah blah blah.

Ok now I'm convinced

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Most everyone here would agree with Fritz about the threat from George soros, or anyone on the left for that matter. We all know they need to be watched to protect our interest, and unfortunately to protect the whole American way of life. That said we have people that are fellow conservatives that are as dangerouse to our hunting heritage as Soros. The American Land Council and the Farm Bureau just to name two. Currently our public land is multiple use. If either of these groups get any control we hunters will be the first to lose free access. Oh we may still have access, for a while, but we will pay Joe rancher who leases it and in the future will own it if they get their shoe in the door.

I believe you became a moderator for nodakouthouse in 2003. I wish I had a nickel for every time you spewed your anti-landowner tripe.

I can share what is happening:

https://www.nature.org/en-us/magazine/magazine-articles/30x30-wyss-foundation-interview/

MAGAZINE ARTICLES

30x30: Protect 30% of the Planet's Land and Water by 2030​

A billion-dollar gift from the Wyss Foundation will help us achieve this ambitious environmental goal.
By Julian Smith, Freelance Writer | February 29, 2020
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In 2019, The Nature Conservancy successfully closed on innovative new projects and deals that cumulatively protect nearly 6.6 million acres of land—an area larger than the states of Rhode Island, Delaware and Connecticut combined. Each of these successes relied on distinct strategies, partnerships or financing models to succeed, but they were all connected by one common thread: major support from the billion-dollar Wyss Campaign for Nature, which is helping to spearhead an ambitious drive to protect 30% of the Earth by 2030.

Biden signed an executive order day one. He and his administration were told what to do and when to do it.

For more than 20 years, Swiss philanthropist Hansjörg Wyss has been supporting conservation with hundreds of millions of dollars, but in 2018 he pledged an additional billion dollars over 10 years to help reach that 30% goal. The Wyss Campaign is supporting new types of projects that leverage innovative financial tools or partner with Indigenous communities to create even bigger gains for people and nature.

Example, the Eskimos like oil and mineral extraction because they like jobs. These philanthropists' lawyer up a few indigenous subsistence people to fight against extraction.

And TNC announced the launch of its Blue Bonds for Conservation program, which aims to help small coastal and island countries protect 30% of their national waters. A pilot of this TNC project with the Seychelles government has already protected more than 86 million acres of waters in the western Indian Ocean, an area almost as large as Germany.
All three of these projects demonstrate how conservation can—and must—scale up in the future. The threats to biodiversity grow more dire every year. A 2019 report from the United Nations estimates that about a million species are now at risk of extinction, and that biodiversity is declining hundreds of times faster than the normal rate—a pace never before seen in human history.
But the report also stated that it’s not too late to turn things around, even though it will require a massive effort to protect habitat. “For starters, we have to protect 30% of the planet by 2030, and we need to mobilize the financial resources to sustainably manage lands and waters over the long term,” says Wyss, an industrialist who has quietly funded conservation work across five continents. His public commitment to give $1 billion to help reach the 30x30 goal is enabling numerous conservation groups to scale up their work.

He gives lots of money to conservation and pretend sportsmen's orgs.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/backcountry-hunters-and-anglers/

Scientists, governments and nongovernmental organizations around the world are calling for the next meeting of the Convention on Biological Diversity—to be held this year in China—to set the target of conserving 30% of nature by 2030. The idea is that through protecting habitat, they can help the world’s species be more resilient to climate change and other human disturbances, such as pollution or agriculture.

In China?

That need for large-scale conservation projects fits TNC’s purview perfectly, says Lynn Scarlett, TNC’s chief external affairs officer. “As the human footprint grows, its effects on biodiversity grow, too, and the scale at which you need to operate also grows,” she says. The Conservancy has a global reach and offers the skills of hundreds of scientists, as well as those of the leading experts in innovative financing for conservation.

Innovative financing for conservation? Like as in Natural Asset Companies trading air and water on the New York Stock Exchange.

Q&A

Philanthropist Hansjörg Wyss fell in love with nature in the American West. Now he wants to see it protected around the world.​

DONOR Hansjörg Wyss pledged $1 billion over 10 years to protect nature. © Jason Seiler

Do you see protecting the natural world as an obligation for everyone? Is there a role for both large-scale philanthropists and people with more modest incomes?​

Wyss: I am proud of the work [the Wyss Campaign for Nature has] done over the last few decades, but I also know that we all need to be doing more—far more—to conserve and protect the planet’s remaining wild places. One of the best ways to safeguard wildlife and wild areas is to increase the pace and scale at which we’re protecting the planet. I announced my $1 billion gift and launched the Wyss Campaign for Nature in the hope that it would be a signal for others, including philanthropists and governments, to commit more money to protect nature.
We need everyone helping to slow the loss of nature and conserve the planet’s wild places. Philanthropy at all scales is important—large contributions, modest contributions and everything in between. But it is even more important that people raise their voices, that they vote for candidates with a plan to protect nature, and that they get actively involved in conservation at the local, national or international level.

Of the many environmental threats the world faces, which one causes you the most concern?​

Wyss: The climate emergency and the crisis facing nature and wildlife are two sides of the same coin. We cannot stabilize the climate without increasing protections for nature around the world. In fact, the most cost-effective way to mitigate climate change is to protect more of the Earth’s lands and waters, especially carbon-rich ecosystems like forests, peatlands and mangroves. And like climate change, the continued destruction of natural areas presents an existential threat to communities and economies around the world. Without intact natural systems, billions of people will suffer.

How do people fit into your vision for conservation?
Wyss: Every conservation project that the Wyss Foundation supports is driven by local communities and by local people who have identified a landscape or seascape under threat and in need of protection. In Montana, we have supported the Blackfeet Nation in their decades-long effort to protect the Badger-Two Medicine—a place of deep cultural and spiritual significance—from oil drilling. In Argentina, we have helped rural communities diversify their economies by establishing new national parks. And the list goes on.


What kind of world do you hope we can leave for future generations?
Wyss: I am optimistic by nature. I feel confident we will, collectively, rise to the occasion and protect far more of the planet. I think my grandchildren and their grandchildren will live in a world where half the planet is conserved for nature. We have a lot of work to do, and we don’t have a great deal of time. We must act quickly to protect what’s left. Still, I’m very confident that, working together as part of a global effort, we can get there.

He didn't say 30%. He said half.

PrairieGhost, this article is from the Nature Conservancy. If you ask they will let you hunt. For now.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I wish I had a nickel for every time you spewed your anti-landowner tripe.

So not wanting anyone to steal our public land is anti landowner? The gov currently owns it so in essence we are all landowners. Your comment implies you know who wants to steal it from us. Who would that be fritz?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

There is another thread started about former Senator Tom Campbell running for the House seat being vacated by Kelly Amstrong.

https://nodakangler.com/forums/threads/north-dakota-2024.17752/#post-397510

Through shell companies Bill Gates bought Campbell Farms and rented it back. Not a lot of people support corporations buying farmland. The Attorney Generals office is on it, but I don't know if they will make Bill Gates divest.

To win public opinion, hypothetically, what if Bill Gates said he will make it open to public hunting. How many PrairieGhosts would be cheerleading for Bill Gates?

The enviros trying to lock up public lands know your heart.

 

[PrairieGhost]

How many PrairieGhosts would be cheerleading for Bill Gates?

Zero. Bill gates is a low life that would like most of the people on the planet to die. If Bill gates stops production it isn't for conservation, it's to starve people.

Don't throw out the impossible as an example. You debate to much like a liberal. Next you will want people to think Ill vote for Hillary. Oh wait, you have already tried that ------ multiple times. I don't think anyone is buying the old turn him into the enemy trick. That's deceptive at best.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

So not wanting anyone to steal our public land is anti landowner? The gov currently owns it so in essence we are all landowners. Your comment implies you know who wants to steal it from us. Who would that be fritz?

You talk like a Russian peasant.

Trash prestine public wilderness so private companies can build and mine gold. Rich get richer at our expense.

BLM Proposes 22 Million Acres of Public Lands for Solar Energy​

https://www.ecowatch.com/u/cristenhj
By: Cristen Hemingway Jaynes
Published: January 23, 2024

Edited by Chris McDermott

The 230-megawatt Desert Sunlight Battery Energy Storage System on 94 acres of BLM-managed public lands near Desert Center in Riverside County, California, on July 27, 2022. NextEra / Bureau of Land Management California

Why you can trust us

In order to help the United States transition to renewable energy, the Department of the Interior has announced a new solar energy “roadmap,” including 22 million acres of public lands to expand solar energy development in the West, a press release from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) said.
The BLM also announced plans for the next steps on green energy projects in California, Nevada and Arizona with the potential for more than 1,700 megawatts (MW) of solar power generation and 1,300 MW of battery storage capacity.

“Our public lands are playing a critical role in the clean energy transition – and the progress the Bureau of Land Management is announcing today on several clean energy projects across the West represents our continued momentum in achieving those goals,” said Tracy Stone-Manning, BLM director, in the press release. “Investing in clean and reliable renewable energy represents the BLM’s commitment to building a clean energy economy, tackling the climate crisis, promoting American energy security, and creating jobs in communities across the country.”

The BLM, along with the U.S. National Renewable Energy Laboratory — part of the Department of Energy — have said 700,000 acres of public lands will need to be used for solar farms in the next two decades if the U.S. is to meet its net zero goal by 2035, Electrek reported.
“The Interior Department’s work to responsibly and quickly develop renewable energy projects is crucial to achieving the Biden-Harris administration’s goal of a carbon pollution-free power sector by 2035 – and this updated solar roadmap will help us get there in more states and on more lands across the West,” said Laura Daniel-Davis, acting U.S. deputy secretary of the interior, in the press release.

The BLM recently published a draft of the Utility-Scale Solar Energy Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement — an update to the Western Solar Plan. The amended plan would simplify the department’s siting framework for solar projects.

After months of stakeholder meetings, the new roadmap expands the 2012 Western Solar Plan — which originally included the states of Colorado, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and New Mexico — to include Oregon, Washington, Montana, Idaho and Wyoming.

“The proposal is an update of BLM’s 2012 Western Solar Plan, which identified areas… with high solar potential and low resource conflicts in order to guide responsible solar development and provide certainty to developers,” the BLM press release said. “The BLM’s preferred alternative in the updated Western Solar Plan would provide approximately 22 million acres of land open for solar application, giving maximum flexibility to reach the nation’s clean energy goals.”
BLM used $4.3 million of Inflation Reduction Act funds for investment in Western Solar Plan updates.

bravo and PG, when I said philanthropists are locking up public lands I meant from extractive purposes. They are dumping millions into climate change, democrat candidates and non-profits. They are going to turn many acres of your public lands into blue glass. And there is nothing you two roundheads can or will do about it.

 

[bravo]

I’m not sure you even know what side you’re on. Take your pill and try again.

 

[Rowdie]

I can't think of a better place to put up solar farms than over a desert.

 

[Rowdie]

But, I'd rather we put up nuclear power plants. I'm not a big fan of solar and wind as it's expensive and unreliable.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

I’m not sure you even know what side you’re on. Take your pill and try again.

Too easy. I support lumberjacks, drillers, ranchers, farmers, miners and/or the industrious man.

 

[bravo]

Are gold miners more industrious than solar plant erectors, operators, and mechanics?

 

[PrairieGhost]

Too easy. I support lumberjacks, drillers, ranchers, farmers, miners and/or the industrious man.

I think every person on this site agrees with that. However I dont support one group stealing it from everyone else. I can support mining without supporting ever mine they want. I can support agriculture without supporting draining every wetland in existence.
I like solar for my camper, but it isn't feasible large scale. You present one stupid thing as a reason to support a gold mine. I have not looked into this proposed mine and don't know if I support or oppose it. I only got involved because you mentioned my name a few posts back. I know you did that because you were looking for a fight and you thought you could win people over if you could get me to oppose it, then as you did use a stupid thing like solar to justify something totally unrelated. I dont fall in line with the the masses I think for myself. Currently I neither support or apposed the subject we should stick to. You need to find another boogy man to blame. I am not making the sky fall chicken little.

 

[WormWiggler]

Too easy. I support lumberjacks, drillers, ranchers, farmers, miners and/or the industrious man.

i could easily parrot that list, but in recent times I have started to think support for the "little guy" is where I really exist.

Much on the interwebs has been said about socialism failing with russian & venzuela being high profile examples...

What if the failing of capitalism is that things get to big, too big government, too big corporations, to big individual wealth....

 

[Rowdie]

Too easy. I support lumberjacks, drillers, ranchers, farmers, miners and/or the industrious man.

But NOT hunters and outdoors enthusiasts? Oh unless they PAY for access.

 

[WormWiggler]

But NOT hunters and outdoors enthusiasts? Oh unless they PAY for access.

i believe mr bobcat from FBO hates me to this day for pointed out the needs of business over the needs for recreation when he whined about his biking woes on public highways....

i see many people that base their gripes on how something solely effect them... not singling you out just an overall observation of human nature.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

But NOT hunters and outdoors enthusiasts? Oh unless they PAY for access.

Already included sportsmen. See post #34.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Are gold miners more industrious than solar plant erectors, operators, and mechanics?

bravo, do you really work in the coal fired energy sector?

The Department of the Interior, the Biden Administration, the private investors want to turn 700,000 BLM acres into blue glass. Where is your outrage?

 

[bravo]

I’m just shining a little light on hypocrisy. I personally don’t want to see a sprawling solar plant built off subsidies on public land.

But you said you were all for our public lands being utilized and in production. And you support industrious folks. Why gold mining and not a solar farm?

Edit: And as far as my outrage, BHA sent a notice opposing the solar farm’s development in public land. I submitted comment in opposition to BLM. You can too until April 18th.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

bravo, you are a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers? Whoa.........

 

[PrairieGhost]

bravo, you are a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers? Whoa.........

I didnt see where bravo said he was a member of BHA. Maybe he is, maybe he isnt. He only mentioned BHA sent a letter opposing the solar farm. Maybe he only wanted to point out that BHA and you are on the same page.