bad crash on dl

[SDMF]

I have been using my GPS as a guide and trying to track my path back, now I wonder if this isn't going to give me a false sense of security.

Re-tracing your previous GPS path works well if you're zoomed in far enough, sort of. The problem being that if you're zoomed in far enough to be very accurately re-tracing your steps, then you've also got your eyes glued to the GPS screen and not what's out in front of you. Additionally, when zoomed in that far, even marked hazards can come up so fast that you can't avoid them even when merely running @ minimum planing speed.

I'm not saying that re-tracing GPS tracks is a bad thing, not at all. "Blind Faith" in a previous track however is somewhat shortsighted.

 

[johnr]

At 230 am it must have been a booze cruise, and they weren't as aware of the surroundings as they could've been.

 

[Up Y'oars]

We should be blaming the damn tree! It knows well enough to be out of the water by 10pm. However, I didn't see the nav-lights on the boat, so how would the tree know where the boat is? The back illumination rod isn't on the boat in the photo. Go look! At 2:30am, I'm sure that tree was sneaking away from the grove and trying to party his own damn self, only to get run over by some boaters!!

 

[fnznfwl]

aluminum cans don't do well against solid objects! What was this guy doing going that fast near shore. If your boating at night the first thing you do is get away from anything you can hit that way all you have to do is watch for floaters and unlit craft. Running the river at night can pucker a guy up from time to time especially when you suddenly spot a pair of skinny dippers in the headlights in the middle of the river nowhere near where people should be!



First off I was speaking more so about the light weight construction of most fishing boats whether they be aluminum or fiberglass. as far as the energy absorbed by the bending aluminum of the boat.... for the most part in situations like this does not come into play. for one to take advantage of the boat absorbing the energy of the impact just like in a car you have to be buckled in. if you arent buckled in all that is going to happen is the boat is going to stop moving and you're going to keep going until you slam into something to dissipate your own momentum and in this case it's going to be most likely the bow being ripped up in front of you or the tree itself.

Do you in fact know everything about everything? You sir are a piece of work.

 

[WormWiggler]

Maybe he just forgets the "imho" attachment to his internet ramblings. IMHO

 

[Enslow]

Re-tracing your previous GPS path works well if you're zoomed in far enough, sort of. The problem being that if you're zoomed in far enough to be very accurately re-tracing your steps, then you've also got your eyes glued to the GPS screen and not what's out in front of you. Additionally, when zoomed in that far, even marked hazards can come up so fast that you can't avoid them even when merely running @ minimum planing speed.

I'm not saying that re-tracing GPS tracks is a bad thing, not at all. "Blind Faith" in a previous track however is somewhat shortsighted.

Yes this is spot on SDMF. The trail is merely a guide to getting back. I have traveled at night alot on that big whorebag especially in winter. I take my time and make sure to be sober for those long night runs.

 

[deleted member]

Worm, the article I read said that this happened 200 yards SW of haybale campground. I think that means it was flooded trees right along shore. If I remember correctly the trees there dont come out very far there so I am thinking they were thrown from the boat into very shallow water or even onto shore. That is the only way I can see them surviving and not drowning

that tree might as well be on shore. had they not hit the tree, they would've ran aground in about 0.5 seconds. and you are right, had it been a tree anyplace other than on shore or close to a campground, nobody would've even known about it and everyone on board probably would've drowned... now way to call for help when you are laying in the water with a wet phone. someone brought up lights... i understand they were in place and on while the boat was moving. a person at the campground supposedly saw them approaching and commented on the fact that they were going rather fast and heading towards shore.

 

[shorthairsrus]

not the first and not the last --- I don't remember what year but was it not two tourney guys that hit one and resulted in a death? I have a buddy that hit a floater that turned his boat around in a 180. ND rates poorer than MN in boat safety; of course some of that has to do with the number of licensed boats that just sit on a lift and never get used.

 

[needzmore]

DL has two bars on it's shores. On the radio throughout the day you hear their two competing ads and each has a catchy phrase or slogan. One is: "Tie one on at.....". The other is: "Eat, Drink, Boat". Not a big "pc" fan, but considering they left one of these places and the impact on the resort community this has had I'm not sure people want to hear boating and drinking being pushed on the radio all day for awhile. Might be a good time to call the pr people and come up with new slogans.

 

[Jigaman]

I never even realized they could have been boating home from the bar. Kinda just assumed they were sitting around the campfire having a few and got the bright idea to launch the boat and take a cruise. does anybody know which was the case???

 

[deleted member]

Boat driver doesn't have to be drinking. Just like any other bar not on the shores. We drive there and someone drives us home. No need to hold either of those places to a higher standard imho. They are both bars like any other bar. It's no secret people go there to drink. Want them to advertise their ducky pond and bunny cage?

 

[needzmore]

I never even realized they could have been boating home from the bar. Kinda just assumed they were sitting around the campfire having a few and got the bright idea to launch the boat and take a cruise. does anybody know which was the case???

How's that saying go? Assumption is the mother of all F'ups. You assumed wrong.

 

[shorthairsrus]

GPS --- it is working for some of the lucky boys earlier this year who are wide open over the tracks on pelican.

 

[Enslow]

GPS --- it is working for some of the lucky boys earlier this year who are wide open over the tracks on pelican.

Flying over the tracks with friends and or family in the boat... Ughh what the hell is wrong with people? Cant they slow down and just enjoy fishing for what it is?

 

[SDMF]

I'd run the e side gap @ WOT, W side, not so much.

Those spots give you plenty of lead time to get things lined up, especially when it's light. I'd idle over both in the dark. In fact, in he dark I don't know I'd go any fast that what the 9.9 could push.

 

[Captain Ahab]

I'd run the e side gap @ WOT, W side, not so much.

Those spots give you plenty of lead time to get things lined up, especially when it's light. I'd idle over both in the dark. In fact, in he dark I don't know I'd go any fast that what the 9.9 could push.

I think a good rule of thumb is not to boat after dark. The mosquitos about carry you away anyway.

 

[MuskyManiac]

I think a good rule of thumb is not to boat after dark. The mosquitos about carry you away anyway.

No, I think is a good rule of thumb is to not boat like an idiot, dark or not. Awesome fishing after dark sometimes.

 

[Captain Ahab]

No, I think is a good rule of thumb is to not boat like an idiot, dark or not. Awesome fishing after dark sometimes.

I've done some night fishing and I think it is mostly overrated. But I don't musky fish or MN fish very often either. We night fished the tailrace once and I thought it was a damn zoo. Just not my cup of tea I guess.

 

[dean nelson]

You don't have to be buckled in to benefit from the decreased deceleration that a "crumpling aluminum can" provides. New cars are built that way and I'm quite sure there are many non-belted people alive today because of it.

actually by the laws of physics you do! The second the vehicle you are riding begins to decelerate at a faster rate then the force of inertia acting on one's body naturally slows you have to be strapped in otherwise you will become airborne! if you're sitting in a vehicle with built in crush zones available but are not strapped in those crush zones do you no good because the only crush zone you will experience is your body slamming into something solid. In the end if you're not buckled in it doesn't matter how safe your vehicle is.

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Maybe he just forgets the "imho" attachment to his internet ramblings. IMHO

some of us paid attention in physics class!

 

[Ericb]

actually by the laws of physics you do! The second the vehicle you are riding begins to decelerate at a faster rate then the force of inertia acting on one's body naturally slows you have to be strapped in otherwise you will become airborne! if you're sitting in a vehicle with built in crush zones available but are not strapped in those crush zones do you no good because the only crush zone you will experience is your body slamming into something solid. In the end if you're not buckled in it doesn't matter how safe your vehicle is.

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some of us paid attention in physics class!

Go bang your head against a wall and then do it with a pillow in between your head and the wall. Then tell me if the decreased deceleration makes a diffrence.