Habitat Hunting Access Summit

[zoops]

LOL - where were all these "it's a cultural institution we can't afford to lose" guys (like Kelly Armstrong) when the electronic posting bill, which we all knew would collapse access, got debated/passed?

CLASSIC

Amen to that.

 

[guywhofishes]

They could role that big mistake back I guess - IF they’re actually committed to change

 

[bravo]

Not a chance in hell no matter the game and fish’s (or any of us) stance now that the ink is dry. The e-posting bill passed in the senate 44-2 and the house 89-3. No way that many votes flip.

 

[johnr]

Maybe if you don't like it buy 20,000 acres and do your own thing...blah blah.

e-posting sucks

 

[Jiffy]

Don’t need e posting if it’s all considered posted from the get go. Just do it already!! E posting is a very small bandaid (that leaks) covering up a damn hatchet wound. I used to fight tooth and nail for keeping ND “open to hunting”, not anymore. May as well face the music and just get it over with. It’s coming anyway boys!! That’s a guarantee!!

 

[bravo]

I see where your coming from, but why give up? Do you think everything posted is their end game? No, it’s paid access everywhere. It’s landowners and outfitters allocating tags. It’s the European model, no matter what name they give it.

 

[Jiffy]

Old and tired…don’t give a flying F anymore.

 

[guywhofishes]

Old and tired…don’t give a flying F anymore.

The grandkids will never believe how good we had it.

 

[Jiffy]

I feel sorry for my kids kids. Hunting/lack there of is just the tip of the iceberg.

Not to mention fairly inconsequential compared to the other "things".

 

[bravo]

Thing is, it’s a pretty small group chipping away at the hunting and fishing in North Dakota. You see the same names every time. There’s plenty who disagree with them to make a difference but not enough stand up. Sportsmen and conservation groups are more important than ever.

 

[Zogman]

Don’t need e posting if it’s all considered posted from the get go. Just do it already!! E posting is a very small bandaid (that leaks) covering up a damn hatchet wound. I used to fight tooth and nail for keeping ND “open to hunting”, not anymore. May as well face the music and just get it over with. It’s coming anyway boys!! That’s a guarantee!!

Sadly you my friend are very CORRECT!

 

[Reprobait]

With E-posting you at least have a name and maybe a phone number. If everything gets treated as posted finding out who to ask gets a lot more difficult.

 

[measure-it]

If all these ranchers/farmers/land-owners are getting subsities from the gov'nmt (our tax $$}, then they should allow access to be able to suck on the gov'nmt teet! It's crazy the amount of $$ some of these are getting!

 

[tikkalover]

Baa haa haa, bitch all you want about farmers and ranchers posting THEIR land and getting subsidies from the government, I for one, will not bitch about what they get because I like to EAT. Buy your own fucking land if you don't like them posting everything up. Then you can post your own shit.

 

[bravo]

This is the same counterproductive argument it always devolves into. Farmers don’t owe anyone access. Hunters aren’t slobs who treat land like shit. And most hunters and farmers can’t afford land anymore.

Luckily there are some things legislatively that can get the ball rolling to incentivize access. I think first habitat needs to be addressed. Scarce game and habitat = scare access.

 

[wslayer]

With E-posting you at least have a name and maybe a phone number. If everything gets treated as posted finding out who to ask gets a lot more difficult.

Bad thing is with all the telemarketing bullshit, nobody answers phone anymore unless number is recognized.
I for one as long as it as gone this far with e-posting, think it should just be one way or the other. The BS of looking on Onx or looking for posters really sucks. At least you could kind of make a game plan at home of what /where you wanted to hunt if unfamiliar with the area. Just my .02

 

[Kurtr]

Since all i have ever done is ask permission all i do is leave a message. I have always gotten a call back with a yes or no. Over the years the land owners must either save my number it seems most of the places we go they answer every time.

 

[johnr]

I friended several farmers/ranchers in my area, and have thousands of premium acres to chose from. My boy on the other hand has rode my coattails for his hunting life, and will soon find out getting the land to hunt that we have come to enjoy wont be quite as easy when I am not taking the lead.

 

[zoops]

Had time to go back and watch a decent share of the video. Couple things that raised my eyebrows a bit were when Kevin Kading was talking around the 54' mark and threw out a number of $150M/year to support 3 million acres of habitat. Would be an interesting topic for the legislature to throw more money at conservation, but probably a hard sell in our conservative ag-dominated state.
The landowner's comments were interesting. Sounded like he lets people hunt and has quite a bit of land in plots, but also mentioned not letting people hunt if they pull in to his yard dressed up in camo with a truck full of gear, saying that he'd like people to stop by before the season.
The comments from Rep. Anderson (about 1:48:00) I thought were kind of weak when he was asked about potential ways to help habitat issues saying "it's tough to find money for habitat" but that we have marginal farmland that could be planted to sorghum or hemp and that we have farmsteads that provide habitat - not sure what he was getting at with the farmstead comment.
Was pleased to hear Rep. Porter say that it's probably time to tweak NR waterfowl numbers and it was a little annoying to hear him say they've found solutions over the years. IMO they haven't, they've just made it a free for all for NR.
Obviously no real solutions were presented but hopefully the conversations continue.

 

[Tymurrey]

I have it on my radar yet to watch. The problem i see is that habitat costs plenty of money and time without seeing quick results. All the trees i'm planting i may get to enjoy after retirement. Trees cost lots of money and time after the initial planting with time in care and replacements. I'm working on doing more tall native grasses but with spray and prep and weed control i'm not sure if i can afford or keep up with it. All this along with the loss of rental income from pasture or cropland. I'm putting in some small plots of alfalfa too since most of our alfalfa fields got broke up for cropland and it seems like for bugs and food it works pretty good. Something I was thinking about this weekend was that as farms get bigger it seems like the farmers get less chance to enjoy hunting because they are always busy and less farmers getting to enjoy hunting. When farms were smaller there was more farmers who hunted and valued the wildlife more for their enjoyment. Habitat and hunting are definitely in a cultural shift.