homeowner was charged with manslaughter for shooting at home invasion suspects

[Obi-Wan]

this could get interesting

http://bit.ly/2kOxhB6

"He told police that he, Embertson and a third man -- 18-year-old Cornelius Ayers -- were at Pettersen's home to "case" it for a future burglary."

 

[Bfishn]

Never shoot somebody unless your life is in immediate danger. This guy is screwed.

 

[Phill Latio]

just another reason no to live in MN

 

[westwolfone]

Yep, very irresponsible.

 

[Bfishn]

just another reason no to live in MN

You would be charged in ND too.

 

[FishSticks]

one less irresponsible gun owner and one less future felon on the street

 

[remm]

Yep, tough call on these types of cases.
Shooting someone while they are obviously fleeing, bad idea.
Climbing around somebody else's property and checking for open windows and doors another bad idea.
If you don't shoot one of them, they most likely all 3 get away and will be breaking into somebody else's house in the future, possibly his. My guess is the 2 that lived will probably think twice the next time they think about robbing somebody.
Tough to pick sides in a case like this, but I'd side with the property owner most of the time. Be tough to show restraint on someone who put your family and property in danger.
Damn those kids for putting that guy in that position. Bad deal for all family's involved.

 

[johnr]

I don't think I would shoot as they are fleeing. They are breaking a window getting in, or already in, might be a different story.

 

[westwolfone]

They wouldn't have gotten away with it. One kid had a broken ankle.

He said he was trying to shoot out a car tire. Too many movies and zero respect for the weapon he was holding.

 

[Sum1]

Sucks for this homeowner. As far as the burglar, thats the price you pay for being a lowlife.

 

[BrokenBackJack]

Bad deal all around and i feel for the homeowner. If he felt he needed to fire off a round or two he should have shot into the ground that would have scared the crap out of them too. I am guessing he didn't know the one had a broken ankle.
It is easy to say one would trip the trigger if someone comes into your house or at least tries to. If you do that you will have to live with it the rest of your life. Whether you are right or wrong it will haunt you to your dying day if you have a conscience, believe me. Even when family or friends are at risk and you know for sure it is justified it will still haunt you. Don't ever be in a rush to drop the hammer as it can't be taken back once it is done. I fully believe in the right to protect ones family and property, i just want you to be aware of how the future will be for you once you do that even if you are justified in doing so.

 

[remm]

I agree with you, the man acted carelessly when opening fire in this situation and should have used better judgement. With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if the broken ankle kid and his family sue him for breaking his leg.

The 2 surviving kids better dam well get more than a slap on the wrist for their involvement or they won't learn a dam thing.

They wouldn't have gotten away with it. One kid had a broken ankle.

He said he was trying to shoot out a car tire. Too many movies and zero respect for the weapon he was holding.

 

[Petras]

While I agree with you guys in the sense of don't shoot someone that is running away, this guy would go free in ND... in fact this has already happened in ND.... state vs. Tallman about 3 years ago.... shot my cousin in the back as he was running away in the street. Got off on the murder charges but did Did end up getting convicted for stealing a safe and some cash from my cousin though. Cocksucker got out of jail and has been in the paper numerous times for beating hiso wife and threatening to murder her... and their kids...

 

[H82bogey]

And this is a reason I think it's important to have a license for CCW. Yes, I understand this was a home invasion and not CCW, but this homeowner should know better. It's important for anyone that wants to defend themselves with a firearm that you can only defend yourself with lethal force when there is a threat on your life or somebody else's. Once the threat stops you can no longer use lethal force. Could be a guy running away, or could be you shot the guy twice and he was out of the fight. My point being that there is more to self defense than just knowing how to shoot your weapon. It's also about understanding that your actions have consequences, and some can be bad for the defender.

I understand what the home owner did in this case, and honestly, I might do the exact same thing. It's easy to be an armchair lawyer. Never know what a person would do when it's your own home/life/family and the adrenaline gets pumping.

 

[johnr]

The odds of this event or any like this ever actually happening to any of us are slim at best.
Lets hope none of us ever find out.

 

[eyexer]

And this is a reason I think it's important to have a license for CCW. Yes, I understand this was a home invasion and not CCW, but this homeowner should know better. It's important for anyone that wants to defend themselves with a firearm that you can only defend yourself with lethal force when there is a threat on your life or somebody else's. Once the threat stops you can no longer use lethal force. Could be a guy running away, or could be you shot the guy twice and he was out of the fight. My point being that there is more to self defense than just knowing how to shoot your weapon. It's also about understanding that your actions have consequences, and some can be bad for the defender.

I understand what the home owner did in this case, and honestly, I might do the exact same thing. It's easy to be an armchair lawyer. Never know what a person would do when it's your own home/life/family and the adrenaline gets pumping.

no it just means if your going to own a gun and carry a gun you need to know the laws and how to act responsibly. a CCW doesn't insure anybody will do that.

 

[dean nelson]

Well from the looks of it both sides loose and as a result we all win with the removal of two dumb shits! I for one don't feel bad for either side.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

Meh. I'm glad the home owner shot the guy. Too bad he was shot while fleeing.

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Texas would have approved the outcome.

 

[sweeney]

And this is a reason I think it's important to have a license for CCW. Yes, I understand this was a home invasion and not CCW, but this homeowner should know better. It's important for anyone that wants to defend themselves with a firearm that you can only defend yourself with lethal force when there is a threat on your life or somebody else's. Once the threat stops you can no longer use lethal force. Could be a guy running away, or could be you shot the guy twice and he was out of the fight. My point being that there is more to self defense than just knowing how to shoot your weapon. It's also about understanding that your actions have consequences, and some can be bad for the defender.

I understand what the home owner did in this case, and honestly, I might do the exact same thing. It's easy to be an armchair lawyer. Never know what a person would do when it's your own home/life/family and the adrenaline gets pumping.

So a concealed permit would have stopped this? Common sense would have, maybe a ccw not! That's like saying a drivers license will stop people from breaking traffic laws.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Even though it was wrong --- i hope the next teen thinks twice before robbing. Where the law fails is those who do get caught need to have a branding or some type of torture -- so nobody even thinks of robbing. Its time this country steps up a little and allow us law abiding people to sleep at night.