M3, yea or nay?

[BDub]

This week I saw two polls showing that 60% were in favor of legalization.

50% of the country has smoked pot.

The fact that Hemp is illegal is beyond ridiculous.

I can fully understand why sober addicts don't relish the idea of legal pot.

I smoked plenty of pot when I was between 20 and 30. Then had no time for it as family and business were way more important. After drinking 20,000 beers or so I got tired of that. Way too many problems in my life from alcohol.

Sooner or later it will be legal. Not a big issue with me either way. Life will go on.

If I ever retire I hope to sit back and enjoy getting loaded again. My drug of choice is coffee now. Always will be. Just have very little time for being under the influence of anything besides life in general.

Work hard, play hard and take care of yourself. You only get one chance.

 

[JayKay]

How many of the staunch no voters on this measure would sign a petition or be a yes vote if a measure came about next voting cycle prohibiting alcohol again. It doesn’t have the medicinal value of mj, is readily available to kids, it ruins the lives of anyone not responsible enough to handle it like an adult, it leads to other crimes like dui, abuse to wives/children. Basically all the bad things you guys are saying and more. Oh forgot about the gateway drug argument. Bet not too many people have moved on to drugs that didn’t drink first. Anyone anyone beuhler beuhler

If you are asking a serious question, then go back and read this entire thread.

I know I'd be rode out of town on a rail, but I would sign that measure. Alcohol has as little merit as recreational MJ, in my opinion. but I'm just one guy.

I just don't see the benefit to making pot legal, recreationally. If this is TRULY the only way to get to a point where it is available medically, then I guess it's worth it. If making it legal recreationally is the ONLY WAY to get it for cancer patients, etc. Then okay.

but I doubt that this is the only way. I suppose it might currently be the best way, or maybe looks like the quickest way...

I think recreationally, it's bad for you. and our kids. and our towns. and our taxes. one by one, I have heard the arguments. I'm swaying a bit, because I can imagine the despair that some are feeling, when they're unable to get it legally, medically. But for those who just want the choice to get high..? Aren't there enough drugs out there now?

I don't enjoy the thought of revamping a law, to legalize something that is currently illegal, just so someone can blaze away.

 

[Achucker]

In previously post with video it was said that you could get mm it was impossible. Or maybe it just took a couple years to get things together.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news...al-dispensary-prepares-to-open-498680671.html

 

[Twitch]

In previously post with video it was said that you could get mm it was impossible. Or maybe it just took a couple years to get things together.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news...al-dispensary-prepares-to-open-498680671.html

I would go along with this if we were the first state that tried to pass it medically. But we were like the 25th state to pass it medicinally. There were plenty of templates to mold our law after and it probably could have happened faster than in two years.

 

[Enslow]

Chuck if you want to spend your time trying to help those with addictions that would be a nice gesture. But to sit and preach to a group of grown men on a fishing site is a complete waste of your time. K bye.

 

[701FishSlayer]

Why don't you guys start asking people around you if they qualify for medical marijuana. Go ahead and start finding out the truth that 3 out of 4 will not qualify.

 

[CatDaddy]

Why don't you guys start asking people around you if they qualify for medical marijuana. Go ahead and start finding out the truth that 3 out of 4 will not qualify.

How many of the 1 out of 4 will be able to afford it?

 

[1bigfokker]

http://www.jamestownsun.com/busines...marijuana-manufacturing-facility-gets-started

article with informative links

 

[CatDaddy]

https://www.inforum.com/business/he...marijuana-manufacturing-facility-gets-started

- - - Updated - - -

http://www.jamestownsun.com/business/healthcare/4520002-nds-first-medical-marijuana-manufacturing-facility-gets-started

Basically the same article with informative links

Some still won't be able to access it. According to the inforum link, CHI St. Alexius Health won't offer it because federal law supersedes state law. Between legal hoops, medical hoops, cost, and individual business choices, recreational legalization still offers the best way to ensure those who can benefit from it will have access.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/08/06/632469743/how-one-familys-fight-with-epilepsy-led-to-the-first-marijuana-based-pharmaceuti

Read the story above. Was 2 years of legislational bull shit worth denying access to families like this? Oh, great, it's now semi-accessible to those who can get to Sanford. This family, were they to live in ND 2 years ago, would have had false hope and either waited and waited and waited......or decided to uproot and move the whole family at great emotional and financial cost. It is NOT trivial that the legislature messed this up for 2 full years when put in perspective.

Anyone ever WebMD'd medical symptoms? Check out their take on pain relief from MJ:

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20180420/can-marijuana-be-the-answer-for-pain

You'll have to copy and paste the addresses....for some reason they're not posting as a link.

 

[Achucker]

Good read cat. And I'm being sincere. It strengthens my view that the research needs to be done to get pharmaceutical grade into the hands of the people that need it. It truly sucks this wasn't done years ago and people had to suffer this long.

 

[CatDaddy]

Thanks Chucker.....it's the reason I'm passionate. I'm not looking to let people "blaze" 'cause it's cool. It's something that has so much anecdotal evidence that it can do good that it can't be ignored. The "pothead" argument is only a piece of it, and when compared with alcohol I just don't care. Let's help those that we can. I can't imagine that being my kid or my parent who needed relief.....

Federal "regulation" has prevented study on the potential benefit. Let the states speak loudly. Oh, wait, we already did. And we're STILL waiting. I'd come unglued if my child was going through this and there was hope....yet legislators blocked my hope because they know better than us.

 

[Achucker]

Thanks Chucker.....it's the reason I'm passionate. I'm not looking to let people "blaze" 'cause it's cool. It's something that has so much anecdotal evidence that it can do good that it can't be ignored. The "pothead" argument is only a piece of it, and when compared with alcohol I just don't care. Let's help those that we can. I can't imagine that being my kid or my parent who needed relief.....

Federal "regulation" has prevented study on the potential benefit. Let the states speak loudly. Oh, wait, we already did. And we're STILL waiting. I'd come unglued if my child was going through this and there was hope....yet legislators blocked my hope because they know better than us.

Well. I am glad we can agree on something. Got a little heated there for awhile. I would only that this is a drug with great medical potential but also has a side of it (although probably not as severe as alcohol )that I dont think needs to be in the hands of the general public to "self medicate" I also understand to alot this isn't a big deal but that is why I am so passionate. I feel there are alternatives to dealing with things than just having a joint or beer to make stress go away.

 

[CatDaddy]

Well. I am glad we can agree on something. Got a little heated there for awhile. I would only that this is a drug with great medical potential but also has a side of it (although probably not as severe as alcohol )that I dont think needs to be in the hands of the general public to "self medicate" I also understand to alot this isn't a big deal but that is why I am so passionate. I feel there are alternatives to dealing with things than just having a joint or beer to make stress go away.

I'm glad we came to mutual understanding of each other's passion on this subject. I get your point and agree a society that can deal with life sans alcohol or weed is better than the alternative. For me, if legal MJ cuts into the opioid, alcohol, or other self-medication then it's the lesser of the evils simply because it may benefit those who need it. The same can't be said about alcohol and it's not going away.

I don't know how many ads I've seen for medicines that literally list side effects for 20-30 seconds....I switch the channel because my young kids don't need to hear "this medication may lead to bleeding bowels, rotting flesh, brain damage, testicle growths....". Ok, I exaggerate a bit, but you know what I'm talking about.

Glad we can finally understand each other. Thank you for your sincerity and passion about life.

 

[Achucker]

I appreciate you view. And to look at cannabis differently. I will be more opt to change people's view on the potential of this plant and hopefully in the near future the feds reschedule it.

On a different side of this measure I am really curious how you feel about sealing of all records.

 

[CatDaddy]

Not sure why they included that in the measure......On a philosophical level I understand it - if it's now deemed not a crime, why should it have been a crime then? However it seems like it hinders the measure itself. I'm not hung up on it. It frees up LEO resources for worse things.

However, I'm a personal-responsibility guy and think that if you knew it was wrong and did it anyway then you should accept the consequences.

You are still a "no" vote, correct? I'm a yes....respectfully.

 

[Achucker]

Still a no for me but a whole lot stronger on getting feds to get there heads out of their butts and our state guys fixing what we do have.

 

[CatDaddy]

Still a no for me but a whole lot stronger on getting feds to get there heads out of their butts and our state guys fixing what we do have.

You idiot!!! No, I'm only kidding and referring to our previous exchanges....I respect your opinion and appreciate the honest discussion we've had recently. I'm sorry if I came off harsh previously. I'd only ask you to really examine your stance and what the measure offers for pros vs. cons on all aspects of recreational legalization. It may do more good than you originally thought and help the cause for federal change. Again, thanks for your honesty on the matter. Our state voices do matter....which is why I'm so irate about the path our legislature has taken after 61%+ spoke up and passed medical MJ. I'm off to bed now.....

 

[Lycanthrope]

get a room guys...

 

[1bigfokker]

Here's a weed to be concerned about.
http://www.jamestownsun.com/busines...maranth-found-four-more-north-dakota-counties

 

[Davey Crockett]

This link is why we will never see the medical industry embrace medical MJ as a whole. Navigate around the website and search your doctor or medical provider. Big bucks on the table , I'd say there are probably big bucks under the table too.


Pretty amazing information but somehow it seems to have been snuffed out and not kept up to date. They probably run out of funding and found a better paying source of income #$%^&>

https://projects.propublica.org/doc...ate=ND&commit=Search&sort=total&sort_dir=desc