North Dakota Game Wardens Assc

[LBrandt]

A couple of things:

It is just we can not or will not police ourselves. Rules are made for a reason and one reason is to break them and another is to made rules that are easy to break. Yes I am embarrassed for a few previous moments in life.

I been told any wild game meat is more expense than what is at the grocery store and does not taste as good (beef is why God made cows).

You can not depend or trust anyone 100% of the time.
As my friend told me his friend shot a deer, put a tag on and then walk about 100 yards to the gravel road where his hunting buddy was to get help dragging it up to the vehicle. He got a $100 fine and lost his rifle for hunting after he had shot his deer. And that is why we may not all love and trust our game wardens. db[/QUOT

 

[Obi-Wan]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

 

[Walleye_Chaser]

Technically it's not any different, still illegal. I've seen someone get popped for catching others fish in the boat. My brother also got a warning for shooting 1 duck over his limit when with the group. Warden was a long ways off counting through the binos.

 

[Fly Carpin]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

No. My friends and I like to kill our own. More about having fun and being outside than getting a precious limit or breaking laws to fill deer tags

 

[Captain Ahab]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

Same. People just get more wound up about big game.

 

[Bfishn]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

Big game is a much more limited resource. I would be willing to bet most people have party hunted pheasants or walleye, but wouldn't think of doing it for deer. If you think its the same go shoot 1 pheasant over your limit and turn yourself in, do the same for deer and see if the results are the same. Report back with results of your study

 

[Ericb]

Let's play devil's advocate here. The gnf see's a problem.(party hunting) They say "how could we prevent this". I agree we don't need more laws but honestly this doesn't sound to ridiculous to me. If you really want to shoot a coyote and know the law exists would it be that hard to bring a second rifle? How many would actually shoot a coyote while a friend was hunting deer?

 

[Mort]

Lots of 2 cents on this one concerning the 'party hunting'. When deer hunting, more times than not, its just me and another individual in so called party. In all cases, I make it clear that I don't shoot others deer and they don't shoot mine, period.

I had a buddy who in no longer with us shoot my deer back in the 90's, it was a 5 X 5 with a down tine, so I wasn't too happy it ended my season without pulling the trigger, I argued with him that I get to shoot his..and man did he get all rossted up about that, but he had no problem shooting mine. I actually quit deer hunting with him quite a few years before he passed, more so because one or the other was not getting a tag and his hunting ethics were getting to the point it was not to my liking.

If I get my deer and my hunting partner hasn't, I should still be able to enjoy hunting other species (coyotes, fox and etc) will he finds a deer. And my gun well serve as back up if he has trouble with his, trust me I had trouble with my gun last year when I had a deer in my sights and the gun wouldn't fire. I did have a second gun but it was back on the farm in my truck and we were using his truck when this incident happened.

Party hunting were everyone shoots everyone else's deer...NO

 

[Flatrock]

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would let someone else shoot their deer. Especially in times like this where you only get a single rifle tag a year. Maybe back in the days of multiple tags, but I would have serious issues with someone shooting a deer and expecting my season to be over.

Totally true.

The party hunting problem is from the other direction though. The problem with party hunting is when somebody has their buddies/relatives/whoever apply for a deer tag. 3 or 4 people end up with buck tags that could really care less and then somebody else just shoots it for them. It takes away tags from people who actually want to hunt.

What's the solution? I don't know. Too many people are assholes though and it would be very difficult to change.

 

[ndlongshot]

If anyone I am hunting with shoots my deer, including buddies/family, I will call the game warden and hand them the phone.

This doesnt even seem possible with my group. But maybe other groups have a lower cumulative IQ. Probably from Minnesota................:;:.

Sorta.

 

[guywhofishes]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

you're really equating walleyes to deer on THIS web site after all the bitching about not getting a tag for years? ha ha

if it took five years to draw a walleye tag you bet your sweet ### people would care

 

[SupressYourself]

How many of you boys have ever caught more than your limit of fish to fill the live well when fishing with others? Have any of you ever shot more than you limit in geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse when hunting with a group? if you answered yes how is this any different than party hunting deer?

I think others have covered this already, but it's much different because none of the other things you mention are lottery-based. Party hunting encourages people to fill tags for their relatives and buddies that otherwise never would have applied at all, thus diluting the lottery.
Aren't you "Mr. One-Tag System"? I forget... If so, you of all people should be interested in increasing your chances in the lottery.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I am not advocating for either way I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.

you're really equating walleyes to deer on THIS web site after all the bitching about not getting a tag for years? ha ha

if it took five years to draw a walleye tag you bet your sweet ### people would care

 

[gst]

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[Obi-Wan]

If its not a issue why does NDGF have a law against it?

I think others have covered this already, but it's much different because none of the other things you mention are lottery-based. Party hunting encourages people to fill tags for their relatives and buddies that otherwise never would have applied at all, thus diluting the lottery.
Aren't you "Mr. One-Tag System"? I forget... If so, you of all people should be interested in increasing your chances in the lottery.

 

[Ericb]

Road hunters party hunters there are so many things that make deer season unpleasant these days. It kind makes a guy want to spend the extra buck and find a good high fence operation and shoot his deer in piece.

 

[gst]

Yes. You should be fined.

It seems people that are concerned if it was a buck or a doe, or think that this particular instance the hangmans noose should be tightened perhaps have forgotten what hunting is about.

To me I care less whether party hunting is allowed or not, It was merely an example offered that showed sometimes laws are not one size fits all and often times such as the caliber and tag with the mount merely a way to tighten the screws.

I was in Bowbells at the advisory meeting the year Hildenbrand announced this new law went into effect requiring tags to be on deer forever.
I asked how they would determine 5 years down the road what deer had been shot before the law and that people would be assumed guilty would be required to prove our innocence as a result of this law. He claimed to everyone there it was not intended to be used in that manner. I asked why have the law then.

That winter at an archery shop I walked in as the warden was telling the fella that owned it he would have to provide documentation of some sort as to when the deer on his wall were shot..........

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GST... you are not do well in arguing your point.

So if a dad is an A-hole and shoots his kid's deer, we should change the law because he is not going to follow the law anyway??? That is some solid logic.

I don't care if he is on a fixed retired military income, I appreciate HIS service, but that doesn't give YOU any more right to shoot an extra buck. If he really wanted venison, sounds like you took care of it by sending a couple deers worth of meat back with him. However, you paying for the shipping doesn't give you the right to shoot two bucks.

Could you show where I said the law should be changed?? We are talking about implementing laws (caliber limitations, ect) that have flaws with in them that often the G&F care little about.

Can you show where I assumed it gave me the "right" to shoot two bucks or that they were even bucks?

Would you be alright with it if they were two does?

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you're really equating walleyes to deer on THIS web site after all the bitching about not getting a tag for years? ha ha

if it took five years to draw a walleye tag you bet your sweet ### people would care

For those claiming it is the law, what is the difference if it is a goose or a deer?

Antlers seem to make people a bit crazy.

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I think others have covered this already, but it's much different because none of the other things you mention are lottery-based. Party hunting encourages people to fill tags for their relatives and buddies that otherwise never would have applied at all, thus diluting the lottery.
Aren't you "Mr. One-Tag System"? I forget... If so, you of all people should be interested in increasing your chances in the lottery.

there are laws making it illegal so why is breaking those any different?

 

[guywhofishes]

jaywalking, kidnapping, murder... what’s the diff? not much apparently

they’re all breaking the law so don’t be bitching about kidnappers or murderers if you’ve ever jaywalked

derp derp derp

 

[gst]

Actually the penalty for jay walking is not the same as murder such as I would guess penalties for big game violations are not the same as upland birds or fishing.

What the hell is "derp, derp, derp" anyways. I heard one of my 6th grade daughters class mates saying that.

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They held the G&F advisory meeting up here the same night as the buck contest in the neighboring town. Likely be a slim turn out.

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I wonder how many people here have ever threw a deer in their buddys pickup that drove out in the field to load it and then got in their own pickup without transferring said deer to their pickup or vice versa .........

 

[SupressYourself]

If its not a issue why does NDGF have a law against it?

I didn't say it wasn't an issue. I said it's different. Party hunting big game has a much broader impact.
Someone putting an extra walleye in the livewell instead of his buddy doesn't impact my chances of getting a fishing license.