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……. My neighbor’s 22 year old kid that lives at home thinks their 2k acres isn’t enough so he runs his sxs past their signs and though everyone else’s stuff at will to drive deer. He also had the nerve to ask me if he could e-post my land.
If this is happening you need to document it, inform the game warden and be willing to prosecute!!
 


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If this is happening you need to document it, inform the game warden and be willing to prosecute!!
I suspected it was him a few times but had no proof. Last spring him and his girlfriend showed up on camera shed hunting. After a man to man with his dad (he wouldn’t show his face) he’s stayed out of my stuff. Can’t say the same for the neighbors.
 

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If i dont have the number i stop and talk to them. If they tell me know i say thank you for your time. Being polite has gained me permission later on when I have asked at a latter time. The old catch more bees with honey thing
This is how I do it. I am thinking of getting a beater chevy to go hunting in though. I might have better success.
 

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I do agree it is hard to get permission. I pose a question since I am actually looking for a landowner that would allow me to shoot long range (no hunting). Is it preferable to call or to stop at the yard to talk to the landowner? Calling is difficult to find a working number and getting someone to answer or call back. Stopping in the yard usually upsets someone enough that the answer is automatic no. So I would take suggestions from those that have no problem getting on private land.

Define "long range". The Bismarck Mandan Rifle Pistol Association has a range down near Moffit that goes out to 1,000 yds.

It's been a few years since I've been a member, but the range is pretty decent. My biggest issue with it is the roof on the outdoor shooting line REALLY ups the need for good hearing protection.

https://www.bmrpa.org/shooting-ranges
 


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Define "long range". The Bismarck Mandan Rifle Pistol Association has a range down near Moffit that goes out to 1,000 yds.

It's been a few years since I've been a member, but the range is pretty decent. My biggest issue with it is the roof on the outdoor shooting line REALLY ups the need for good hearing protection.

https://www.bmrpa.org/shooting-ranges
Yup, that can get loud. Always where hearing protection though.
 

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Define "long range". The Bismarck Mandan Rifle Pistol Association has a range down near Moffit that goes out to 1,000 yds.

It's been a few years since I've been a member, but the range is pretty decent. My biggest issue with it is the roof on the outdoor shooting line REALLY ups the need for good hearing protection.

https://www.bmrpa.org/shooting-ranges
I have looked into that club but after evaluating the fees and when I would be able to shoot I would have better luck going to the public range. Their range hosts numerous activities when I would be able to shoot and the 1000 yard is usually shut down majority of the time again when I am able to shoot
 

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if the # of phone calls i get per day is any representation of the number of waterfowl hunters out there with lack of access to places holding birds, i would say we are about at a tipping point. folks are going to stop driving 1-1000 miles to spend their time and hard earned money to be lucky to scratch out one or two remotely decent hunts. fwiw, we do let people hunt. but, just a group/day or every other day. anymore and the birds leave or become unhuntable. but, for every group that gets access, another 5-10 get turned down. and i only assume most other calls they place are even harder to get access. could be wrong on that. tis definitely a problem. outfitters taking tens of thousands of acres out of the question in a given area certainly puts more pressure on whatever is left out there too.
 

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I have looked into that club but after evaluating the fees and when I would be able to shoot I would have better luck going to the public range. Their range hosts numerous activities when I would be able to shoot and the 1000 yard is usually shut down majority of the time again when I am able to shoot
This is why I am no longer a member.
 

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Guess I can't go hunt elk in national forests because I own one quarter... :rolleyes:
Obi, go spend hundreds of thousands on land, and then tens of thousands more and hundreds of hours of labor on habitat improvement that benefits the whole area, then tell us how "greedy" we are.
Nope your're done LOL
 


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I do agree it is hard to get permission. I pose a question since I am actually looking for a landowner that would allow me to shoot long range (no hunting). Is it preferable to call or to stop at the yard to talk to the landowner? Calling is difficult to find a working number and getting someone to answer or call back. Stopping in the yard usually upsets someone enough that the answer is automatic no. So I would take suggestions from those that have no problem getting on private land.
What I find works the best for me is NOT to show up when they are busy.
IMO if they are around in the late winter that is always a good time to stop.

Think about it, when would you like someone to show up unannounced to ask a favor of you - doesn't even have to be hunting related. Sure wouldn't be the opening weekend of pheasant hunting when 10,000 others have already bothered me because they saw some roosters on my property.

You can always stop at the local cafe when the local ranchers are inside for a cup of coffee. They are usually very friendly then.
 

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The ONLY way you’re ever gonna have guaranteed land to hunt and not have to compete with everyone else on public or unposted private is buy it yourself. That’s the ONLY way in this day and age.

Otherwise stand in line or get ready to share with everyone else.

This is the way it is now, its NEVER going to change, and if it does it will be for the worse.

People are starting to realize this, and for many, it’s just the beginning to the end of their hunting days.

For many of the “frustrated” its just not worth it and I don’t blame them.

Not my own personal experience mind you, just an honest observation throughout the years.

I don’t care what anyone claims, you’re blind if you can’t see access is MUCH worse now than even a decade ago!! That or you don’t want to because you’ve become part of the problem.

Whatever…your mom’s sister’s brother can hunt this weekend and the next your dog’s second cousin’ cat has permission….very well. (Maybe a little sarcasm there….)
^^^This^^^^
 

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The one thing I can say is I have never been ass chewed for shooting a coyote on posted land, and in fact has opened up some opportunities to pursue some other game
 


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I do believe license for out of state sgould sky rocket. Yes they bring in tax revenue when here I get that argument but I believe they would still come with higher fees.
Double the fees and half would come…revenue would stay the same.... this would help a lot with pressure and access issues. I pay out of my ass to hunt in other states…. They can here too. And before anyone of you cucks says “what about the kids from other states……” i don’t give a damn about kids from other states. I give a damn about kids from this state being pushed out of hunting or parents not introducing them to hunting because of the shit show it’s become with the access issues.
 

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Double the fees and half would come…revenue would stay the same.... this would help a lot with pressure and access issues. I pay out of my ass to hunt in other states…. They can here too. And before anyone of you cucks says “what about the kids from other states……” i don’t give a damn about kids from other states. I give a damn about kids from this state being pushed out of hunting or parents not introducing them to hunting because of the shit show it’s become with the access issues.
Years ago when my kids were growing up. Teacher conversations was always a busy 4 or 5 days for us and the kids. We would hunt hard for them 4 or 5 days and have some good hunts. I ran into the local game warden and I asked him about what he sees for youth hunters. He told me the nonresident had 10 kids to every 1 resident hunters that he seen. It's a shame that nonresident were showing the resident up. No wonder sportsman didn't like the nonresident hunter. To tell you the true I believe the residents were jealous of what was going on. The thing is nonresident took a whole week off and hunt hard for the week. They came to hunt and they did.
 

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Well that depends….. while frolicking out west in gods country do you allow access to your non pheasant producing acres for other sportsman to enjoy a lesser than gods country (but still moderately decent) outdoor experience?
Funny you ask- my thread on here looking for elk hunters got 0 results- but i have let 2 people shoot elk (330" bull and cow) this year with others still hunting. i haven't shot anything since 2019 yet lots deer, elk, and turkeys have been shot on mine. some landowners are dicks and some hunters are too. ruins it for everyone both ways.

side note- a lot of insurance companies want your land posted now for liability issues i have neighbors that don't hunt post theirs for that reason- if you call them they'd say hunt all you want but their not liable.
 

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Funny you ask- my thread on here looking for elk hunters got 0 results- but i have let 2 people shoot elk (330" bull and cow) this year with others still hunting. i haven't shot anything since 2019 yet lots deer, elk, and turkeys have been shot on mine. some landowners are dicks and some hunters are too. ruins it for everyone both ways.

side note- a lot of insurance companies want your land posted now for liability issues i have neighbors that don't hunt post theirs for that reason- if you call them they'd say hunt all you want but their not liable.

Make sure to someday remind your neighbors that in ND landowners are specifically protected by law from frivolous lawsuits by people who enter their land to hunt for free. Now, if they charge for hunting...well, that's different.
 

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Make sure to someday remind your neighbors that in ND landowners are specifically protected by law from frivolous lawsuits by people who enter their land to hunt for free. Now, if they charge for hunting...well, that's different.
“North Dakota Century Code 53-08-04 protects landowners who lease their land to the state for recreational purposes from liability if a hunter is injured on the property.”

I don’t know how many legislators tried telling telling me different; that we needed e-posting to protect landowners from lawsuits and that’s why they voted for it. They couldn’t even be bothered to read the statutes and constitution they swore to support.
 


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