US fish and Wildlife Service

[Jiffy]

You should see what the military does with the money they hoarded at the end of the fiscal year.

I’ve ruined more than a few barrels blowing off “year end ammo”.

For the record, it’s a blast!! (pun intended)

 

[lunkerslayer]

The USFWS service's financial model is broken. When I worked with them it was a use it or lose it type budget. Refuges spent their allotted amounts every year whether it was necessary or not. Even as a college kid I could see the absolutely insane amount of wasteful spending. Refuges were able to trade funds to get larger amounts of money to actually build or create worthwhile projects. This I thought was good but they all had huge budgets. At the time the refuge manager also would create many hours of overtime for himself doing pointless tasks. So yes there is a lot of LARD to be trimmed. This was nearly 20 years ago so I am assuming it has gotten worse.

Thats majority if not all state and federal agencies do when it comes to fiscal funding, if they dont use it they will get less next year. So they end up wasting it to make sure they get the same or more next year. Every government agencies needs its very own doge to fine and eliminate waste.

 

[bravo]

I’ve ruined more than a few barrels blowing off “year end ammo”.

For the record, it’s a blast!! (pun intended)

Until it’s time to police brass & clean the heavy weapons!

 

[Jiffy]

My main MOS was 0311 so I didn’t get the privilege of cleaning heavy weapons very often. We sure as hell carried their shit for them though. ALL the time!!

 

[Wall-eyes]

Did you find anything to hunt on federal land last year? most of the ranchers have it grazed down to fairway length. Cows everywhere not a single deer is what I saw on 90% of it south of Medora

I agree over a lot of year damn mouse would starve to dealth.

 

[PrairieGhost]

You should see what the military does with the money they hoarded at the end of the fiscal year.

It’s not the FWS’s model that’s broken, it’s the entire government’s model of “reward spending, punish saving”. If the agencies were allowed the autonomy roll money over, they could actually prioritize budget for more expensive projects. Instead they either have to beg congress, or apply for grants. On the other hand there are accountability benefits to that process.

Spend it or they take it back at the end of the year. The problem isn't the employee, the problem is the waste created by the rules.

 

[NDSportsman]

Spend it or they take it back at the end of the year. The problem isn't the employee, the problem is the waste created by the rules.

I agree. What should be happening is spend what is needed and what isn't spent should go back into the coffers and that shouldn't have anything to do with future budgets.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Yep we, American taxpayers should not need to pay more out every year for money that is used on pet projects. A business that used that same philosophy would be tits up already.

 

[Icepirate]

Did you find anything to hunt on federal land last year? most of the ranchers have it grazed down to fairway length. Cows everywhere not a single deer is what I saw on 90% of it south of Medora

Didn't hunt federal land in ND last year but my brother killed a nice bull elk on federal land in Wyoming. I shot on nice bull on federal land in Wyoming in 2023. I've killed antelope on federal land in ND and Wyoming. Yes some of it's definitely over-grazed. the difference is if it was ND state land it would still be over-grazed and probably posted by whoever is leasing it.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Yep we, American taxpayers should not need to pay more out every year for money that is used on pet projects. A business that used that same philosophy would be tits up already.

Start with bills in congress. They should live or die of their own merit, and riders should not be allowed. Bill riders are a way to pass federal dollars to people you want to earn browny points with and the rider is so bad it will not pass of its own worth.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I believe that is what prez Trump is trying to fix with cutting these pet project agencies that are part of special interest groups.