Well this is going to get interesting

[dean nelson]

Well other then the Corp stuff. The Corp is asking them to voluntarily not put anything in within 20 miles of the lAkers. But the Corp has not acted in good faith so if I'm DAPL I tell them to suck a dick and run it right to the edge of their groundl

 

[Rowdie]

So how long can the CORP deny access to the pipeline co.? At some point they will have to sue the Fed gov't and how long can they tie that up in the courts?

 

[Bed Wetter]

If the Feds don't bring in manpower to shut down unlawful "protests", why would they bring in manpower to prevent lawful pipe laying? Just put in the pipe.Oh crap, the Feds would forcibly shut down the pipe laying, wouldn't they. It's okay people, we just need more of the right kind of government. Having more Rs than Ds will fix this I'm sure.

 

[Wild and Free]

So how long can the CORP deny access to the pipeline co.? At some point they will have to sue the Fed gov't and how long can they tie that up in the courts?

From the coal mine side of things the federal gov has approved few to no federal coal leases since Obama has been in office which is why Wyoming is in the hurt bag so hard as that is almost all federal coal. Here in ND we have mostly privately owned minerals with a sprinkling of federal tracks which is to the point of messing with all the coal mine plans here in ND as well, it will not stop any mining but planning and expense to mine around tracks adds to the cost of coal and the price we pay locally for power in the end to put it in my own simpleton terms.

 

[Migrator Man]

Why can the protesters break the law and occupy land without a permit but Dakota Access can't install a legally approved pipeline after an frivolous order by the White House? I think it is about time a company takes a stand against an out of control government and install the dam pipeline.

 

[dean nelson]

So how long can the CORP deny access to the pipeline co.? At some point they will have to sue the Fed gov't and how long can they tie that up in the courts?

Well you Realy want to break your brain you have to look at the case that was ruled on yesterday and who was the plaintiff and who were the defendants. The fucked up thing is it was standing rock vs DAPL and the Corp of Engineers. So the court rules in there favor but they turn around and say for the second time they need to review how they approved the permit. It's that language and action that has led me to believe this is just a stall tactic to get it past the election cycle so the left doesn't have a big blow to their "green" stance! If you read into what they're saying it doesn't even sound like they're even thinking about not approving it they're just figuring out why they approved it in the first place which is just a bullshit way of stalling. So they will probably sit on it till Christmas and then without fanfare they will approve it when no one is watching and the vast majority of protesters have left due to cold and hopefully the fact that no pipline work will be going on because they finished up with all the line save for the Crossing months before. All of that is just a guess but it seems logical with the lefts line of thinking and they're MO.

 

[tikkalover]

Hopefully it doesn't take as long as the NAWS pipeline has. All the pipe has been in the ground since 2009, except the last mile south of Minot (mind you the very beginning of this project started in 1991). And so far not a drop of water pumped into it. The last I heard Manitoba's lawsuit, and a judge, have required a water treatment plant be built by the pumping plant, to treat the water before it even enters the pipeline. At an additional cost of $200 million if I remember right.

 

[Fracman]

There was protesters south of Tioga today. Williams county sheriff made them leave end of story.

 

[wildeyes]

The federal government painted a gray line for the law, since when is the law a grey line--------o what since Obama showed up.

 

[Retired Educator]

How many here are old enough to remember when there was a plan to provide irrigation water to much of central ND? That's easy, we'll build a canal to provide water from the Missouri River. Take a drive along the canal and see if you can find a pipe taking water from the canal to an irrigated field. There might be some, but I've never seen one. The one good thing about the canal is it's still providing jobs. There are people working on or for the canal. Not sure what they do but the government pretty much stopped the original intended use of the canal quite awhile ago. Just another example of the government bureaucracy getting in the way of progress.

 

[LBrandt]

They stopped the canal when they found out water doesn't run up hill.

 

[eyexer]

why the hell would the corp want them to stop 20 miles either side. screw that shit, put it in right up to the edge.

 

[Nanky]

why the hell would the corp want them to stop 20 miles either side. screw that shit, put it in right up to the edge.

The only thing I can think of is in case the CORP wants them to re-route the pipeline. That's just a complete guess on my part.

 

[deleted member]

that's not why the canal was stopped. i don't believe they have to turn on a single pump to fill that canal all the way to new rockford.

 

[dean nelson]

The canal was not stopped because of hills it was stopped for the same reason NAWS was and a very sound reason and that is they don't want to mix water from two different watersheds. Imagine if the canal was built in reverse and brought red river water to the Mo. Bad news in that case with zebra mussels now running wild in the red. The separation of river drainages are the best protection we have against all the various ANS at this point so I certainly don't fault them or MB at this point since it sure seems like they had a valid point. The canal didn't get used for irrigation till about three years ago and I believe they want to expand on it.

 

[eyexer]

What do you think would happen if five thousand of us showed up down there to protest the protestors.

 

[LBrandt]

Wounded Elbow.

 

[Bed Wetter]

Shailene Woodley can protest my pipeline any time she wants.

(Couldn't help myself. A friend said this, made me LOL.)

 

[huffranger]

Wounded Elbow.

Coffee hit keyboard....... thanks for the LOL

 

[Migrator Man]

Dakota Access has declined the order to halt construction and plans to resume construction on the private land. ABOUT TIME someone takes a stand!

I guess the news is saying some extremist group shut down 5 different company pipeline throughout the Midwest including the keystone pipeline in wahalla. These bastards need every charge thrown at them and sued civilly for damages to set a precedent. The group itself also needs to be held responsible. This ludicrously needs to stop!