Can you hunt state school land if it is posted?

[Migrator Man]

If there is no cows present can someone legally post state school land?

 

[guywhofishes]

If there is no cows present can someone legally post state school land?

wouldn't think so

but are you super duper sure it's all school land? Sometimes there are odd chunks of private jutting out into school land - don't ask me how I know this

 

[johnr]

wouldn't think so

but are you super duper sure it's all school land? Sometimes there are odd chunks of private jutting out into school land - don't ask me how I know this

Is it your skater incrowd? They always seem to be a bit smarter than us regular non-skater dipshits.

 

[Ericb]

I learned on plots they can still graze cattle on it during hunting season but you can still hunt with the cattle preasent.

I would check with the game warden just to makes sure the land is truly state land.

 

[pluckem]

If there is no cows present can someone legally post state school land?

Yes and no. For 99% of instances they can not. A call into the ND Trust Lands Surface Management Office will give you the info you need.

https://land.nd.gov/surface/Contact.aspx

Public Access Information

Public Use Facts

School Trust Lands are generally open to non-vehicular public access, unless posted with signs furnished free of charge by the Department of Trust Lands. Following are some facts about access on school trust lands.

• School trust lands are dedicated to producing income for the schools and designated trust funds of North Dakota.
• Over 700,000 acres are managed by the Department of Trust Lands.
• The current public access policy has been in effect since 1983. Public access is allowed provided it does not conflict with the constitutional mandate to produce income for the trusts.
• Three signs are available from the Department of Trust Lands for posting, 1) Closed to Public Access, 2) Notify the Lessee Before Entering, and 3) Walking Access. Lands may be posted with these signs for management reasons.
• More than 99% of all school trust lands are open for public access. Less than 1% of school trust lands are closed.
• 99% of school trust lands are leased to farmers and ranchers.
• You can use your GPS to locate school trust lands using these arial photographs with latitude and longitude of the section corners printed on the maps.
• School trust lands are identified on 1/4 Scale County Atlas Set or Individual County selections, on the North Dakota Plots Guide , plat books and on maps available from various commercial sources.
• The State does not guarantee that school trust lands are legally accessible. In some cases, terrain and other natural obstructions may make access difficult.
• For a quick reference on your cell phone, please bookmark the mobile friendly public access and hunting app at land.nd.gov/hunt.

For the protection of the land and the natural resources that we all enjoy, access to school trust lands is strictly non-vehicular. You must park your vehicle and walk. Trails are used only for management purposes and may not be used by the public for vehicular travel.



If it truly is intentionally posted it should be reported. If done illegally, it should be documented and hopefully will keep the current lease holder from bidding on the lease in the future.

 

[GSM]

From G&F website
"Managed by the State Land Department, North Dakota has more than 700,000 acres of state school land. Much of this land is leased for agricultural purposes, primarily cattle grazing. School land is
generally open to hunting. However, operators leasing the land may close access if livestock is present."

I have dug into this once before, but cannot remember where I got the info whether it was G&F or forest service or who. What I remember is that yes, it can be posted. It was a very small amount that was throughout the state and it had to be registered through the state as to what pieces of ground were posted. I did see the list once, but again cannot remember where.

 

[pluckem]

Also, it is possible for lease holder to own the surrounding land. If he puts up a posted sign on the fence post right at the property line he might just be covering just that the section or property transfer point. If it isn't obvious the land changes ownership he intentionally or unintentionally makes it seem like he is posting the state land. I have seen this on more that one instance. Especially in cattle country where there is just a single fence that splits the properties.

 

[Duckslayer100]

I've seen posted State School Land before in 2F1. My understanding is that, as long as cattle isn't present, you can hunt it with permission. The posted signs had names and phone numbers and the guy just asked who I was and what I was hunting. Then said go ahead and close the gate when you're done.

 

[Migrator Man]

I saw the land on the game and fish plots viewer. I can understand why the rancher posted it as it is some prime deer land. I guess I will try it out and see what happens now hunting.

 

[sweeney]

I remember hearing if it is posted closed to public access then not even the person leasing the land can hunt it. Sometimes the stuff is tricky to even access in a lot of areas, so guys just post it closed to public.

 

[fly2cast]

School land can be posted but the land owner has to apply to close it and it must have specific language on the sign indicating that the landowner has permission to post the land. Simply having a "no hunting" sign doesn't qualify. You can hunt if it has cattle on it unless it has been given proper permission to post it.

 

[Fisherman25]

That is correct. I rent state school land and if I were to post it, I could not hunt it myself. Might just be that they took the cows out recently and haven't removed the signs. Or possibly they're pulling a shananigan.

 

[Ponyroper]

School land can be posted but the land owner has to apply to close it and it must have specific language on the sign indicating that the landowner has permission to post the land. Simply having a "no hunting" sign doesn't qualify. You can hunt if it has cattle on it unless it has been given proper permission to post it.

This is correct. Also, the lessee must remove the signs when the cattle are taken out and can not post the land until he/she puts livestock in. The signs must have a beginning and ending date and be printed by the Trust Lands Dept.

I work for the Trust Lands Dept. and the only motorized vehicle travel allowed is for the lessee to care for his/her livestock and Trust Land employee's for official business. Technically you can't even drive across Trust Land to access other private land and this applies to established trails too. I once asked my boss if you could ride a horse on Trust Land to hunt or retrieve shot game and he said yup, it wasn't motorized.

 

[fnznfwl]

https://land.nd.gov/Docs/Surface/postingpacket.pdf

 

[eyexer]

there is something about posting these lands and a two weeks time period. I heard this a few weeks back and then all of a sudden just prior to the deer opener one of those signs showed up on a gate on some state land I have a well on. It had a start and stop date on the sign that was a two week period

 

[Obi-Wan]

My understanding there is two ways they can post one is it is posted for everyone including the renter, the other is you have to notify the land owner and it doesn't matter if there is cattle in there or not as long as he is notified. It has to be a state sign like this one

 

[svnmag]

Is leaving a detailed message sufficient for notification?

 

[shorthairsrus]

walk in now - talk later :;:cheers

 

[fnznfwl]

Is leaving a detailed message sufficient for notification?

yes.

Notification of the lessee can be as

simple as a postcard, a message on an answering machine, or a
note in the door.