Las Vegas Jason Aldean concert crazy with a machine gun

[Davy Crockett]

Originally Posted by Brian Renville How do we stop psychos from getting that way?



The hardest question of all and I don't think there is an answer but IMHO if news stations wouldn't dwell on situations like this 24/7 it would be a start but its already too late for that. I realize most normal people and especially those who had loved ones involved want to know why and how these tragedies unfolded but I bet we would get the willies if we knew how many psychos with sick minds are glued to the news and social media absorbing this in all the wrong ways and thinking to themselves, " I could do that" and/or "I want to do that".

 

[gst]

liberal martyr perhaps

There are now photos floating around supposedly of this lunatic at an anti Trump rally.

Amid cries for "limitations" on the 2nd amendment on Joel H FB page I asked the question if it turns out to be true this is a Trump hater, will those calling for limitations on the 2nd also call for limitations on the 1st to punish those such as Kathy Griffin and others that are instigating actions like this?

Funny, no one replied.

 

[Brian Renville]

Originally Posted by Brian Renville How do we stop psychos from getting that way?



The hardest question of all and I don't think there is an answer but IMHO if news stations wouldn't dwell on situations like this 24/7 it would be a start but its already too late for that. I realize most normal people and especially those who had loved ones involved want to know why and how these tragedies unfolded but I bet we would get the willies if we knew how many psychos with sick minds are glued to the news and social media absorbing this in all the wrong ways and thinking to themselves, " I could do that" and/or "I want to do that".

Tend to to agree with you there. It's the same way ISIS recruits. They use publicity to get "loners" of sorts to think they will be appreciated if the join up or act in some way. That's kind of a nice way to put it but it's their method nonetheless. Add those conditions to a an epidemic of desensitization towards human beings and it could tip unstable beings off their rocker.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Rump hater vs isis. This guy was shoveling a lot of money around. Where the hell did he get it all. Video poker I doubt it. Plus 40k on a slot. Pro gambling do not play slots isis Philippine connection I say the plot will thicken

 

[dean nelson]

The thing that seems to be missed here is this guy did everything just right for the perfect massacre and then went and used a goddamn BB gun. He's popping those rounds out to damn near the max killing range for that gun so odds of a bullet doing a pass through and taking out one or more people behind the first is greatly reduced. Plus those little baby bullets have jack shit for knockdown power in the first place and he was probably using FMJ rounds. It's almost like he went out of his way to make this a wounding situation and it definitely worked out that way with the math at a 1 to 10 killed to wound ratio. If he knew anything about guns he would have been using some 30 caliber semi auto instead of a 223. Had he done that or God forbid gotten his hands on some 50 cal like a Ma Duce it could have been so much worse. In the end the national media and their incessant harping on the AR-15 has most likely duped so many idiots into thinking that they're using a big powerful rifle and don't know they're in reality shooting a peashooter.

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There are now photos floating around supposedly of this lunatic at an anti Trump rally.

Amid cries for "limitations" on the 2nd amendment on Joel H FB page I asked the question if it turns out to be true this is a Trump hater, will those calling for limitations on the 2nd also call for limitations on the 1st to punish those such as Kathy Griffin and others that are instigating actions like this?

Funny, no one replied.

Probably because that's a stupid point!

 

[Zogman]

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Probably because that's a stupid point!

NOT!!!

 

[ndlongshot]

I "heard" there was a mix of AR 15's and 10's in the room.....so not just 223 but some 308 as well. Hard to know what to believe though...

 

[shorthairsrus]

according to the people in the concert - the 308 blast was last.

 

[gst]

Probably because that's a stupid point!

Why pray tell the Magnificent Karnac is that a stupid point? To my limited way of thinking that is clearly not as superior as yours, it would seem that both the 1st and 2nd amendments are guaranteed under our Constitution correct? If the argument is that one can be limited becasue of the outcome of someones actions using it for evil, why can not the other?

What was it that drove this lunatic over the edge making him choose to break laws we already have, the innate metal object he purchased or the vitriolic hate spewed at anti Trump rallies?

Please oh great one share your wisdom.

 

[dean nelson]

Because not all amendments are created equal thus the reason why some come and go over time. The Second Amendment already has numerous conditions attached to it that technically sould be against it but I'm pretty much okay with not being able to go to the 7-Eleven and buying a nuke. So to try and pit one vs the other is a piss poor argument that will come off as a crackpot!

 

[gst]

Because not all amendments are created equal thus the reason why some come and go over time. The Second Amendment already has numerous conditions attached to it that technically would be against it but I'm pretty much okay with not being able to go to the 7-Eleven and buying a nuke.

Actually dean the Constitution ensures all amendments are "created equal". The reason why some "come and go" over time is that the citizens of this nation wish them to. ANY amendment has the same ability to "come and go" in the same manner any other does. Once again the Constitution ensures that.

You can say the word fire in a crowed movie theater if you are simply talking a bout a campfire or even the neighbors house fire. It is illegal to shout "fire" in a movie theater if the intent is to cause a panic which can injure people.

So how then is the correlation between limiting fire arms because they hurt people and different than identifying other speech that may hurt people and limiting that?

The first amendment as well has "conditions" attached to it. If I am standing in front of a crowd of people with a bull horn claiming know it alls must be killed and the crowd bashes some know it alls head in, I can be sent to jail for complicity in the death of that know it all if it is proven my actions and speech contributed to the death of the know it all.

So if we are going to expand our laws to keep people safe from fire arms, why should we then not expand our laws to keep people safe from hate speech?

 

[fnznfwl]

There are now photos floating around supposedly of this lunatic at an anti Trump rally.

Amid cries for "limitations" on the 2nd amendment on Joel H FB page I asked the question if it turns out to be true this is a Trump hater, will those calling for limitations on the 2nd also call for limitations on the 1st to punish those such as Kathy Griffin and others that are instigating actions like this?

Funny, no one replied.

You should keep the spreading of bullshit to your ranching operation.

http://www.snopes.com/las-vegas-shooter-trump-protest/

 

[Captain Ahab]

I'll agree there are a lot of loose ends to tie up. It seems more and more ISIS like as it goes on.

 

[guywhofishes]

they know how/what/why it went down

they are trying to figure out how to spin it cuz the shit is gonna hit the fan methinks

 

[Wild and Free]

I knew it would come out and here it is, another mass murder committed by an SSRI drug prescription.
Mass murders that have happened in the last couple decades by people on an SSRI drug equates to almost all of them and amount of mass murders committed by NRA members is 0.
Why the hell is the pharmaceutical industry not being held accountable for this bullshit?

Lots to read here but the proof is there that shows the issue lies with big pharma not the guns.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local...shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/

https://ssristories.org/

And then to top it all off they try to spin schools as drug free zones now days but the kids are popping ritalin and other SSRI drugs like M&M's now days.

 

[LBrandt]

Too much fine tuning to be a one man operation. Too much military planning and expertize to be carried out by a retired accountant for my line of thinking.

 

[DirtyMike]

The continual speculation is what is wrong in the aftermath of the situation. Why can't people sit back and wait for the results from the experts. Take it for what its worth right now, a crazy bastard with too much money and time, has committed a heinous crime. But like the coward he was, he wouldn't face his punishment.


Be patient.

 

[Captain Ahab]

The continual speculation is what is wrong in the aftermath of the situation. Why can't people sit back and wait for the results from the experts. Take it for what its worth right now, a crazy bastard with too much money and time, has committed a heinous crime. But like the coward he was, he wouldn't face his punishment.


Be patient.

Maybe we should be like Wags and delete our account and quit watching the news? Haven't seen him for a while. Wonder if he's grown a full beard and built a lean to in the woods yet?

 

[guywhofishes]

Maybe we should be like Wags and delete our account and quit watching the news? Haven't seen him for a while. Wonder if he's grown a full beard and built a lean to in the woods yet?

From what I understand he got sprung last week after serving his time for beating that sconi poacher. And that is exactly what he’s doing - building a lean to in the woods. And he rocks a mustache now (he’s more popular than ever with the ladies cuz now he’s a bad boy).

 

[gst]

You should keep the spreading of bullshit to your ranching operation.

http://www.snopes.com/las-vegas-shooter-trump-protest/

Ah yes Snopes, did you actually read our link? The irony of how INconclusive their debunking of what they claim is inconclusive is amusing.

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There are now photos floating around supposedly of this lunatic at an anti Trump rally.

Amid cries for "limitations" on the 2nd amendment on Joel H FB page I asked the question if it turns out to be true this is a Trump hater, will those calling for limitations on the 2nd also call for limitations on the 1st to punish those such as Kathy Griffin and others that are instigating actions like this?

Funny, no one replied.

fuzzy your personal hatred apparently has clouded your ability to read simple English, note the emboldened words. If you need further explanation I would be glad to share how that was not "spreading of bullshit" as fact or accurate but merely a question.

The question asked on Joels page was simply rhetorical in nature to those that seek to limit the 2nd even more than it is. Perhaps that kind of thinking is a bit above your ability and you are better off sticking with Snopes to tell you how to think.