Right hand shooter left eye dominate

[Dirty]

I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat.

Can I get a "Y" please?

 

[Mr. Stevenson]

I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat.

Can I get a "Y" please?

Did you see my post in response to your first? I guess I'll post quote from now on. I like to get to the point and don't like to muck through repetitive bs to obtain it.

 

[Dirty]

Dirty,

I'm glad you did right for your kids.

You really don't have to close your right eye. Just squint slightly. It's akin to a piece of tape on shooting glasses. Through a rifle scope it truly doesn't make a damn as the prominence of the sight picture overrides dominance.

Does anyone else naturally shut their non-dominant eye when suddenly exposed to harsh sunlight?

Yup. I saw this.

Personally, I do have to close that dominant eye all the way. If I don’t it really messes with me. Shooting a bow through a peep sight is where it helps my shot the most to have it fully closed because if I don't I have all sorts of double vision happening when trying to line up the shot. Unfortunately, that is also where I hate the most that I lose that peripheral vision especially when there are other deer around I’d like to keep my other eye on when I’m at full draw.

I have read that there are different levels of cross dominance and that a small number of people even have co-dominant eyes, where neither is more dominant than the other. Maybe the level of "one eye over the other" determines if one can or cannot leave the dominant eye open somewhat when they are shooting? As unique as each individual's level of sight, hearing, intelligence, memory, coordination, steadiness, strength, etc. is and how those unique levels affect everything we do - I would have to assume the level of this cross dominant hand/eye thing varies greatly among individuals as well and how much we have to compensate for it is equally as diverse.

I don’t know, but like I said I’m glad someone clued me in before I led my child down the wrong path.

 

[snow]

In the shotgun world shooting with both eyes open is a must as you point a shotgun not aim,few accomplished shooters close one eye,for folks cross eyed dominate gunfit specialist lay a piece of tape over dominate eye shooting glasses for cross eyed dominate folks this way shooter shoots with both eyes open and doesn't mess with depth perception.

agreed about the pic above,someone spent some time stock bending....

 

[Dirty]

I know how it is taught with a shotgun to shoot with both eyes open. I can tell you, when I shoulder my gun properly and close my dominant eye, I don’t miss. If I don’t do BOTH of those things, I miss. My sight picture with both eyes open - even when pointing and not aiming - is a mess and it is not correct.

You are not wrong, snow. You are actually completely right. The “both eyes open” technique is absolutely the correct way to shoot a shotgun and the correct way to teach someone to shoot a shotgun but it should be taught in conjunction with eye dominance so your dominant eye is on the barrel or you may be opening them up to a world of problems. I’m sure those problems can be overcome eventually with eye patches and whatnot but it probably isn’t easy for some folks. When that’s not the case - as in my case -you have to figure out what works. For me, it is an absolute must to close my right eye. I could cuss my dad out for not teaching me correctly but he didn’t know any better.

The good shooting instructors I’ve met won’t even let a kid pick up a shotgun until eye dominance has been determined. Once that is figured out, you WILL be learning to shoot with that hand as well so they can actually teach you correctly to point with both eyes open instead of aiming with one eye shut like me.

How many of you guys know someone who absolutely can’t hit the broadside of a barn with a shotgun? I do. Almost without fail I have found out those guys are shooting with their non-dominant eye and have developed every other bad habit known to man because of it as they struggle to figure out how to shoot. That includes not swinging through the shot and aiming instead of pointing, which I agree is not correct. I also know guys who are shitty shots for other reasons that I’ve nothing to do with eye dominance.

Just to be clear, I’m not arguing your point, snow. I’m actually reinforcing it. The way I shoot now is just a bad habit I picked up as I figured out how to compensate for being taught to shoot ever since I was a kid with my non-dominant eye. It just so happens I have perfected that bad habit after many, many shots and I can’t argue with imperfect perfection at this stage of the game.

 

[Kurtr]

its not a bad thing to practice shooting the rifle with your off hand. Some days i actually shoot better left handed as i make sure i am driving the rifle with and concentrate all the way through the follow through.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

I’m right handed. I bat and golf right. Left handed hockey player. Left footed kicker, but can kick right pretty decent. I’m left eye dominant and shoot right handed. I’m also a pretty decent left handed shooter too. I have no problem killing things, so I’m not going to complain about not being set up properly as a kid.

 

[Kurtr]

I’m right handed. I bat and golf right. Left handed hockey player. Left footed kicker, but can kick right pretty decent. I’m left eye dominant and shoot right handed. I’m also a pretty decent left handed shooter too. I have no problem killing things, so I’m not going to complain about not being set up properly as a kid.

If you looking for a little extra cash might be able to apply here for a kicking position.

https://www.vikings.com/

 

[lunkerslayer]

its not a bad thing to practice shooting the rifle with your off hand. Some days i actually shoot better left handed as i make sure i am driving the rifle with and concentrate all the way through the follow through.

Could you draw a picture of that follow through so I could get a better idea of what you are talking about #$%^&>

 

[Kurtr]

Could you draw a picture of that follow through so I could get a better idea of what you are talking about #$%^&>

you hold the trigger back through the shot and watch the impact of the bullet through the scope

 

[snow]

I know how it is taught with a shotgun to shoot with both eyes open. I can tell you, when I shoulder my gun properly and close my dominant eye, I don’t miss. If I don’t do BOTH of those things, I miss. My sight picture with both eyes open - even when pointing and not aiming - is a mess and it is not correct.

You are not wrong, snow. You are actually completely right. The “both eyes open” technique is absolutely the correct way to shoot a shotgun and the correct way to teach someone to shoot a shotgun but it HAS to be taught in conjunction with eye dominance so your dominant eye is on the barrel or you are just opening them up to a world of problems. I’m sure those problems can be overcome eventually with eye patches and whatnot but it isn’t easy. When that’s not the case - as in my case -you have to figure out what works. For me, it is an absolute must to close my right eye. I could cuss my dad out for not teaching me correctly but he didn’t know any better.

The good shooting instructors I’ve met won’t even let a kid pick up a shotgun until eye dominance has been determined. Once that is figured out, you WILL be learning to shoot with that hand as well so they can actually teach you correctly to point with both eyes open instead of aiming with one eye shut like me.

How many of you guys know someone who absolutely can’t hit the broadside of a barn with a shotgun? I do. Almost without fail I have found out those guys are shooting with their non-dominant eye and have developed every other bad habit known to man because of it as they struggle to figure out how to shoot. That includes not swinging through the shot and aiming instead of pointing, which I agree is not correct.

Just to be clear, I’m not arguing your point, snow. I’m actually reinforcing it. The way I shoot now is just a bad habit I picked up as I figured out how to compensate for being taught to shoot ever since I was a kid with my non-dominant eye. It just so happens I have perfected that bad habit after many, many shots and I can’t argue with imperfect perfection at this stage of the game.

Good points dirty,you would be a hard re-learner scatter gunner and might be the exception of a one-eyed shotgunner,however you might try to put a piece of tape on your shooting glasses dominate eye one day when you have a couple boxes of ammo to burn at the range,alot of folks get screwed up (cross eyed dominate) when they shoulder the shotgun and "bead check" doing so messes up your depth perception locking in of target,that spilt second going from bead to target most often results in a loss. just a thought,One of the best one eyed shooter's in the country (all american) I watched shoot one year is Nora Martan,infact she specializes in helping cross eyed dominate shooters across the country,or she did,not sure if she is still active in the shooting world these days.

folks trying to shotgun with both eyes open in the begining are usually rifle shooters so they are comforable aiming,with both eyes open they focus on the bead first,usually see two beads or two barrels then try to focus on the target,this is a tough habit to break but with practice can be done.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I think the idea of shooting with one eye closed goes back to the basic training of the military where everyone was given a right handed gun regardless if you were left handed. Most people when I was young shot with iron sights and left handed guns was a uncommon unless you had a rifle custom made. Unless you were lucky like me to own a gun where you could shoot the gun with either hand the lever action model 94 30-30 which is what my great grandfather hunted with.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

If you looking for a little extra cash might be able to apply here for a kicking position.

https://www.vikings.com/

they couldn’t afford me.

 

[Kurtr]

they couldn’t afford me.

 

[TFX 186]

Out of curiosity, on what side are your reel handles?

IMO; the rod should be controlled with the dominant hand; leaving the off to deal with a simple-assed circular exercise. I've had GREAT FAILURE converting folks to my way of thinking even after seeing missed strikes when the apparatus was unnecessarily being switched hands. It's like retards buying vowels on "Wheel Of Fortune".

Mr. Steve
My reel handles are on the right side. I am assuming this is left handed fishing as my wife is completely left handed and this is how she fishes. I've had people comment on me fishing backwards but this is normal for me. Like shooting anything with the left.

Fish On!

 

[Mr. Stevenson]

TFX,

Your wife is correct.

If "my" concept is ever fully accepted; the glut of right side-crank reels will drop the ass out of the price; negating any benefit of defeating lack of common sense.

On a positive note to the current paradigm (for reel makers); I've been seeing a trend of spinning reels sported with right side cranks. Intriguing how many years this took to take hold: From '79 to present folks were needlessly ambidextrous from spinning to casting. Blows my mind. One screw.

Dirty,

Don't sell yourself short for ego. You're perfectly capable of squinting an eye or putting a piece of tape on a lens. Also, dominance can change. Check out Snow's Perazzi "Tru-Oil" gun...he knows of what he speaks. I'm not saying you're wrong just hoping you're open for improvement. Your current photo portfolio is proof of success.

 

[BrokenBackJack]

don't you close your off hand eye when looking through a scope? if so, eye dominance shouldn't matter should it?

Say what?
Was always taught to keep both eyes open when looking thru a scope.