it's really quite shocking that this thread is headed down a rabbit hole
You have my word, i'm done now. Not going to change anyones mind from here on out. Said my .02.it's really quite shocking that this thread is headed down a rabbit hole
I don't think exposing the background and makeup of these types of organizations is going down a rabbit hole. However skunks have been known to hide in rabbit holes. So maybe we should go down there. JMHO.
So groups like DU should be able to buy whatever they want then I take it.#$%^&>
So if you have two counties that are the same size but one only has 1/3 as many people and 1/3 as many roads that County still needs the same amount of taxes to maintain its infrastructure?
Stop diverting!
No one is blocking the deal. They can close the deal. The new owner just can't open a stripper house. UNLESS he changes the zoning laws. Stop acting like there isnt another solution. Thats not a "blocked" sale. Its ill-advised from a potential business man to purchase (LEGALLY) knowing that he can't run a certain type of business UNLESS he switches zoning. Again, something that comes back to elections, reps, and voters. You should know a thing or two about those GST. Your the biggest online lobbiest in the state of ND.
and you need to stop kissing ass.
SDMF organizations like APP can not charge to hunt or they are no longer non profit. .
I should have known better.it's really quite shocking that this thread is headed down a rabbit hole
it's really quite shocking that this thread is headed down a rabbit hole
Yup there is always a couple that will try kill any discussion about conservation. That's their goal.I should have known better.
I should have known better.
Yup there is always a couple that will try kill any discussion about conservation. That's their goal.
Kurtr you don't think there are different rules for different people? There shouldn't be. If you own a restaurant try telling a black guy your not going to serve him because he is black and see where that gets you. Not much different than North Dakota passing laws against conservation organizations not purchasing land without permission. Not different than landowners over there in Montana trying to stop the sales. Different rules for different people.
Yup there is always a couple that will try kill any discussion about conservation. That's their goal.
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Kurtr you don't think there are different rules for different people? There shouldn't be. If you own a restaurant try telling a black guy your not going to serve him because he is black and see where that gets you. Not much different than North Dakota passing laws against conservation organizations not purchasing land without permission. Not different than landowners over there in Montana trying to stop the sales. Different rules for different people.
You really cant be that dumb to compare that to being a racist it is no where near that.
and you need to stop kissing ass.
SDMF organizations like APP can not charge to hunt or they are no longer non profit. I doubt they will change their policy of open to hunting real fast. I fear they may some day. However, if your not local or whip out your wallet (now, but more so in the future) you not getting on private.
Montana has some foolish laws like no corner hopping. They should have section line laws like we do so people could keep prairie trails open to that public land.There is VERY LITTLE PRIVATE LAND where they're buying/leasing. They're buying/leasing private land that contains access points to enormous tracts of public land and anyone who can read a fuggin' map can very easily see how much public land they could easily turn into an inaccessible island.
Look here:
http://fwp.mt.gov/gis/maps/huntPlanner/?bma=true®ion=6
So if you were out there and you didn't want to farm or ranch and a local farmer offers you $100 and acre and a conservation offers you $200 who would you sell to? Should your local farmer be able to stop you from selling to the conservation group. Young farmers or people with kids who want to expand hate these conservation groups. People who want to sell not so much hate.The ranches that are sold are way over priced by the new generation that doesn't want to live in the boonies nor farm or ranch.
Should your local farmer be able to stop you from selling to the conservation group. e.
Montana has some foolish laws like no corner hopping. They should have section line laws like we do so people could keep prairie trails open to that public land.
So if you were out there and you didn't want to farm or ranch and a local farmer offers you $100 and acre and a conservation offers you $200 who would you sell to? Should your local farmer be able to stop you from selling to the conservation group. Young farmers or people with kids who want to expand hate these conservation groups. People who want to sell not so much hate.[/QUOTE
Nope they should sell for whatever they can get. I had a very good friend sell his ranch to them, we had many long discussions about why he sold to them. He had his place for sale, did he ever think anyone would pay that price, nope, here came APP and paid him, now there was some other factors, his health, a close family death and no one to leave it to that would take care of it. He had a heart attack and died 3 years ago on his farm land. But he did run a large cattle operation and he always said how bad he felt for his neighbors if APP brought in Buffalo. The APP is a wolf in sheep clothing as a conservation group, there plan is to buy up the whole county, all the way to the Canadian border, have you looked at how big Phillips co is? Take all the fences down, scrub all the farm land and run Buffalo. That would mean the loss of food, beef and grains, I think there’s like 100k cows in this county. So the foods gotta come from somewhere. Guess we can use up the rest of what’s left in crp.
Yup there is always a couple that will try kill any discussion about conservation. That's their goal.
Kurtr you don't think there are different rules for different people? There shouldn't be. If you own a restaurant try telling a black guy your not going to serve him because he is black and see where that gets you. Not much different than North Dakota passing laws against conservation organizations not purchasing land without permission. Not different than landowners over there in Montana trying to stop the sales. Different rules for different people.
Ezzie I am sorry about your friend.
I know three farmers in this county that raise bison. I would think if they raise bison they would sell them for slaughter.
Susan has been a board member of American Prairie Reserve along with her husband Gib since 2002. The opportunity to assemble a huge prairie ecosystem full of wildlife in the 21st century is very compelling and exciting to her. Every time she visits the prairie she enjoys being on the landscape and going to find the bison herd. She and Gib would love to see a herd of 10,000 bison in their lifetime.
Susan has an interest in food sustainability and has been a member of a food investor group through the Philanthropy Workshop in San Francisco.
Gib is a co-founder of the Center for Social Innovation at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.
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Also, Vollmer, can we get a "conservation" topic forum option?