Electronic Posting

[zoops]

Have seen a couple blurbs that the trial run of the electronic database for posting land is going to run this year in Ramsey, Richland and Slope counties. What are the details? I've never hunted in those counties but just curious how this will work. I probably could dig through some old threads but looks like most of those are way off topic.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

I will continue to have old school signs out in Richland. If some people are too lazy to read a sign at a corner or gate, or they can't comprehend the English language what makes are the odds they will look it up online

 

[eyexer]

If your hunting those counties and don’t see signs hunt it. Piss on em

 

[johnr]

Signs are for out of staters

 

[NDSportsman]

This trial run doesn't make any sense because until the law is actually changed the land is open unless signs are posted. So even if they post it online they still have to put up signs to make it legal. This is just a waste of time and resources and we will be back to the same fight in next legislative session. Not sure what exactly they are trying to gather from this trial run but it wasn't thought out very well.

 

[Sluggo]

NDSportsman is correct. Law says paper posting so the electronic thing is really just a parallel run. I listened to the GNF at the advisory board meeting and basically they are trying to simulate paper posting with electronic posting which is all well and good but then they are limiting it's usefulness by converting all the info to paper. Example: landowner uses the app to post electronically but hunter can get a book similar to the PLOTS map book which displays the posted land (or he can use the app). They are losing many of the advantages of electronic by converting to paper. Example: All posting online has to be done 2 months before the season so there is time to print the book and then of course the landowner can't change their mind after the deadline.

I should add that I think GNF is in a tough spot here. They are being told to do something silly and they can't say no so they have to come up with something.

 

[guywhofishes]

this was designed at the outset as a trojan horse to advance the case of the advocates for change

it has just not revealed itself yet

 

[Shockwave]

"They are losing many of the advantages of electronic by converting to paper. Example: All posting online has to be done 2 months before the season so there is time to print the book and then of course the landowner can't change their mind after the deadline."

This is funny. I was watching a nice buck on un-posted land last year. The landowner drove by and noticed the same buck. Since it was the landowner, I left the area. I came back a few hours later and the land was posted.

 

[zoops]

My thoughts are the e-version is going to have way too many kinks so it is just a way to get the auto-posting law change.

 

[fireone]

My thoughts are the e-version is going to have way too many kinks so it is just a way to get the auto-posting law change.

That's right. This "trial version" is just an end run around opposition to state-wide No Trespass. Erble promised he wouldn't bring this bill forward in 2021 but you can bet your lunch someone else will. The June primary is what, a month away? Time then and in November also to send a message.

 

[USMCDI]

I still remember the weasels that voted for it.

 

[Davy Crockett]

This trial run doesn't make any sense because until the law is actually changed the land is open unless signs are posted. So even if they post it online they still have to put up signs to make it legal. This is just a waste of time and resources and we will be back to the same fight in next legislative session. Not sure what exactly they are trying to gather from this trial run but it wasn't thought out very well.

It's a useful tool for landowners that don't want so many deer on their property . Raise the green flag for all to see and they will show up and shoot some of these deer.

 

[Traxion]

What platform are they going to use for this? ArcGIS maybe integrated into their own site? I have questions on how landowners will be "trained" to enter their land. Introducing them to this technology will be a challenge. Will the posting be an all season deal? Or can they turn it on/off? That opens up a can of worms if it wasn't posted yesterday, then is today, and I don't look at the app. But there are some positives too....let the family hunt the deer opener, then open it up when they are done versus having it posted all year long. If would free up some access maybe in some cases. But a person can paper post anytime like the above post states.

I would agree it is a ploy to change the access laws in time. I interestingly read these discussions as in SD we are no tresspass no matter what. It's a totally different mindset in ND. When I've hunted up there on non-posted land I was always looking over my shoulder LOL!

 

[zoops]

It's a useful tool for landowners that don't want so many deer on their property . Raise the green flag for all to see and they will show up and shoot some of these deer.

Pretty rare to see unposted land with too many deer on it. I can't imagine guys who have posted their land and thus have too many deer are going to openly advertise that they want people to come hunt their land. Seems most areas I've ever seen with 'too many deer' are either near feedlots/farmsteads or on really nice habitat and I cannot fault landowners for not wanting it to be a free for all. Hope I didn't miss sarcasm in your response

 

[Retired Educator]

For me there is no easy answer to whatever the posting is going to change to. Like most everything that keeps coming up this will end in a change of some kind. One of the issues it's going to be is contacting landowners that will allow hunting. Pretty sure we all have cell phones and how often to you answer a call when you don't know the caller. For me I rarely answer when I don't know the caller. Pretty tired of calls from people trying to sell extended warranties or better credit card deals.

Right now there are people who don't post and when busy will prefer to not answer a number they don't recognize. There are no easy answers for the sportsman of ND. The people pushing for everything posted are very vocal and the ones who don't care don't want to upset their neighbor so don't say anything.

 

[NDSportsman]

It's a useful tool for landowners that don't want so many deer on their property . Raise the green flag for all to see and they will show up and shoot some of these deer.

Huh? I don't understand your comment here.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Two guys that I know of are pissed at NDGF and the deer because the deer eat their trees. One was an older guy at a regional NDGF meeting and he was raising holey hell NDGF didn't really have an answer or one that would make him happy or make him shut up be bitched most of the meeting away. NDGF would have an answer for people that call in with deer problems. They catch hell from all sides .

 

[NDSportsman]

Two guys that I know of are pissed at NDGF and the deer because the deer eat their trees. One was an older guy at a regional NDGF meeting and he was raising holey hell NDGF didn't really have an answer or one that would make him happy or make him shut up be bitched most of the meeting away. NDGF would have an answer for people that call in with deer problems. They catch hell from all sides .

Not sure what that has to do with the electronic posting being discussed here. Those people are going to always bitch about something.

 

[zoops]

Two guys that I know of are pissed at NDGF and the deer because the deer eat their trees. One was an older guy at a regional NDGF meeting and he was raising holey hell NDGF didn't really have an answer or one that would make him happy or make him shut up be bitched most of the meeting away. NDGF would have an answer for people that call in with deer problems. They catch hell from all sides .

GNF already has a program to connect landowners with too many deer to hunters with anterless tags. Really have to wonder if it is used much.

 

[Ruttin]

Seems like this thread should be in the political forum :;:stirthepot