Harwood ND AI business

[tikkalover]

Mayor had 3 people removed from the meeting.

One person on the council told everyone "If we do not approve this, we will not receive any revenue from this and some other city will".

Money talks and bullshit walks.

 

[double account removed]

whats real crazy is that fer a bunch a fellers who know abosoltly everything bout everything and r so much smarter than everyone sumhow none of us are gettin rich or any better off at all fer that matter

better keep scrolling x to find sumone else to blame and keep votin in rich power hungry fellas and just stay loyal to the guys who appeal to my inner tuff guy persona

 

[Davy Crockett]

My boys thought it was kinda funny how the Harwood mayor kept it a secret for so long and he was so proud of his accomplishment and all excited, thinking it was such a wonderful accomplishment but the residents didn't think so and the meeting blew up in his face.
Had this been announced a month or two earlier things would have went a lot smoother. Location is two miles from my boys place and he is OK with the location since it's on the other side of the interstate.

 

[Allen]

While I fully understand the NIMBY attitude, it is hard to block someone else from doing what they want with their property so long as they aren't doing anything illegal. From this audience, I am a little surprised with what seems to be a fair amount of support in doing just that.

As far as the argument that if Harwood doesn't do it, Fargo will simply annex the location and do it? Well, that's kind of horseshit of Farhole.

 

[guywhofishes]

Farhole and Cass County will sustain more infrastructure and support issues than Harwood I think.

Not that I care either way, but will Harwood proper actually need a large revenue increase to maintain its needs? Seems most impacts will take place outside the city.

I’m not real hip on how all that cty vs city revenue sharing stuff works - or doesn’t.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Are interstate overpasses federally funded ? based on location, traffic coming and returning the same direction would use the rickety old Harwood overpass. scary thought.

 

[Obi-Wan]

While I fully understand the NIMBY attitude, it is hard to block someone else from doing what they want with their property so long as they aren't doing anything illegal. From this audience, I am a little surprised with what seems to be a fair amount of support in doing just that.

As far as the argument that if Harwood doesn't do it, Fargo will simply annex the location and do it? Well, that's kind of horseshit of Farhole.

When changing zoning of any property they typically have to notify and get approval from adjoining or near by land owners that could adversely be affected or even benefit by the zoning change. what do you think this will do to the value of the nearby land? How would you feel if the county changed the zoning and allowed a junk yard or a large scale hog operation directly across from your rural property where you presently live. Would you still feel that the property owners could do whatever they want with their property ?

 

[double account removed]

landowner rights lib

 

[Allen]

When changing zoning of any property they typically have to notify and get approval from adjoining or near by land owners that could adversely be affected or even benefit by the zoning change. what do you think this will do to the value of the nearby land? How would you feel if the county changed the zoning and allowed a junk yard or a large scale hog operation directly across from your rural property where you presently live. Would you still feel that the property owners could do whatever they want with their property ?

Like I said, I fully understand the NIMBY point of view, because not that long ago there was just such a public outcry in Lincoln that stopped a project from going forward on its north side. That doesn't change the observation though of how members on here tend to be strong advocates for property rights.

I think the biggest problem I'd have with it would be the noise. "Sound at one-half mile would be about like the rustling of leaves" in one of the articles on this kind of made me chuckle as I suspect the same could be said for a wind turbine at some arbitrary distance. Because you are right, neighbors should and do have a say on the topic when there's a chance it will affect their property rights and value.

It will be interesting to see how many of these Harwood city council members and mayor are kicked out of office in the next election.

 

[double account removed]

guy im sure itll be fine or u can move just not anywhere with power lines n water cuz its comin there too anyway there was never a chance this wouldnt go thru hence the nda’s secret meetings n such this is gonna happen elsewhere whether u like it or not your peasant opinion does not matter maybe make a few more million and itll count trumps doin what he said hed do i voted for this

 

[guywhofishes]

oof - noise would have the potential to piss me off big time

rustling leaves? what a dumb analogy. that can be LOUD in the fall

 

[Allen]

oof - noise would have the potential to piss me off big time

rustling leaves? what a dumb analogy. that can be LOUD in the fall

Right! That's what I thought. It doesn't do anything to help me fully understand just how loud it can be. The decibel level of rustling leaves varies quite a bit. With the money they spend on these things, you'd think they could afford an extra layer of sound insulation.

 

[1lessdog]

When changing zoning of any property they typically have to notify and get approval from adjoining or near by land owners that could adversely be affected or even benefit by the zoning change. what do you think this will do to the value of the nearby land? How would you feel if the county changed the zoning and allowed a junk yard or a large scale hog operation directly across from your rural property where you presently live. Would you still feel that the property owners could do whatever they want with their property ?

I know a Family that built a very nice house out in the country. No neighbors for a mile. Beautiful view looking to the N.W. A year later a company came in and put a wind tower/turbine a half mile to the N.W. of his house. He told me what was a peaceful setting is now gone. He had no say on where they put the towers.

 

[NDSportsman]

Have you MDU users seen your rates cut with all this money the AD CEO says the Ellendale plants been saving MDU?

Didn't think so......

 

[lunkerslayer]

Another article on water supplying these data centers, I wonder where they are going to get water to cool this data center down?
https://www.wpr.org/news/report-growing-demand-data-centers-industry-great-lakes-water

 

[double account removed]

Another article on water supplying these data centers, I wonder where they are going to get water to cool this data center down?
https://www.wpr.org/news/report-growing-demand-data-centers-industry-great-lakes-water

guess u shoulda thought bout that before u voted for this lmao

 

[Obi-Wan]

Another article on water supplying these data centers, I wonder where they are going to get water to cool this data center down?
https://www.wpr.org/news/report-growing-demand-data-centers-industry-great-lakes-water

Sounds like this one will used a closed water loop for cooling

 

[double account removed]

hmmm closed loop dont mean they aint still drawin in millions of gallons a day every steam plant in the state is a closed loop lmao

 

[Obi-Wan]

hmmm closed loop dont mean they aint still drawin in millions of gallons a day every steam plant in the state is a closed loop lmao

Applied Digital's planned AI data center near Harwood, North Dakota, will use an advanced, closed-loop cooling system
. This system is specifically designed to cool the facility's high-performance computers efficiently while using minimal water.
Key details about the cooling system:

• Closed-loop water-glycol system: The cooling system will not use water from the local municipal supply. Instead, it will use a self-contained, water-glycol mix that is circulated in a closed loop, meaning the fluid is reused.
• Low water usage: Due to the closed-loop design, the facility will consume very little water. Estimates suggest the total water usage for both data center buildings will be comparable to that of one or two single-family homes, used only for sinks, toilets, and equipment cleaning.
• Refrigerant-based cooling: An executive from Cass County Electric Cooperative specified that the system is a closed-loop refrigerant system.
• Sustainable design: Applied Digital states that the cooling technology is waterless and uses direct liquid cooling to minimize energy and water consumption.
• Uses cold climate: In addition to the closed-loop system, the cold North Dakota climate will be used to help cool the computers, further reducing the energy demands of the cooling system.
• Minimal noise: The computer equipment is housed inside sealed, precast concrete buildings, which contain most of the noise. The fans run less frequently in cold weather, minimizing their noise output when it would be most noticeable.

This cooling infrastructure is similar to the "Polaris Forge" liquid-cooled design used by Applied Digital at its other facilities, such as the one in Ellendale, North Dakota.

 

[bucksnbears]

Obi..., refrain man, refrain!.