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Browneye

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Thats because they arent building it to make money. They are building it to be able to control us. The people behind all these data centers don't need any more money.
 


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I bet harwood, the state of north dakota, or fargo wont make this mandatory because someone probably got a sweet financial deal.

In general, this makes a lot of sense. In this situation, there is a lot of excess power available for the data center because on Minnesota's 2040 carbon free mandate. A huge amount of power that used to go across the border will stay in ND instead to supply the data centers and keep our plants operating.
 

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In general, this makes a lot of sense. In this situation, there is a lot of excess power available for the data center because on Minnesota's 2040 carbon free mandate. A huge amount of power that used to go across the border will stay in ND instead to supply the data centers and keep our plants operating.
The power will still go to Minnesota. There is no way to differentiate a coal fired electron from a "green" one once it's on the grid. Minnesota will "feel" good because they think all of the power they receive is from "green" sources but Great river and Otter tail will continue to buy our "dirty" energy because there is no alternative.
 


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The power will still go to Minnesota. There is no way to differentiate a coal fired electron from a "green" one once it's on the grid. Minnesota will "feel" good because they think all of the power they receive is from "green" sources but Great river and Otter tail will continue to buy our "dirty" energy because there is no alternative.
Yes, they will still have to buy "dirty" electrons from the open market when their green fantasies don't work out. However, 2 major Minnesota electric companies have power purchase agreements with ND plants that are expiring soon and will not be renewed. That leaves the ND plants free to sell that capacity, no longer committed to Minnesota, to whoever they wish. This includes data centers or putting it on the open market when prices are high.
 

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How is MN going to get the needed energy? They are shuttimg down the remaining sherco plants by 2030 and replacing with some solar panels. To me tgat not enough to replace the loss of the plants..anyone know what their plan is...other then skyrocketing the consumers electric bill?
 

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Only Bismarck can make these ai data center meter up and i dont see that happening if campaign donations are involved.
 

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Mahony is full of bologna if it's true that his "crew" hadn't even been briefed on his knee jerk reaction no longer video public comments.
 


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