Hunting 'Unposted' Private Land

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And it's his 1st post. Hmmmmm....
Just don't touch his corn.
I actually found hunters from their posts on Ultimate Pheasant site and extended them an invite to hunt my places. I researched their posts and found them to be honorable in my opinion. And they were looking for a location here so because I trusted their honesty and ethical expressions. That was 10 years ago and I haven’t regretted it. Don’t expect an invite soon because all who have responded don’t seem to fit that category.
 


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Tell that to the three chickens there is no habitat by the roads I shot tonight. No one plows borders your dumb
Tell that to the three chickens there is no habitat by the roads I shot tonight. No one plows borders your dumb
I took a few pictures of what you deny happens here but they won’t load. ( security issue it states). So would gladly show you proof if there is another way.
 

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I take pictures of all posts/corners/gates if I hunt unposted, which is pretty rare unless I know the landowner. There’s too many assholes on every side of things anymore…..cover your ass. We’ve managed to completely fuck this state up in a matter of 10 years. Good job 👍
 

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That’s the way the law is written. I had nothing to do with the wording. It simply makes the process unconstitutional as entire description is never completed
So your grievance is with shit hunters. I can imagine most here would agree with you. The way the law is written you cant hunt the ditch if the adjacent land is posted. What you are trying to say if I hear you correctly is you are pissed off at the shitty people of the world and actually have a lot of respect for hunters who do it right. Again you’ll be in agreement with most of us here. We too dont like pieces of shit, whether it be hunters or landowners. It flows in both directions. But there isn’t a law that’ll protect you from pieces of shit. Nor will taking out your grievances on the wildlife by mowing down every inch of habitat.
 


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So your grievance is with shit hunters. I can imagine most here would agree with you. The way the law is written you cant hunt the ditch if the adjacent land is posted. What you are trying to say if I hear you correctly is you are pissed off at the shitty people of the world and actually have a lot of respect for hunters who do it right. Again you’ll be in agreement with most of us here. We too dont like pieces of shit, whether it be hunters or landowners. It flows in both directions. But there isn’t a law that’ll protect you from pieces of shit. Nor will taking out your grievances on the wildlife by mowing down every inch of habitat.
You‘re correct in some aspects. Of course grievance with shit hunters who have no respect for law or landowners wishes for whatever property he/ she may own . I also don’t appreciate the State creating a law that takes away the fundamental freedom all landowners/ homeowners etc expect for a special interest group. If the state passed a law requiring you to permit people to come into your home/ yard uninvited ( outside of law enforcement) for any reason you would have issues with it as well. And same law gets turned into a loophole to access property. Grievance against wildlife is the unintended consequence of farmers/ ranchers having their hands tied . I for one , still do my best to create great wildlife habitat but choke down anything near roads as the area is full of road hunters looking for the dash and grab opportunities . The roads here are littered with shells every year ( posted on both sides so illegal to hunt). So I focus on building what I can far enough away from roadsides to deter that practice. Yes hundreds of acres of habitat are lost because of that because farmers are put off by continual disrespect etc . But to give that law breaker free access to your posted land ( when they shot that bird in the ditch ) or shot that deer from the road is just over the top and encourages that behavior as the law goes to them.
are you a landowner? If so how does it make you feel when someone drops a group of people at your gate and they proceed to trespass your land because they use a wounded deer story and proceed to flush your property to party members on the other side to shoot whatever comes out? And the State gave them that right as you have no way of knowing ( unless you observed it all) whether they are truthful or not? It Is so easy for them to shoot a deer say 200 yards into your property and walk right in to claim it was shot elsewhere etc and if you didn’t see it firsthand there’s nothing you can do. I know of only ND and Iowa and now believe Minn also passed that law and landowners are now finding out what that means to them. Posting only keeps out the ethical people of course ( But when the law is written giving lawbreakers the edge that’s too much) I’m not sure what constitutes a shit landowner to you ( doesn’t everyone deserve the right to manage their property the way they want to) ? Don’t you do that with your home / vehicle etc. etc? Does that make you shit?
 

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I took a few pictures of what you deny happens here but they won’t load. ( security issue it states). So would gladly show you proof if there is another way.
Gotta have permission to go after wounded or dead big game here. So the scenario you bring up is never happening here. People walking and pushing deer is weird to me that was never even a thing growing up or now for anyone I hunt or have hunted with
 


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Gotta have permission to go after wounded or dead big game here. So the scenario you bring up is never happening here. People walking and pushing deer is weird to me that was never even a thing growing up or now for anyone I hunt or have hunted with
You do know a pickup is not considered a hunting blind right resourse boy. Wait you will have your dog retrieve them. Fetch Spot fetch him up.
 
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Gotta have permission to go after wounded or dead big game here. So the scenario you bring up is never happening here. People walking and pushing deer is weird to me that was never even a thing growing up or now for anyone I hunt or have hunted with
That’s the way it should be. No state should take private property rights away from it’s citizens (especially for special interest groups) That’s my biggest beef. I know there will always be shit hunters who disregard any and every law because they just don’t care, but when the state makes it easier for them to do so just burns a lot of farmers/ ranchers here so they do things to decrease habitat so nothing is there for them to be rewarded with when they exploit the unconstitutional law. Many farmers have had buildings , old cars etc searched ( items stolen)etc when deer season comes around as some busy bodies either have to know what they have or want easy access to steal.etc so use the looking for a deer they shot next door or elsewhere ( of course none exist in most cases) for a reason to go looking. Or again they want to hunt your place so use it as a reason to do so.
I wonder what special Interest group will be given permission to trespass your property by the state next? National arrowhead hunters of America, Flower pickers unlimited , you name it.
 

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You‘re correct in some aspects. Of course grievance with shit hunters who have no respect for law or landowners wishes for whatever property he/ she may own . I also don’t appreciate the State creating a law that takes away the fundamental freedom all landowners/ homeowners etc expect for a special interest group. If the state passed a law requiring you to permit people to come into your home/ yard uninvited ( outside of law enforcement) for any reason you would have issues with it as well. And same law gets turned into a loophole to access property. Grievance against wildlife is the unintended consequence of farmers/ ranchers having their hands tied . I for one , still do my best to create great wildlife habitat but choke down anything near roads as the area is full of road hunters looking for the dash and grab opportunities . The roads here are littered with shells every year ( posted on both sides so illegal to hunt). So I focus on building what I can far enough away from roadsides to deter that practice. Yes hundreds of acres of habitat are lost because of that because farmers are put off by continual disrespect etc . But to give that law breaker free access to your posted land ( when they shot that bird in the ditch ) or shot that deer from the road is just over the top and encourages that behavior as the law goes to them.
are you a landowner? If so how does it make you feel when someone drops a group of people at your gate and they proceed to trespass your land because they use a wounded deer story and proceed to flush your property to party members on the other side to shoot whatever comes out? And the State gave them that right as you have no way of knowing ( unless you observed it all) whether they are truthful or not? It Is so easy for them to shoot a deer say 200 yards into your property and walk right in to claim it was shot elsewhere etc and if you didn’t see it firsthand there’s nothing you can do. I know of only ND and Iowa and now believe Minn also passed that law and landowners are now finding out what that means to them. Posting only keeps out the ethical people of course ( But when the law is written giving lawbreakers the edge that’s too much) I’m not sure what constitutes a shit landowner to you ( doesn’t everyone deserve the right to manage their property the way they want to) ? Don’t you do that with your home / vehicle etc. etc? Does that make you shit?
I can understand that frustration. Tbh that would piss me off as well if you knew there wasn’t actually a wounded deer and it was a bullshit excuse. That law probably does need revisiting. I’d have to think the law was put into place to keep deer from being wasted and a reasonable effort made to recover. And you are correct Ive heard this story from other landowners too. It seems to be the same characters doing it yearly. To me it comes down to a few just shit people that abuse everything. What if the law were rewritten to include language that landowners or game and fish must be notified before entry. That way if there actually was a wounded animal the owner could be present or even help find it. Youd think this would eliminate bogus claims of wounded animals
 

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And to define what a shit landowners is for clarity. The guy that posts all his, his aunts, his cousins, his 3rd removed half sibling from 3xs ago. Then patrols it and chews out anyone driving down the township road. Meanwhile he has killed 24 160” bucks over the years and still beats his chest being selfish AF. Or the quarter that they rent but the landowner who is absintee doesn’t want posted. The farmer that makes the effort to drive out during their hunt and make them aware he farms it. There’s greedy people on both sides and there’s assholes on both sides too. Unfortunate as it is eventually you run into one here or there. Hopefully there’s a bigger shift to respect in the coming years. Both from hunters and from landowners. Life’s too short to lose your shit over a pheasant or a deer but I do understand your frustration.
 


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And to define what a shit landowners is for clarity. The guy that posts all his, his aunts, his cousins, his 3rd removed half sibling from 3xs ago. Then patrols it and chews out anyone driving down the township road. Meanwhile he has killed 24 160” bucks over the years and still beats his chest being selfish AF. Or the quarter that they rent but the landowner who is absintee doesn’t want posted. The farmer that makes the effort to drive out during their hunt and make them aware he farms it. There’s greedy people on both sides and there’s assholes on both sides too. Unfortunate as it is eventually you run into one here or there. Hopefully there’s a bigger shift to respect in the coming years. Both from hunters and from landowners. Life’s too short to lose your shit over a pheasant or a deer but I do understand your frustration.
Yes the law needs to changed to give private property owners their rights back. Without a change posting is pointless to anyone exploiting the true intent of it.
I would have to know full circumstances of landowners intent in scenarios you mentioned. Some could be posting for relatives because they were asked to. I know a couple of crippled people here that have that done for them. with leasing land some owners retain hunting rights some give the option to the leaser of it. I certainly understand a landowner driving out to check property especially if they have had a lot of trouble there.
chewing out people driving section roads is a no no as they are open to public travel and could be considered hunter harassment . If they are running quarter lines that’s a different animal.
as you said it isn’t worth losing your shit if you can’t shoot a deer or pheasant because it’s on posted land ...just move on to where you legally can.
what constitutes shit land owners to me are ones who live out in the boonies and hunt the big buck etc the day or days before hunting season opens so no one else gets it.
The ones who bait animals in restricted zones closed to baiting ( some own thousands of acres and how is it even possible for law enforcement to check on that effectively?
the ones who get gratis licenses and then sell them ( under the table) to friends/ others etc.
the ones who deliberately post on corner posts of both their land and absent neighbors to try to save it for themselves ( post your sign inside your land) not on property borders.
 

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It seems like they don't ask the hunting and fishing community before they pass laws to at least make them a little more common sensed.
 

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