I have no knowledge of the groups you speak of or what they do. Simply a landowner who wants the crap to stop. Every year it seems I have to deal with a wounded deer story and I have no recourse then to allow them to "hunt" my posted land. Statute says a landowner is supposed to have peaceful enjoyment of their property. Well I'm having little of that with yahoos exploiting the "permission law"You really are giving those vibes. Im really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you’re making it hard
You came here thinking you’d find a forum that doesn’t turn into a dumpster fire? come on man… what are you 12?
I have a suggestion that would work well. Find a couple of ethical good dudes or dudettes that you trust who enjoy hunting. Invite them out to hunt the days you can’t be around to help you look after the place. I can promise you those who are graciously invited to hunt someone’s land and have a relationship and respect for it will look after it better than if it were their own. It’s either that or start documenting who is doing it. If it’s a common occurrence where you are then it’s very likely a group or few vegabonds that need a correction anyhow. But changing a law because criminals wanna be criminals seems a bit on the overreactive sideI have no knowledge of the groups you speak of or what they do. Simply a landowner who wants the crap to stop. Every year it seems I have to deal with a wounded deer story and I have no recourse then to allow them to "hunt" my posted land. Statute says a landowner is supposed to have peaceful enjoyment of their property. Well I'm having little of that with yahoos exploiting the "permission law"
Your word against theirs and their simple statement “we are looking for a wounded deer “ gives them a pass. That’s the loopholeFor the last time there’s already a law in place forbidding what they are doing. If there is no animal, they are trespassing and you need to report them. No loophole, nothing.
Age is irrelevant to argument. I came here looking for ideas and debate on the subject. I found that. You believe the government should have the authority to access, I believe the landowner should. We’ll leave it at that .You came here thinking you’d find a forum that doesn’t turn into a dumpster fire? come on man… what are you 12?
So the Warden takes their side every time you call them?Your word against theirs and their simple statement “we are looking for a wounded deer “ gives them a pass. That’s the loophole
just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
If people would quit arguing with him he would go away. He has a Scenario for everything brought up. Be smarter then the way your acting.Those were my thoughts. Ive never had to enter private land to retrieve a deer. From the direction this thread is going one of two things is happening here. 1) you are dealing with some nefarious and poor excuses for hunters who are overall shitty people or have an isolated area with a few bad actors that is not representative to the entire state. Or…..2) you are sent here to cause division and plant a seed for upcoming legislation by a group or faction pushing an agenda. Which in and of itself is quite nefarious. You keep calling hunters “a special interest group” Ive never once heard individuals who engage in hunting call themselves that, nor reference other hunters that way…. Something’s stinky over here…..
If people would quit arguing with him he would go away. He has a Scenario for everything brought up. Be smarter then the way your acting.
So how do you feel about coyote hunters?Your wrong on all accounts. I am a landowner and a hunter. I just found this site yesterday and found this topic to be of interest to me so who cares how old the original post is if it’s of importance today? People wonder why habitat is decreasing in ND and I have many farmers friends who share the same feelings regarding the unconstitutional seizure of private property. It’s not just economics as to why habitat is disappearing, it’s the disrespectful behavior of those who exploit the law. If you owned land you would understand more clearly. If you are hunting yourself or have family or friends coming from afar it’s pretty frustrating to have groups circling your posted property and if given opportunity will shoot anything in range of the roadway and hence the creation of the famous “ wounded deer story” most farmers encounter. Because of the way the law is written you now have people being dropped at one end of a posted property without weapons while the rest of the party goes to the other side to see if anything is flushed out. When questioned it’s always the “ wounded deer story excuse” even though you watched the whole thing unfold. Tell me if you were the landowner you wouldn’t be pissed off at that. No land is unhuntable in ND with that wording. The only way frustrated farmers/ ranchers have to fight back is to make the habitat disappear so nothing is there to tempt them. So you don’t think ditches mowed to golf course height along posted land is just a coincidence? And food sources tilled under in fields next to roadways is just to catch snow? You have a lot to learn.
NDGF pleads with farmers/ ranchers to create more habitat but why would they if it brings nothing but added problems with unethical hunters, who disrespect landowners using a loophole in the system to hunt posted property
you’re also wrong about accusing me of looking for payment to access. I have a large group of pheasant hunters I invited to hunt my property every year and refuse any kind of payment they have offered. Never have/ never will charge for hunting to those who do it the right way .