I HATE coyotes!!!!

[1lessdog]

I have an athlon cronus atn pro in 35p-400 and have no complaints for the price.

It doesn't have a range finder but I have a 6 creed and am able to hold center mass to about 400 yards

Here's a video I saved last spring during calving season just to give an idea what its like

I would love to see your load data and gr bullet and speed to hold center mass with a 6 Creedmoor at 400 yds.

 

[sweeney]

What brand of thermals do you use. I am looking at this one. Looking at that 1500 ish price range

I have had the v1 of that same rattler for a few years, it is definitely entry level and works good out to 150-200 yards, personally if you really enjoy coyote hunting I would level up to something like the varminter right away with the LRF, i seen a few in that same price range right now. After you buy one of these cheaper ones you will realize that you should have probably spent double what you did and buy another nicer one at least 640 with an lrf. But bottom line is if you are just wanting to try thermal hunting, it is a good entry level, and makes a decent scanner or spare for hunting buddy once you buy your newer one.

 

[Kurtr]

I have had the v1 of that same rattler for a few years, it is definitely entry level and works good out to 150-200 yards, personally if you really enjoy coyote hunting I would level up to something like the varminter right away with the LRF, i seen a few in that same price range right now. After you buy one of these cheaper ones you will realize that you should have probably spent double what you did and buy another nicer one at least 640 with an lrf. But bottom line is if you are just wanting to try thermal hunting, it is a good entry level, and makes a decent scanner or spare for hunting buddy once you buy your newer one.

That sounds about what I want not really serious but want something to go out when I am bored in the winter and be able to shoot 100-150 yds. Thanks for the review

 

[SupressYourself]

What brand of thermals do you use. I am looking at this one. Looking at that 1500 ish price range

I have a Bering Optics Super Yoter scope and Nocpix binos for a scanner. Both 640 cores.
If you do it much at all, you'll find you really need a scanner.

There's a lot of good options out there these days. Nocpix, Pulsar, AMG all receive high praise, so it's really about the specs and features you want. A ranger finder on the scope is really handy. It's really tough to judge distance through a thermal.

I would say a 384 resolution is the absolute minimum for coyotes in the wide open spaces of SD / ND. 640 looks about 2x better, and is the minimum I would consider for myself.

 

[SupressYourself]

How do you sight those things in?

There's a lot of different ways. You just need something much warmer or colder than the surrounding area. Hand warmers are popular, but provide too big of a heat signature for precision shooting. The toe warmers are better, and typically don't explode when you hit them.

Something highly reflective works too. I usually make a cross on cardboard with aluminum tape.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I just purchased a V2 Rattler Lrf 35x384. I used a 4 inch steel and heated it with my propane torch. I had it against a sand bank. When the bullet hit the sand it had enough energy to warm the sand and make it glow for a couple minutes. I thought I would need a smaller target, but if you don't heat the steel to much bullet strikes will glow for a few seconds. Long enough to use freeze frame.

 

[SDMF]

If you can shoot w/a warming sun @ your back, the grid lines on a regular target (white paper, any color ink) will warm up enough vs. the white paper to work just fine.

 

[Kurtr]

Talk about going down a rabbit hole. This one looks interesting and talking with people that have used really like it. The AI tech keeping the pixelation down and having the range finder seems like good features at a good price point.


https://us.dntoptics.com/products/h...r-standalone-scope-clip-on-handheld-monocular

 

[SupressYourself]

Couple more from the weekend.

 

[bigv]

There's a lot of different ways. You just need something much warmer or colder than the surrounding area. Hand warmers are popular, but provide too big of a heat signature for precision shooting. The toe warmers are better, and typically don't explode when you hit them.

Something highly reflective works too. I usually make a cross on cardboard with aluminum tape.

So same as a regular scope turning dials, turrets etc. You just have to do at dark with something heat or reflective?

 

[SupressYourself]

So same as a regular scope turning dials, turrets etc. You just have to do at dark with something heat or reflective?

You don't need to do it in the dark at all. In fact, if you go the reflective route, you need some light shining on it.
As far as scope adjustments, it depends on the scope, but most are done through an on-screen menu. Even on thermal scopes that have a "traditional" scope look, the "turrets" are not used for reticle adjustment. Instead, they may be a battery compartment or a menu selector knob.

 

[SDMF]

So same as a regular scope turning dials, turrets etc. You just have to do at dark with something heat or reflective?

Daylight or dark doesn’t matter w/thermal. The only thing that matters is that there is a temp differential between the ambient air and the target.

 

[bucksnbears]

This fresh snow is gonna be the desmise of coyotes starting tomorrow morning.

 

[1lessdog]

I would love to see your load data and gr bullet and speed to hold center mass with a 6 Creedmoor at 400 yds.

I have a 22 Creedmoor and can't do it with that. You must have magic bullets.

I do have a 22-6MM AI with a 1 - 14 twist and 26 inch barrel. Shooting a Sierra 50 gr Blitzking at just shy of 4300 fps and I hold on fur out to 475 yds with a 2.5 inches high at 100 yds. And I know my Creedmoor won't do that.

 

[Tikka280ai]

I have a 22 Creedmoor and can't do it with that. You must have magic bullets.

I do have a 22-6MM AI with a 1 - 14 twist and 26 inch barrel. Shooting a Sierra 50 gr Blitzking at just shy of 4300 fps and I hold on fur out to 475 yds with a 2.5 inches high at 100 yds. And I know my Creedmoor won't do that.

80 grain eldvt at 3450 sighted in 3 inches high at 100 gives me a maximum point blank range of roughly 380 yards figuring a 8 inch target.

Shot this load to 400 yds and it held true at 50 degree temps. Granted it'll most likely be a bit diffrent with temps around 0