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Oh man, that sucks. Yeah..for the short term, I wouldn't let the dog near the child. If you have a garage/outdoor kennel, I would suggest putting dog there in the short term...with enough water and cold weather provisions of course until you have a solution. Perhaps a farm home with no kids is a solution. Of course if you hand him over to someone else you would need to be clear and upfront on what has happened. You do not want something happening to someone else and you not telling them the history. Not sure if there would be any liability there but no use taking chances with that! At the end of the day..if no home can be found, you will have to do what is necessary to protect your child. Sucks. Good luck to you!
 


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bisman online? try surrendering to humane soc?

I have an ad on Bisman, and my name is on the waiting list with the humane society. Problem is they take strays as a priority, but if someone is looking for a dog my name is on a list with them.

For now he is separated from the child. We have him locked in the basement. We are getting rid of him, just would like to find an appropriate home. He really is a loveable dog for the most part, just can't be trusted around an infant child.

For anyone that has been interested, we have been completely honest about why we are looking for a new home and would have them sign a disclosure agreement so we have proof that they are aware of his behavior.

Just amazes me that he has bit our daughter. Most of the time he protects her and is very good with her, but our daughter comes first.
 

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Trust is gone. That's key. A dog can sense a lot of things, and if it knows you're leery around it, game over. He's alpha now, or at least he'll act like it.

Remember if/when you get another dog, that no matter what you may think their personality is going to be like, assume they are going to be an evil, maniacal little shit. The absolute worst thing pet owners do is treat their dogs like humans. For the first year of your dog's life, treat it like a wild animal that understands two things: pain and pleasure. Never underestimate a dog's ability to figure out how to get what it wants. Especially when they're teenagers (about 7 months to 1.5 years) they are going to turn 180 degrees from a pup to a crazed hound. If you've done nothing but gush over a puppy until then, good luck.

Any dog, whether it's a pit-bull or a chihuahua, needs to be treated the same way (to varying degrees, obviously). The problems happen when assumptions are made, such as "well, it's a Lab! They're friendly and fun loving all the time. We don't need to train it." ALL dogs need SOME level of training.

From Day 1, you should be handling the pup and letting others handle it. Bring it to baseball games. Have random strangers touch it and pet it. Under supervision, allow kids to handle it (gently, of course, you don't want your pup getting assaulted and having that burned into its brain). During feeding time, play with its food. During play time, allow it to have a toy, but take it away. If at any moment it growls or shows aggression, unleash the powers of Odin on it. Fire and brimstone. You need to make a lasting impression that this type of behavior Will. Not. Be. Tolerated.

Now you've set the bar. As long as you maintain these expectations, the dog should progress well. Never let your guard down, because some dogs will constantly try to dominate. And this doesn't mean one breed or one sex. They can all act that way.

I could go on and on, but you get the gist. I own a breed (German wirehairs) that has a history of being standoffish and aggressive. I also had a Welsh corgi as a family dog growing up. Of both dogs, guess which was the biter? Yes, the cute, fluffy corgi. Because we treated it like a toy and a baby, not like a wild critter. I didn't make that same mistake when I trained my wirehairs. Now my 2-year old can poke and prod either of them, and I have zero worries. Because the groundwork is done.

I'm not harping, and I certainly am not judging you for your dog. I don't know the story, and I'm not about to make assumptions. I've just seen this sort of thing happen time and time again. If there ever is another dog, you can assure it's at least set on the right path by laying ground rules at an early age.

Good luck with the Lab! I hope you're able to come to a conclusion that benefits everyone.
 

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Zak my first dog at 2 years old came before my daughter so when my daughter showed up he acted aggressive one time with her and me the alpha was on him in a instant after that no more aggression after 3 months he was her best buddy. Males are good at trying to be alpha. both of my males I had to establish dominantice . the big one was reaching in and taking food from there dish when they were eating only had to do that once and the boss was made. all this happen at a young age with the dogs. A dog at 4 could be fixed but you have to much at stake to take that chance. sorry to hear this. good luck .
 

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Thans for the info and help gents. If you know of anyone looking for a dog please let me know. I think he would actually be able to be trained to hunt. He has some great natural instincts. I would like to see him live a good life and hope we don't have to go the put down option.

Daughter is ok. Almost lost an eye. got a tooth right on the upper eye lid. Needed a couple stitches but could have been so much worse. We are thankful. Not how we planned her first christmas.

What a terrible deal. I dont like shooting domestic animals but in this case i would take the dog outside and wack him in a New York minute.
 


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I didn't think any Labs would do that.

A poorly trained, or untrained dog will. Labs might be less likely than a more aggressive breed however. Dog need to be raised knowing its at the bottom of the pecking order in the house, by that age it might be hard to turn around unfortunately. I agree with getting rid of the dog and maybe starting over with better training once the child is a couple years old.
 

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Hailstone Creek Animal Rescue out of New Salem. 701-400-5762. They are worth a shot
 

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Sucky deal, but I wouldn't even gift a dog to someone else that has previously been aggressive to a kid. You never know when they will have a kid over to visit, or runs across one in a park, etc. IMHO, the dog needs to be put down regardless of all its other good traits.

I have zero tolerance for my dogs when it comes to either injuring someone, OR creating a huge legal liability for me. You already know the dog is a risk. That is a legal problem, IMHO...for the life of the dog.
 

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Sucky deal, but I wouldn't even gift a dog to someone else that has previously been aggressive to a kid. You never know when they will have a kid over to visit, or runs across one in a park, etc. IMHO, the dog needs to be put down regardless of all its other good traits.

I have zero tolerance for my dogs when it comes to either injuring someone, OR creating a huge legal liability for me. You already know the dog is a risk. That is a legal problem, IMHO...for the life of the dog.

If it was 100% up to me the dog would be put down. But it's the girlfriends dog. He was hers before our relationship started.
 


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Sucky deal, but I wouldn't even gift a dog to someone else that has previously been aggressive to a kid. You never know when they will have a kid over to visit, or runs across one in a park, etc. IMHO, the dog needs to be put down regardless of all its other good traits.

I have zero tolerance for my dogs when it comes to either injuring someone, OR creating a huge legal liability for me. You already know the dog is a risk. That is a legal problem, IMHO...for the life of the dog.

Agree 110% If mine he would of been gone by now.:;:deadhorse
 

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If it was 100% up to me the dog would be put down. But it's the girlfriends dog. He was hers before our relationship started.

ahhhhhhhhh..now this is starting to make some sense....perhaps to get into the dogs mind if you will...first it was you invading the dog's time with her...and now comes another intruder..the child. I am in no way condoning what the dog did..just think there may be more going on in that dogs head...what do I know though? At any rate..that dog needed to be shown who was the boss and who was the pet early on..and it doesn't appear that it was.
 

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someone outside of this site spoke with me regarding this thread. they shared their concerns. you need to remove the dog from the property the child resides. the dog also needs to be put down asap. putting the fact that the dog has caused serious injury not once but twice to a child, yet continues to reside on the same property as the child, could be considered endangerment. this is not somewhere you or your gf want to go.

it would be in everyones best interest to try and convince volmer to nuke this thread/make it disappear stat

this is one person's opinion. i tend to agree with it. good luck.
 
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I know a bachelor on a farm that is pretty fond of labs, no kids around.... I will be up his way tomorrow and check with him to see if he is interested.
 


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someone outside of this site spoke with me regarding this thread. they shared their concerns. you need to remove the dog from the property the child resides. the dog also needs to be put down asap. putting the fact that the dog has caused serious injury not once but twice to a child, yet continues to reside on the same property as the child, could be considered endangerment. this is not somewhere you or your gf want to go.

it would be in everyones best interest to try and convince volmer to nuke this thread/make it disappear stat

this is one person's opinion. i tend to agree with it. good luck.

Agreed.
 

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Is this friend of yours also a chemical engineer that works for a chemical company/government agency and will stick it to you if you use a pesticide incorrectly, or give bad bug advice?
 

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my older lab was 3 when i got a kid and wife he had one tug of war over a dummy with kid when boy was about 2 it never happened again and after that they were buddies to this day. When we got another pup he was protective of my son if the new puppy would knock him down while they were playing the older dog would go over and settle the pup down. From day one both of them even the little ankle bitter knows who the boss is...me. This is tough situation for sure.
 

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Is this friend of yours also a chemical engineer that works for a chemical company/government agency and will stick it to you if you use a pesticide incorrectly, or give bad bug advice?

There was never a thread about pesticide or herbicide application. Maybe we should start one?

This thread ought to be nuked like the pesticide thread that never existed.
 

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Is this friend of yours also a chemical engineer that works for a chemical company/government agency and will stick it to you if you use a pesticide incorrectly, or give bad bug advice?

friend? i have no friends. cereal.
 


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