Noise Ordinance for Boats

[johnr]

Makes me want to early morning ride the Harley to the ramp and rev the bike for a half an hour.
Eff that guy

 

[Lycanthrope]

Makes me want to early morning ride the Harley to the ramp and rev the bike for a half an hour.
Eff that guy

Eye say g0 4 1t

 

[Kurtr]

to bad i dont have my old sled with the pipes i made for it he would love that

 

[Allen]

Makes me want to early morning ride the Harley to the ramp and rev the bike for a half an hour.
Eff that guy

Hah, you will be pleasantly surprised with how many other bikers pull into that parking lot during the course of a day. It's the only pit stop between Linton/Beaver Bay and Bismarck. You guys can get into a Harley version of dueling banjos!

 

[ndlongshot]

Hah, you will be pleasantly surprised with how many other bikers pull into that parking lot during the course of a day. It's the only pit stop between Linton/Beaver Bay and Bismarck. You guys can get into a Harley version of dueling banjos!

Need to do it at night, apparently!

 

[shorthairsrus]

Meh -how come when your on one --- it seems like the wildlife are not effected that much by it. Or do they pay them gators to sit next to the boat traffic. I have been in a few --- they are fun but only as a passenger so you really dont get the effect of the noise. the noise IMO the Harleys and some of these other bikes make - #1 worse --- second place some of these trucks and guys without mufflers. I dont care if its a safety issue or not -- bikes should be muffed bigtime. Any vehicle that sends me a report on my phone as noise when i have my detection set at the lowest should be allowed The fireworks convention is 1000X vs a random airboat --- i will take that airboat 24-7.

 

[dean nelson]

Harleys are maxed out at 80 dbs off the line where airboats often fall in the 90 to 120 range.

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There is a plan by the city of Bismarck to start a new development along the river. Don't be surprised if there isn't a push for speed limits and noise limits in the future in the city limits of Bismarck/Mandan and not just at night but also during the day. Imagine making Bismarck a no wake zone. It's really not that far fetched. If they are going to spend millions of dollars developing it, I can see someone trying to regulate the activity on the water. Just a thought.

The city has no plans the new mayor has an idea but he clearly has never been down there since there is nowhere to build such a place! The only stretch that could be developed is the stuff along River Road where the bike path is but no one's going to ever allow that because it's everybody's favorite chunk of the bike path the rest of it's all floodplain. Furthermore the city has no jurisdiction over the river thus the reason why you could legally hunt the river in the middle of town if you wanted to.

 

[KDM]

I don't fish out there much so my dog is pretty small in this fight, but to me this is unenforceable rubbish. The ONLY parts of this idiocy that is NOT open to interpretation by anyone is 1. If the noise is natural or unnatural 2. the time and location, and 3. What the decibel measurement is at 25ft. Now to me, the first two are clear, but who the heck is NOT going to notice a dude with a meter walking up to you if you are at the dock or another boat rolling up to you if you are on the water?? All you have to do is cut the noise before they get to 25 ft and it's pretty much over. In my mind this proposal is worthless and even if it does pass, won't affect anyone, to include the air boat guy. JMHO though. Hopefully this proposal gets shot down just like the trespass stupidity.

 

[BDub]

Harleys are maxed out at 80 dbs off the line where airboats often fall in the 90 to 120 range.

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The city has no plans the new mayor has an idea but he clearly has never been down there since there is nowhere to build such a place! The only stretch that could be developed is the stuff along River Road where the bike path is but no one's going to ever allow that because it's everybody's favorite chunk of the bike path the rest of it's all floodplain. Furthermore the city has no jurisdiction over the river thus the reason why you could legally hunt the river in the middle of town if you wanted to.

The new mayor is an idiot.

 

[ndlongshot]

The new mayor is an idiot.

Hes a 100x better than the past tax happy dipstick.

 

[bowcarp]

I imagine they use the big motor to get up in the shallows and they pole around from there until they get ready to leave. There's an awful lot of shallow water within a mile or two of that boat ramp. You wouldn't want to run a prop up in those shallows as it's full of wood.

I've been gone so long I don't even remember this ramp , here's a little of what I do know ,Open a air boat up very loud but they will still shoot fish with the big motor just idle it down and away they go , fast shooting with the videos I've seen it looks like they are still moving more than a few MPH , SDMF mentioned the fan boats same thing , they'll use the fan to push the boat along to get shallower and just fish with the fan , generators are a mixed lot now I'd say they are still the most popular but more and more are going to LED with battery banks , more than a few places especially down south have lost lakes and had others red zoned due to noise restrictions , I'd take this threat seriously , have not been involved in anything like this personally where I have read and followed some of these things has been on bowfishingcountry.

https://youtu.be/Wp2zGfLCMwQ

 

[tikkalover]

Isn't there encroachment laws for things like this? After the train derailment in Minot we had meetings with the state Ag. Dept. about the safety of anhydrous ammonia. There was a lady at one of them, stating that there was a coop that had an anhydrous site down the road from her house and that she wanted them to move it because she was scared of all the nurse tanks and transport trucks driving by her house. One of the people that put on the meeting asked her what was there first, the storage tank or her house. Her reply, was the tank was there first. Guy said that she could try and have the coop move the tank, but more then likely beings the tank was there first that she probably didn't have a snowballs chance in hell that they would move it.

 

[NDwalleyes]

The new mayor is an idiot.

Obviously you've never met him. He's a great guy and very smart and trying to spend our money for the good of the order, rather than the crony capitalism downtown development ass hats. Expanding business development grows our tax base, expands tourism dollars and keeps our property taxes low. As for the location for the riverfront development.... think Sertoma Park.

He in the same boat as Trump in that he is fighting old ways of thinking, especially within the City departments.

 

[dean nelson]

Obviously you've never met him. He's a great guy and very smart and trying to spend our money for the good of the order, rather than the crony capitalism downtown development ass hats. Expanding business development grows our tax base, expands tourism dollars and keeps our property taxes low. As for the location for the riverfront development.... think Sertoma Park.

He in the same boat as Trump in that he is fighting old ways of thinking, especially within the City departments.

But like has already been pointed out how do you develop that that's all flood plain out in front there so you'd either have to backfill it in which would be stupid or have whatever you have located three hundred yards from the water.

As for the original topic I see they've not changed the wording to airboats instead of just boats.

 

[JayKay]

But like has already been pointed out how do you develop that that's all flood plain out in front there so you'd either have to backfill it in which would be stupid or have whatever you have located three hundred yards from the water.

As for the original topic I see they've not changed the wording to airboats instead of just boats.

Where you live right now, was once floodplain. You and me both.

You think floodplain can't be changed - that the houses along the river aren't built up? Think Hogue Island. All of that was flood plain.

You think that spending the money to develop that land, would be stupid - that it can't be done? Ask Kevin Turnbow.

Ask any of the developers who've built entire neighborhood along the river.

Granted, none of it would be possible without Garrison Dam, but the dam is now in place.

It's a gold mine. If it weren't, there would still only be the original few houses along the river.

 

[Bfishn]

Where you live right now, was once floodplain. You and me both.

You think floodplain can't be changed - that the houses along the river aren't built up? Think Hogue Island. All of that IS flood plain.

You think that spending the money to develop that land, would be stupid - that it can't be done? Ask Kevin Turnbow.

Ask any of the developers who've built entire neighborhood along the river.

Granted, none of it would be possible without Garrison Dam, but the dam is now in place.

It's a gold mine. If it weren't, there would still only be the original few houses along the river.

Yes i think the city spending money on developing land that IS a floodplain and has flooded several times in the last decade would be idiotic. Everything you listed has flooded recently and is still a flood plain. If some private developer still wants to stick money into something that is totally different, as long as its not my money.

 

[dean nelson]

Where you live right now, was once floodplain. You and me both.

You think floodplain can't be changed - that the houses along the river aren't built up? Think Hogue Island. All of that was flood plain.

You think that spending the money to develop that land, would be stupid - that it can't be done? Ask Kevin Turnbow.

Ask any of the developers who've built entire neighborhood along the river.

Granted, none of it would be possible without Garrison Dam, but the dam is now in place.

It's a gold mine. If it weren't, there would still only be the original few houses along the river.

Big difference in floodplain in the area I live vs that ground... almost 10 feet difference as a matter of fact. That ground out there floods every single year and the only way to raise it would be to do something along the lines of Southport. Worse yet filling in that area you removes an area for the river to stretch out when she comes up out of her banks. Bismarcks been pretty good at leaving a gap between the main part of town and the river with Southport being the one glaring exception. It's best just to leave her an open slot to run through and that area from just below the water treatment plant down to the north edge of South Park is pure floodplain that floods every single year generally two to three times a year not once every 30 and tampering with that area is just not a great idea.

 

[Reprobait]

Single boat, complaint reaches Legislature





BISMARCK – One man likes peace and quiet, yet he owns a home in close proximity to an active Missouri River boat ramp. Another man owns an airboat which can generate considerable noise. A bill introduced in the state Legislature is aimed at settling a quarrel between the two men.
In its original form, Senate Bill 2342 sought to restrict operation of any boat or watercraft if it resulted in “a noise that annoys, disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of a reasonable person hearing the noise.” It further stipulated that “a noise exceeding eighty-eight decibels” between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. would be a violation.
The bill was amended to apply to airboats only, specifically a single airboat that occasionally operates on the Missouri River south of Bismarck. It is believed to be the only privately owned airboat in North Dakota. The bill does not apply to airboats commonly used on National Wildlife Refuges or by law enforcement.
Airboats, sometimes called “fan boats,” are pushed by a large airplane-type propeller powered by a gasoline motor. They can be quite noisy. Airboat operators and passengers generally wear hearing protection. SB 2342 would require that private airboats be equipped with a “muffler” device.
The amended version of SB 2342, or airboat bill, received a “do pass” recommendation from the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee and was brought to a vote on the Senate floor. It passed 37-9 and will advance to the House for further consideration.

http://www.minotdailynews.com/news/local-news/2019/02/single-boat-complaint-reaches-legislature/

 

[guywhofishes]

holy cow

money talks

 

[Retired Educator]

What am I missing? If this article is true and there is actually only one or two airboats in ND, then the time spent by the Senate on this issue is worth it. They need to get ahead of this issue before we are overrun with airboats. Well done Senate. And I thought Cortex's plan to end air-traffic was a little off-center. Or more precisely completely out of the circle.