Predictions for deer season 26

Rut2much

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We could use coyote fur prices to skyrocket for incentive along with talks of a bounty possibly even though I love the damn things more than most..
I'm happy if I can get a chance to draw a buck tag at least every few years (not 5-8 or at all like last year) and/or go call coyotes anytime I choose at the end of the day.
 


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We could use coyote fur prices to skyrocket for incentive along with talks of a bounty possibly even though I love the damn things more than most..
I'm happy if I can get a chance to draw a buck tag at least every few years (not 5-8 or at all like last year) and/or go call coyotes anytime I choose at the end of the day.
Yep, fawns are very easy for coyotes to find. The lack of cover for does to seek out to drop fawns keeps getting worse.
Now add bears,wolves,fisher and bobcats into it.

Bottom line, ND is fighting things on several fronts deer wise.
 

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I agree with Bacon. I have been deer hunting for almost 50 years now and have seen the populations before crp, with crp, and after alot of crp has come out. At least in my area I don't think crp has quite the impact alot of you think it does. Winters are the biggest factor and coyotes the other. Aside from the big die off of whitetails from the midgets lol about 5 or 6 years ago I don't notice huge swings in deer populations back and forth. Since I have been hunting the fall of 24 was the least amount of deer at deer season in my lifetime. That winter I personally know of over 50 coyotes that were taken in my small general area. Those are just the ones I know of that were taken Im sure there were more. How much meat does it take to feed 50 coyotes every day 365 days a year? What chance does a fawn have to make it to fall in the face of that kind of predator densities? Last seasons deer numbers were better than the year before but no where near what I would consider average.
 

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I'm in 3f2. How does it compute that last year they said the numbers were so low that they offered to refund your money for your tag if you were drawn and at the same time sell over the counter extra doe tags?
I question this as well. If I remember correctly, there was like 450-500? left over tags. Any doe and whitetail buck tags. It may have been more.
 

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Talk to someone in Montana and deer numbers are horrible all the nr coming and shooting the 3 year old Mule deer and elk grounds are crowded and over run with grizzlies and wolves . Wyoming same thing . Idaho same thing. Funny you get the same story from every states residents.
 


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I dont think you
. Whoever came up with that plan was a moron. If I sold most of my cows and only had bulls around it wouldn’t make much sense would it to complain I wasn’t getting as many calves. You don’t get rid of the factory.
Randy Kreil that SOB. Then he had the gull to bitch at old short on fishingbuddy for calling him out on it especially when the numbers dropped.
 

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This is the reason I don't visit this site much anymore. You'd think this was a site for ND outdoor conversation. The reality is its a site for old men bitching about everything else. Almost none of you actually contributes something useful to a conversation.
and you fit in with your comments . . .
 


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I predict I will have 19 muzzloader preference points going into 2027.
Our whitetail numbers are abysmal in western ND. Wish they'd at least shut down doe season in our unit.
 

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I'm in 3f2. How does it compute that last year they said the numbers were so low that they offered to refund your money for your tag if you were drawn and at the same time sell over the counter extra doe tags?
NDGaF loves to kill dem does. Helps the herd recover! 🤨
 

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I agree with Bacon. I have been deer hunting for almost 50 years now and have seen the populations before crp, with crp, and after alot of crp has come out. At least in my area I don't think crp has quite the impact alot of you think it does. Winters are the biggest factor and coyotes the other. Aside from the big die off of whitetails from the midgets lol about 5 or 6 years ago I don't notice huge swings in deer populations back and forth. Since I have been hunting the fall of 24 was the least amount of deer at deer season in my lifetime. That winter I personally know of over 50 coyotes that were taken in my small general area. Those are just the ones I know of that were taken Im sure there were more. How much meat does it take to feed 50 coyotes every day 365 days a year? What chance does a fawn have to make it to fall in the face of that kind of predator densities? Last seasons deer numbers were better than the year before but no where near what I would consider average.
Deer populations were up going into the winter so the were the coyotes. NDGaF didnt even give it thought to cut tags after the devastating 2022-23 winter. F'⁵⁴ìck>ng pathetic management imo
 


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Here’s the deal though. Everyone is blaming the habitat thing as the main reason for low deer numbers. While that is a factor, hard winters probably kill way more deer than hunters. Doesn’t matter how much crp there is. When we get a nasty winter deer will be dead. I’m talking lots of snow and below zero for weeks at a time. We have had a couple pretty mild winters in a row. I’m guessing there will be more deer around this year in most of the state.

Crp in a bad winter does nothing cause whatever cover there is will be level with snow. The other thing is a water source. Deer will congregate in areas they can access water. We had probably 20+ deer in the yard till the middle of January. Then they all left. They had plenty of cover and food but no access to water.
Nobody can objectively look @ deer seasons pre-‘86, ‘86-‘08, and post’ 08 and believe that CRP doesn’t have an ENORMOUS effect on deer populations. “Habitat” however, is much more than just CRP. Tree-rows and farmsteads (inhabited or not), cattails, and even pastures with a few patches of buckbrush are all habitat. Rivers, creeks, springs, birdbaths, stock ponds, windmill powered ta nks, winter cattle waterers, and seeps are all water sources deer will travel to find.

No argument that tough winters can make an enormous number of critter-cycles. That said, any of the habitats I named above will allow more to survive than a harvested soybean field.
The other big reason for low deer in my opinion was the massive number of doe permits that were given out several years ago. Whoever came up with that plan was a moron. If I sold most of my cows and only had bulls around it wouldn’t make much sense would it to complain I wasn’t getting as many calves. You don’t get rid of the factory.
No argument that the big numbers of die tags went on for too long as the habitat was going away.
 

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Oh I remember all those years. I also remember a few of those years, especially 96-97 when the only way anything survived was in farmer yards. Or in towns or anywhere else they could find something to eat. Because everything was buried in 4 ft of snow.

The question is what are you gonna do to help wildlife. I can say I have probably done more than most of you on here combined. While you guys plant your 2 acre food plot thinking you’re doing any good. Maybe that is why I have never seen a decline in deer around here.

But, it’s easier to blame the guy that’s out here the whole year seeing what happens. Everyone is an expert when they see the land 2 weeks a year
 

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Sure, CRP isn't the whole enchilada, but it's hard to argue why deer numbers peaked in the early-mid 2000s when CRP was at its peak as well. Certainly we have lost lots of tree rows and native prairie along the way and all of this adds up to a lack of all habitat that just makes it impossible for the population to rebound in many areas.
 

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One thing no one admits with crp is It made many small farmers move off the land and transferred everything to the larger farmers. Many families put their farm in crp and chased the kids off the farm. Then when those acres came out they were absorbed by larger and larger farmers. And I will tell you the big guys could care less about wildlife.
 


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