Public land transfer bill

[Fester]

No. I don’t support the boat ramp amphitheater project. If you had any reading comprehension, you’d see that Brockw didn’t either. He coordinated a meeting with between the city, developers and the public so fishermen at least had a chance to voice concern. The project was already moving forward so he is advocating for a new ramp so there is still access. If you had any amount of reading comprehension you’d see that the conversation moved past you while you keep accusing Brockw of taking grant money even though he has no financial stake in it at all.

I’ll play your game. Judging by your response you must be a liberal since you support the government taking control of more land so they can raise money for themselves by pumping oil on trust acres.

Pretty sure this was talked about and pretty sure he said he was going to apply for grant money to create a boat ramp..I do not support this. I also do not support the amphitheater bullshit. So is Brock saying he isn't going to apply for the grant money? Would you still support him if he was applying for grant money? Yes by the sounds of it I am a liberal..I believe in no grant money or pet projects, people or companies having to pay a tax for other peoples pet projects. I don't believe in govt land grabs....sounds liberal to me. I love when people call themselves republicans...sometimes it reminds me of Liz chenney.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

From BHA:

Sponsored by Sen. Hoeven (R-ND) and Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-ND), along with Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND) as a cosponsor, the entire North Dakota congressional delegation is seeking to pass legislation that would facilitate the transfer of your federal public lands to the state of North Dakota.

The North Dakota Trust Lands Completion Act would allow the State to relinquish broad swaths of state trust lands inside Tribal reservation boundaries in exchange federal public lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). As a result, those state trust lands would then be held in trust by the Department of the Interior on behalf of the Tribes. The federal public lands granted to the State in exchange would become state trust lands, by law managed to generate revenue through development. No action would be taken to offset the loss of these BLM lands to the public, resulting in a loss of access.

Once transferred, state trust lands can be closed by lessees, meaning that tens of thousands of acres of land that has always been open to public hunters could now be closed. The State manages trust lands solely for profit, not for multiple use, and North Dakota could develop prime hunting and fishing habitat and/or close state lands to public entry entirely. Once federal public lands are transferred to the state, hunters and anglers lose.

This is harder to swallow in North Dakota, where sportsmen and women already have limited options to hunt public lands. There are only 58,000 surface acres of BLM lands in the entire state, and since this bill would make approximately 37,000 surface acres of state lands and 186,000 mineral acres within the boundaries of the Tribal reservations eligible for transfer, we could see a significant portion of North Dakota’s federal public lands lands lost in exchange.

Even more worrisome, nowhere in the valuation process is public use or recreational value considered, and the public hunter will be left out of this process completely with no way to oppose transfers or be involved at any level.

The bill also does not specify what federal acres or mineral rights would be targeted for transfer to the state, so the negative impact to North Dakota’s hunters and anglers could be even more outsized depending on the parcels and their appraised valuation. At this point, North Dakota hunters don’t even know which public lands stand to be lost.

Join the North Dakota Chapter of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers in speaking up to oppose this misguided legislation and ask that, at the very least, safeguards be added that protect the public’s interest in our public lands.

Solely for profit......well that piqued my interest.

https://www.land.nd.gov/sites/www/f...s/2B - 07 - July 2024 Financial Dashboard.pdf

That's a butt load of money.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Yea this is some massive bullshit…… someone has some mineral money in the headlights and could care less about the public. They’ll try to sell it for to us as money for “property tax buydowns” which to date we clearly know how big a priority that is to anyone at the state level. They could give 2 shits about the surface rights either. Pretty glaringly obvious what this deal is all about. This is the buddy club in operation in full public display ladies and gentlemen. Like I said before Brock, this is the fight to put your time into at this point. I disagree with other stances you or BHA may have but this one I can get fully behind you fighting hard for.

 

[bravo]

Pretty sure this was talked about and pretty sure he said he was going to apply for grant money to create a boat ramp..I do not support this. I also do not support the amphitheater bullshit. So is Brock saying he isn't going to apply for the grant money? Would you still support him if he was applying for grant money? Yes by the sounds of it I am a liberal..I believe in no grant money or pet projects, people or companies having to pay a tax for other peoples pet projects. I don't believe in govt land grabs....sounds liberal to me. I love when people call themselves republicans...sometimes it reminds me of Liz chenney.

I read back on that thread. Unless I missed it, you solely came to that conclusion that Brockw was applying For a grant on post #199. It was clearly stated that his involvement was getting public input by organizing the meeting. Nobody in the entire thread was supporting the boat ramp going away for an amphitheater. So no, I wouldn’t not support Brockw applying for grant money for a amphitheater either. I’m done with you,but go ahead and keep playing no one is more republican than me on the internet and just be glad that there are guys out there doing the actual work.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Democrat or Republican its like cancer in your left lung or cancer in your right lung. Like the old cliché between a rock and a hard place. Love of country is not what they have in common. What they have in common is they are all thieves. I'm sick every election because as a Christian I can't vote for a baby murdering, country hating, white strait male hating Democrat. I have to vote for a constituent despising, money worshipping Republican.

I can only imagine how much money Farm Bureau transfers by lobbyists. When AOC went to DC she said she couldn't afford an apartment. Now it's estimated she is worth 13 million. Where did that money come from? Rich donors, lobbyists, $100k speaking engagements etc. Does anyone go to DC to serve anyone but themselves anymore? Sickening.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Democrat or Republican its like cancer in your left lung or cancer in your right lung. Like the old cliché between a rock and a hard place. Love of country is not what they have in common. What they have in common is they are all thieves. I'm sick every election because as a Christian I can't vote for a baby murdering, country hating, white strait male hating Democrat. I have to vote for a constituent despising, money worshipping Republican.

I can only imagine how much money Farm Bureau transfers by lobbyists. When AOC went to DC she said she couldn't afford an apartment. Now it's estimated she is worth 13 million. Where did that money come from? Rich donors, lobbyists, $100k speaking engagements etc. Does anyone go to DC to serve anyone but themselves anymore? Sickening.

You need some new material.

 

[Average_NDA_Member]

hmmm well i held my tongue long enuf fact is Brockw it don’t matter how much you do to help out hunting we labeled you a lib so take your tax grant moneybags n see yerself out and bravo yer soundin like a lib too there shouldnt be no public land anyway hunting ain’t for everyone you need to have yer own spot it oughta be owned by a farm or ranch so a fella can make a living so go ahead n follow brockw out the door thank you fester n fritz the cat for setting these fools straight I hope armstrong sees this n remembers me on his side

 

[Trip McNeely]

You need some new material.

But he’s not wrong

 

[Average_NDA_Member]

But he’s not wrong

Hmm nope taxes n grants are good when they go to things we like such as ag

 

[BrockW]

Thank you to all that have signed! We’ve had a few hundred people sign this and oppose this with us. Keep up the pressure!

You can also call Armstrongs DC office and RESPECTFULLY inform them that you OPPOSE The North Dakota Trust lands completion act in its current form! It literally takes 30 seconds!

(202) 225-2611


Action Link in case someone missed it and hasn’t signed.
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/take_action#/389

 

[Trip McNeely]

Hmm nope taxes n grants are good when they go to things we like such as ag

Hey tickleshits…… I Was talking about prairie ghost not being wrong about dems and repubs both sucking ass and pilfering the common man.

 

[PrairieGhost]

You need some new material.

Not when it's the same old same old from the people I'm talking about. If your going to act the same I'm going to have the same critic.

 

[PrairieGhost]

hmmm well i held my tongue long enuf fact is Brockw it don’t matter how much you do to help out hunting we labeled you a lib so take your tax grant moneybags n see yerself out and bravo yer soundin like a lib too there shouldnt be no public land anyway hunting ain’t for everyone you need to have yer own spot it oughta be owned by a farm or ranch so a fella can make a living so go ahead n follow brockw out the door thank you fester n fritz the cat for setting these fools straight I hope armstrong sees this n remembers me on his side

Wanting all the handouts for ag isn't conservative it's socialist redistribution of wealth.

You need more land so you can grow more corn so you can drive the price down further with the surplus destroying demand. Of course you can always backstab America and sell to our enemies like China.

 

[BrockW]

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2024/12/26/b...cydzGttgDGVgkGCZEg_aem_m0RJhK7GRkOtaq_S7W687Q

 

[gonefshn]

So less land to hunt? Seems right now we can hunt state land on a Rez with our state license. We can also hunt most federal lands. This exchange seems to me to remove those state blocks within a Rez for land we already get to hunt. From a money making end it might be a wash for the state, but doesn’t seem to me to be a win for sportsmen. Or am I missing something?

 

[Obi-Wan]

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2024/12/26/b...cydzGttgDGVgkGCZEg_aem_m0RJhK7GRkOtaq_S7W687Q

Hoeven said it’s supported by our state and all the tribes within our state.

Of course the tribes support it they get the land and minerals and give nothing in exchange. win win for the tribe while the state may take it in the shorts with the land given in exchange.

 

[Obi-Wan]

So less land to hunt? Seems right now we can hunt state land on a Rez with our state license. We can also hunt most federal lands. This exchange seems to me to remove those state blocks within a Rez for land we already get to hunt. From a money making end it might be a wash for the state, but doesn’t seem to me to be a win for sportsmen. Or am I missing something?

Sportsmen and the state are getting fucked on this as most likely the state gives up land with oil in exchange for shit land without oil

 

[Lycanthrope]

why would the state support giving up good land for bad land? Something isnt adding up, and when that happens, you know some politicians or rich fuckers are making money...

 

[Rowdie]

When on the rez just hunt.

 

[eyexer]

When the no trespass bill passed you saw what politicians think of sportsmen. Why does this surprise anybody